Zach Lowe mentions possibility of Utah blowing it up at deadline

[i believe in brad]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14647616/the-jazz-hope-enough-money-their-rebuilding-plan-work

In his article this morning - Lowe discusses Utah at length.  Talks about how they were supposed to take a step forward but have actually regressed and how that could have an effect on what they decide to do with all their young guys.

Even though he discounts the idea's potential a few paragraphs later, he does bring up the possibility of trading Hayward* and/or Favors at the deadline, and of course mentions Boston as a potential partner in a Hayward deal.

His idea was centered around the Nets 2016 pick, which is too rich at this point for Hayward IMO.  So my question is this: IF Hayward was dangled, is there any way we could keep Nets '16 but send a poo-poo platter of other picks centered around Nets '17 swap or Nets '18 instead?  I doubt it but want to hear what other people think.

*I understand everyone bats around the same ~8-10 guys for a potential C's trade every couple of months, but when a smart NBA mind like Lowe throws the idea out there I like to discuss.

[Eddie20]

I would love Hayward. Only 25 and signed through the 18 season.

[Evantime34]

I think I would trade the Nets pick for Favors or Hayward if it was top two or top 3 protected. I doubt anyone outside of Ingram, Simmons or potentially Bender will be better than either of those two.

I see a deal like this as being considerably more likely in the offseason though.

[Hemingway]

I have no idea how good these guys are but this brings up a great point: we should be talking about what teams might blow it up and who we could get.

[Evantime34]

I have no idea how good these guys are but this brings up a great point: we should be talking about what teams might blow it up and who we could get.

ABSOLUTELY!

One of my favorite things to discuss on Celticsblog are trade rumors so bring on the potential blow it up scenarios!

I would love Hayward. Only 25 and signed through the 18 season.

He has a player option for the 2018 season.

[i believe in brad]

I think I would trade the Nets pick for Favors or Hayward if it was top two or top 3 protected. I doubt anyone outside of Ingram, Simmons or potentially Bender will be better than either of those two.

I see a deal like this as being considerably more likely in the offseason though.

I agree this is more likely in the offseason, especially since Utah is currently only 1 game out of a playoff spot.  They have 8 games leading up to the trade deadline, so I guess if they're abysmal in that stretch and are 4 or more games out it's not impossible to think they pull the trigger on something.

Also strange random coincidence if a trade somehow goes down - 1st game for Utah after the trade deadline is...against the Celts!

[BudweiserCeltic]

Not sure why Utah would want to blow it up. Plenty of cap space coming up, their whole core, save Burks, are on team friendly contracts.

I'm not buying what Lowe is selling until I actually see it with my own eyes.

If Utah wants to commit the mistake of blowing it up, then come to papa.

[Eddie20]

Not sure why Utah would want to blow it up. Plenty of cap space coming up, their whole core, save Burks, are on team friendly contracts.

I'm not buying what Lowe is selling until I actually see it with my own eyes.

If Utah wants to commit the mistake of blowing it up, then come to papa.

Small market team though.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Not sure why Utah would want to blow it up. Plenty of cap space coming up, their whole core, save Burks, are on team friendly contracts.

I'm not buying what Lowe is selling until I actually see it with my own eyes.

If Utah wants to commit the mistake of blowing it up, then come to papa.

Small market team though.

Again, they're healthy contract wise, their core is on team friendly contracts, that's exactly where you want to be as a small market team.

Blowing it up is not the answer they're seeking.

[Evantime34]

Not sure why Utah would want to blow it up. Plenty of cap space coming up, their whole core, save Burks, are on team friendly contracts.

I'm not buying what Lowe is selling until I actually see it with my own eyes.

If Utah wants to commit the mistake of blowing it up, then come to papa.

Utah has at least seven players 25 or younger it might consider part of its core. That core hasn't produced a single winning season, but each member of it is appealing enough that Utah won't be able to afford all of them once their next contracts kick in. Hayward can already hit free agency after next season, just as the cap skyrockets to a record $108 million, and he'll demand a max contract. Gobert can start extension talks after this season, and if he finishes strong, he will enter negotiations confident a max offer awaits on the other end. Favors and Hood are further from free agency, but the Jazz have to project mammoth raises for both -- and possibly a third max deal for Favors, meaning three players that have won basically nothing could suck up 85 percent of Utah's cap. They have a chasm at point guard that Exum might not be ready to fill. Utah's payroll could crack $120 million before factoring in any outside free agents, ritzy territory for a small-market franchise with little history of paying the luxury tax.

Utah's fans might have a hard time digesting another step back in the name of patience, but what exactly would the Jazz be stepping back from? A sub.-500 team with only one stretch of prolonged winning on its resume?

The section of the article explaining his reasoning.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14647616/the-jazz-hope-enough-money-their-rebuilding-plan-work

[manl_lui]

how much would it take to get Gobert or Hayward? without touching Smart, Crowder or IT

[SHAQATTACK]

I'd say it's pretty slim they would .

[Eddie20]

how much would it take to get Gobert or Hayward? without touching Smart, Crowder or IT

I would give up the Nets pick this year for Gobert. He compliments our team perfectly and would arguably make us the best defensive team in the league, with the way our perimeter guys defend.

[i believe in brad]

Not sure why Utah would want to blow it up. Plenty of cap space coming up, their whole core, save Burks, are on team friendly contracts.

I'm not buying what Lowe is selling until I actually see it with my own eyes.

If Utah wants to commit the mistake of blowing it up, then come to papa.

Small market team though.

Again, they're healthy contract wise, their core is on team friendly contracts, that's exactly where you want to be as a small market team.

Blowing it up is not the answer they're seeking.

I guess I shouldn't have phrased it as "blowing it up".  It's more like trading 1 possibly 2 of the younger guys who will be getting a major raise in the near future.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Not sure why Utah would want to blow it up. Plenty of cap space coming up, their whole core, save Burks, are on team friendly contracts.

I'm not buying what Lowe is selling until I actually see it with my own eyes.

If Utah wants to commit the mistake of blowing it up, then come to papa.

This is sort of what I was thinking. Gobert, Hayward, and Favors seem like guys I'd want to hang on to.