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Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2016, 02:36:29 AM »

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He should have checked into CB a few years ago when he got the deal, he would have left thinking he got away with larceny over.

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2016, 03:14:54 AM »

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I reckon he is now worth a bit more than the contract he is on now (even if he was not when he actually signed it) and if he keeps adding to his game you can see him landing Amir Johnson type contracts well into his 30s, one chis current deal runs out

Avery Bradley is a poster child for basketball players who keep working onn their game.
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Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2016, 09:23:45 AM »

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When Bradley signed the deal, the general consensus was it was too much present day but would make more sense when the new cap figures kicked in. Unless he actually told Washburn he regrets signing the deal, it sounds like speculation. It could be he thinks his agent is taking too large a cut or maybe didn't handle his money properly.  Who knows?

It could also be that he felt he was missing out on endorsement opportunities.  There's more to being an agent than negotiating a single contract every four years.

Are you kidding me, the ONLY thing it could be is he is mad about his contract, he fired the agent directly after signing it... it's not like it's been about 2 years. I can't believe AB keeps whining to the media, just shut up and play!

Endorsements matter too.  Virtually every NBA player gets money for wearing this shoe or that piece of clothing.  He might not be happy with the contract, but there's nothing that can be done about that for 18 months at the earliest.  There are other things that can be negotiated earlier, potentially

But really, the player who should be really upset about his contract is IT.

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2016, 10:09:57 AM »

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Agents are basically people in your employ who are supposed to get you the best contract situation possible. Firing your agent because your unhappy with the contract he got you and hiring a new one to get a better one the next time your up is very different from storming into Ainge's office and saying "I want a new contract, this one is BS! I'm so underpaid!" Assuming I'm reading this story correctly, that's not what happened.

I don't think some of us are seeing that distinction.

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2016, 10:16:29 AM »

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He should have checked into CB a few years ago when he got the deal, he would have left thinking he got away with larceny over.

Yeah, it wasn't just us! Practically every basketball writer called it an overpay and said we were bidding against ourselves.

This is the way these cycles go. I'm glad Bradley's not happy with his contract; it means he sees himself as better than a mid-tier guard. If he keeps shooting and playing hard like he has been, I hope that in two years he forces management to see him as irreplaceable and worth all-star money.

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« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2016, 10:18:15 AM »

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I'd be unhappy about it too if I were him. But t doesn't hurt us. He can't get out of it now no matter what team he is on. If I remember correctly most of this forum was mad about that deal at the time.

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« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2016, 10:24:22 AM »

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Agents are basically people in your employ who are supposed to get you the best contract situation possible. Firing your agent because your unhappy with the contract he got you and hiring a new one to get a better one the next time your up is very different from storming into Ainge's office and saying "I want a new contract, this one is BS! I'm so underpaid!" Assuming I'm reading this story correctly, that's not what happened.

I don't think some of us are seeing that distinction.
Agents do more than negotiate contracts. Like any business relationship you have to weigh many factors before making changes.  As I said, this is only a story if Bradley said something to Washburn about the contract.  If its Washburn speculating then its total b.s. 

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2016, 02:11:18 PM »

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I remember how many posters were very unhappy with the deal at the time.  Oh well for Avery.  I agree he's slightly overplayed his contract based on comps but you can't have it both ways.  A team can't complain about a player that does not live up to a contract so won't work the other way around.

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2016, 02:41:28 PM »

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Maybe he argued for a trade kicker and agent settled for not having one?

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2016, 02:59:05 PM »

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The best part: People think AB's deal is a bargain, but Crowder gets paid less per year. Danny Ainge is a magician. He really is.

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« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2016, 03:19:58 PM »

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Idc I'd honestly be happy if we traded him as long as we got a decent SG in return. Hes my least favorite celtic on the team. He always chokes in crunch time, he struggles to guard bigger 2's, he cannot pass at all, and I'm pretty sure Nerlens Noel can handle the ball better than him. He's also complaining about his contract when Crowder is playing 2x better than him(except for last 2 games) and is making less than him.

Your level of hate for Avery is way too much.  He is one of our best players, and our best outside shooter, which we have a dearth of. He is still a great defender, including of guards bigger than him.

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2016, 03:32:22 PM »

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The best part: People think AB's deal is a bargain, but Crowder gets paid less per year. Danny Ainge is a magician. He really is.
Well yeah, he also signed Mark Blount. You win some, you lose some. Most people prefer to remember just one side of this coin.
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« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2016, 03:52:34 PM »

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The best part: People think AB's deal is a bargain, but Crowder gets paid less per year. Danny Ainge is a magician. He really is.
Well yeah, he also signed Mark Blount. You win some, you lose some. Most people prefer to remember just one side of this coin.

Wow, if you have to reach back 10 years to knock Danny, he is doing even better than I thought.

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2016, 04:26:14 PM »

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Agents are basically people in your employ who are supposed to get you the best contract situation possible. Firing your agent because your unhappy with the contract he got you and hiring a new one to get a better one the next time your up is very different from storming into Ainge's office and saying "I want a new contract, this one is BS! I'm so underpaid!" Assuming I'm reading this story correctly, that's not what happened.

I don't think some of us are seeing that distinction.
Agents do more than negotiate contracts. Like any business relationship you have to weigh many factors before making changes.  As I said, this is only a story if Bradley said something to Washburn about the contract.  If its Washburn speculating then its total b.s.

Well, if Bradley approached Washburn out of the blue to say "I'm unhappy with my deal", yeah that's a bigger deal. But if he just changed agents and Washburn is either speculating or getting it from one of the old or new agents that he's unhappy with his contract, I don't see what the big deal is?

I said at the time that it was a pretty fair, solid contract and over time it's become even better than that. One of three guys we have (along with Thomas and Crowder) who are on really good deals for their levels of production. He's right that he deserves more. Put him on the Cavs in the finals last year and maybe that series goes to 7 or maybe the even win. He's worth at least 10 in the current market. So, considering some guys agents saw that coming and took shorter deals or set-up options etc, he feels like his agent didn't get him the best possible deal. So he got rid of him and a new one. Wouldn't you if you felt like your agent hadn't done a good enough job for you the last time around?

I mean, it's not like he walked into Danny's office and said "Hey! I'm underpaid and unhappy with my contract! Give me more money or trade me!" And some people are acting like he did something like that. It's not like he's causing problems in the locker room or anything, he's actually one of the most important team leaders. If you were an NBA player, you'd want to maximize your earning potential too, and if your current agent couldn't get that done for you, what's wrong with hiring a new one? To me I guess, I don't see a problem with him being upset about not getting as much money as he could. So I don't see a problem with him hiring a new agent to try and get the best deal the next time around. Unless he starts causing problems in the locker room, it's really a non issue, IMO.

Re: Avery Bradley unhappy with contract...
« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2016, 04:35:22 PM »

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The best part: People think AB's deal is a bargain, but Crowder gets paid less per year. Danny Ainge is a magician. He really is.
Well yeah, he also signed Mark Blount. You win some, you lose some. Most people prefer to remember just one side of this coin.

Wow, if you have to reach back 10 years to knock Danny, he is doing even better than I thought.
That's the first example that came to mind, and the most egregious. Ainge's player evaluation record, however, is far from impeccable.

He was too cap-strapped in the Pierce-Allen-Garnett era to make impactful bad signings, but plenty of his pickups didn't work out (Murphy, Pollard, J O'Neal, Marbury, Milicic to name a  few FAs, Telfair, Raef, and Green from trade acquisitions).
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