Zach Lowe mentions possibility of Utah blowing it up at deadline

[Csfan1984]

Well a few on here know I agree Utah could blow it up. The thing some are missing is the Jazz have under performed with their core each year and are about to be again in lottery. So lets not make it as if that group must be kept together. The Jazz also despite cap space won't get any impact FA to go there as everyone will have cap space. It's harder for them to get guys than even for the C's. So probably no playoffs next year either. If Wolves or Pelicans land top five picks you can pencil them ahead of Jazz next year in standings or come 2018. Basically the Jazz will be going backwards. And last but not least is dealing at high points Hayward and Favors stock my not get any higher so if you can secure a good deal right now and tank for Simmons and Lab via multiple picks you may want to take that shot. Favors and company haven't got you to playoffs yet why think it will change with all the teams in the west looking to be in better future positions.

[ssspence]

I think I would trade the Nets pick for Favors or Hayward if it was top two or top 3 protected. I doubt anyone outside of Ingram, Simmons or potentially Bender will be better than either of those two.

I see a deal like this as being considerably more likely in the offseason though.

just curious, but how exactly does this work? i mean, if the nets draft pick falls to #3 let's say, then what? you cant roll it over to next year like your own picks. what is plan B for utah should the 2016 net pick not work out?

That's for Boston and Utah to negotiate.

it's actually not. i believe i read that you can't protect an already traded pick any further than it's already protected.

[saltlover]

I would love Hayward. Only 25 and signed through the 18 season.

Player option for that last season, which he will almost certainly decline.

[KeepRondo]

RJ, J Young, Rozier, Mavs pick, and our pick for Favors.

[Evantime34]

I think I would trade the Nets pick for Favors or Hayward if it was top two or top 3 protected. I doubt anyone outside of Ingram, Simmons or potentially Bender will be better than either of those two.

I see a deal like this as being considerably more likely in the offseason though.

just curious, but how exactly does this work? i mean, if the nets draft pick falls to #3 let's say, then what? you cant roll it over to next year like your own picks. what is plan B for utah should the 2016 net pick not work out?

That's for Boston and Utah to negotiate.

it's actually not. i believe i read that you can't protect an already traded pick any further than it's already protected.

Through further investigation I realized that we can't put protections on a pick traded to us. TP for pointing that out.

I don't see a deal happening until the offseason anyway. After the draft lottery we will know what spot we will be picking with the Nets pick and thus won't need to protect it.

[Csfan1984]

I'd say it would not be Smart but
AB, Sully, KO, Lee all the 2016 1st and C's 2018 1st for Favors and Hayward. They still have Exum so they should pass on Smart. Lyles is a ways away so right now KO works great next to Gobert for spacing.
Burke, AB, Hood, KO, Gobert finish out year as starters but you end up 6-9 in standings. With that pick and the Nets pick that is a huge shot at Ingram and Simmons.

[moiso]

Not sure why Utah would want to blow it up. Plenty of cap space coming up, their whole core, save Burks, are on team friendly contracts.

I'm not buying what Lowe is selling until I actually see it with my own eyes.

If Utah wants to commit the mistake of blowing it up, then come to papa.

Yeah, Utah blew it up for years.  They have some nice pieces now and Exum will be back next year.  They definitely shouldn't panic.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think I would trade the Nets pick for Favors or Hayward if it was top two or top 3 protected. I doubt anyone outside of Ingram, Simmons or potentially Bender will be better than either of those two.

I see a deal like this as being considerably more likely in the offseason though.

just curious, but how exactly does this work? i mean, if the nets draft pick falls to #3 let's say, then what? you cant roll it over to next year like your own picks. what is plan B for utah should the 2016 net pick not work out?

That's for Boston and Utah to negotiate.

it's actually not. i believe i read that you can't protect an already traded pick any further than it's already protected.

Through further investigation I realized that we can't put protections on a pick traded to us. TP for pointing that out.

I don't see a deal happening until the offseason anyway. After the draft lottery we will know what spot we will be picking with the Nets pick and thus won't need to protect it.

Where are you finding this info as I'd want to read it myself. Thanks.

[saltlover]

I think I would trade the Nets pick for Favors or Hayward if it was top two or top 3 protected. I doubt anyone outside of Ingram, Simmons or potentially Bender will be better than either of those two.

I see a deal like this as being considerably more likely in the offseason though.

just curious, but how exactly does this work? i mean, if the nets draft pick falls to #3 let's say, then what? you cant roll it over to next year like your own picks. what is plan B for utah should the 2016 net pick not work out?

That's for Boston and Utah to negotiate.

it's actually not. i believe i read that you can't protect an already traded pick any further than it's already protected.

Through further investigation I realized that we can't put protections on a pick traded to us. TP for pointing that out.

I don't see a deal happening until the offseason anyway. After the draft lottery we will know what spot we will be picking with the Nets pick and thus won't need to protect it.

Do you have a source on that? Not doubting you -- I've heard it before, but never seen it written (or at least never comprehended it that way if I've seen it.)

[slamtheking]

Favors has only played 27 of 44 games.
Gobert has only played 24 of 44 games.

That is why they are where they are in the standings. Their record would be much much better if those two guys hadn't of missed so games.

And all this with one of the worst starting backcourts in the league.

Hayward, Favors and Gobert are keepers. It beggars belief that Utah would blow it up and move one of those players. They are the foundation to a very good Utah team. Now they gotta go out and fix that backcourt.

agreed - with Exum also on board for next year, it seems foolishly premature to break up that 'core' this year.  Lyles seems pretty solid so far - that's a very nice core with a chance to add another good prospect in this draft -- all the more reason to sit tight in Utah for another year.

move some of the other lesser players -- that I could understand. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think I would trade the Nets pick for Favors or Hayward if it was top two or top 3 protected. I doubt anyone outside of Ingram, Simmons or potentially Bender will be better than either of those two.

I see a deal like this as being considerably more likely in the offseason though.

just curious, but how exactly does this work? i mean, if the nets draft pick falls to #3 let's say, then what? you cant roll it over to next year like your own picks. what is plan B for utah should the 2016 net pick not work out?

That's for Boston and Utah to negotiate.

it's actually not. i believe i read that you can't protect an already traded pick any further than it's already protected.

Through further investigation I realized that we can't put protections on a pick traded to us. TP for pointing that out.

I don't see a deal happening until the offseason anyway. After the draft lottery we will know what spot we will be picking with the Nets pick and thus won't need to protect it.

Do you have a source on that? Not doubting you -- I've heard it before, but never seen it written (or at least never comprehended it that way if I've seen it.)

I'm on the same boat as you saltlover. Like I can easily envision protecting it, and if it doesn't convey then maybe Boston sends their own. Something along those lines. Would love to see some concrete evidence on this.

[KeepRondo]

Here's a crazy thought. If this was possible, I would say no to this trade:

Olynyk and Brad Stevens for Favors, Hayward and Exum.

Hopefully we get another 10 years of Stevens coaching the Cs. Never would had valued a coach this high before until we got Stevens.

[aingeforthree]

Here's a crazy thought. If this was possible, I would say no to this trade:

Olynyk and Brad Stevens for Favors, Hayward and Exum.

Hopefully we get another 10 years of Stevens coaching the Cs. Never would had valued a coach this high before until we got Stevens.

Ainge is 2 for 2 in coaches, IMO.  Even when everyone on here & message boards around shunned him when O'Brien got butt hurt.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Here's a crazy thought. If this was possible, I would say no to this trade:

Olynyk and Brad Stevens for Favors, Hayward and Exum.

Hopefully we get another 10 years of Stevens coaching the Cs. Never would had valued a coach this high before until we got Stevens.

What? I'd do that trade in a heartbeat, hire Thibs afterwards.

[KeepRondo]

Here's a crazy thought. If this was possible, I would say no to this trade:

Olynyk and Brad Stevens for Favors, Hayward and Exum.

Hopefully we get another 10 years of Stevens coaching the Cs. Never would had valued a coach this high before until we got Stevens.

What? I'd do that trade in a heartbeat, hire Thibs afterwards.

Interesting idea.

I am willing to at least consider that.

TP