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Kevin Love Trade Idea
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:55:28 PM »

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It looks like the Cavs trading K Love really could be a possibility, and while I don't think he is a superstar, he could really help this team. The cavs really only need a wing defender, and unfortunately crowder would be perfect for them. I don't see them turning down an offer of Crowder and Sully for Love, but the question is would the celtics? Then at the draft, we use the brooklyn pick to take Ingram and if it's not top 2, we could try to move up using Smart. Then we package the Mavs pick and our pick, and move up and take Poeltl. Future lineup:

IT
AB
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Love
Poeltl
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Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2016, 04:03:31 PM »

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No, Crowder and Sully is too much for Love.  I like him but would not give up any of Smart, Sully, KO, IT or Crowder.

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2016, 04:47:13 PM »

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Trading Crowder to the team that would be our biggest competition (I mean, already is technically) in this conference as we consummate a win-now move for Love is silly. We'd only be making CLE better in my opinion, which is somewhat biased since I've never thought the Love trade was good for them. CLE gets rid of someone that isn't exactly the fit they want for someone that helps them tremendously? Meanwhile, we lose that tremendously helpful player and gain someone that may/may not actually help us? No thank you.

If you REALLY want Love then you have to think along these lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=huylcaq

CLE has been trending big while the league trends small. Taking Lee would give them even more cap flexibility next year (I know, I know, everyone will have cap space)/the ability to absorb a larger contract during the summer when they let him walk. They likely would just bench him or buy him out, thereby eliminating some of the log jam at PF/C.

Love would be a great small ball 5 if CLE really wanted to try something interesting, so they might as well keep him. Super small sample size of success at the 2012 Olympics, but worth a shot.
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Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2016, 05:17:44 PM »

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Trading Crowder to the team that would be our biggest competition (I mean, already is technically) in this conference as we consummate a win-now move for Love is silly. We'd only be making CLE better in my opinion, which is somewhat biased since I've never thought the Love trade was good for them. CLE gets rid of someone that isn't exactly the fit they want for someone that helps them tremendously? Meanwhile, we lose that tremendously helpful player and gain someone that may/may not actually help us? No thank you.

If you REALLY want Love then you have to think along these lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=huylcaq

CLE has been trending big while the league trends small. Taking Lee would give them even more cap flexibility next year (I know, I know, everyone will have cap space)/the ability to absorb a larger contract during the summer when they let him walk. They likely would just bench him or buy him out, thereby eliminating some of the log jam at PF/C.

Love would be a great small ball 5 if CLE really wanted to try something interesting, so they might as well keep him. Super small sample size of success at the 2012 Olympics, but worth a shot.
Well AB and David Lee wouldn't be nearly enough to get Love, so that just means we wouldn't get him if you think that is fair value.
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Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2016, 05:38:06 PM »

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I'd definitely make that deal.

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2016, 05:57:36 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zhaz7sj

We send Amir/Bradley/Sullinger/Zeller/2016 Dallas/2018 Nets/some 2nd rounders (which we have too many)....for Love/Mozgov.

They get Amir to replace Mozgov...Bradley to help defend Curry...Sullinger to push around/box out Green...and Zeller for filler.

Danny gets his "star" player...clears out some front court jam a bit...Still has Crowder and Smart for defense...still has Lee's contract to deal at the deadline (not really a plus-but who knows)...IT is happy...Holds onto K.O....Keeps the 2016 Nets pick...and gets some playing time for Hunter.

You could replace Zeller with Young or Rozier--if Danny wanted to keep a backup center for Mozgov.
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Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2016, 06:53:09 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zhaz7sj

We send Amir/Bradley/Sullinger/Zeller/2016 Dallas/2018 Nets/some 2nd rounders (which we have too many)....for Love/Mozgov.

They get Amir to replace Mozgov...Bradley to help defend Curry...Sullinger to push around/box out Green...and Zeller for filler.

Danny gets his "star" player...clears out some front court jam a bit...Still has Crowder and Smart for defense...still has Lee's contract to deal at the deadline (not really a plus-but who knows)...IT is happy...Holds onto K.O....Keeps the 2016 Nets pick...and gets some playing time for Hunter.

You could replace Zeller with Young or Rozier--if Danny wanted to keep a backup center for Mozgov.
You can't gut the team and expect Love to bring you a championship. He is not that elite.

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2016, 08:30:46 AM »

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They're issuing denials to the rumor that they are trying to trade Love. In other words, he's definitely available:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14647779/cleveland-cavaliers-not-looking-trade-kevin-love-gm-says

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Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2016, 08:33:31 AM »

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Love makes 3 times what Crowder does. 3x.

Now, when push comes to shove, who is the more effective, dependable player?

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Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2016, 08:35:22 AM »

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most telling part of the story....

"We think very highly of Kevin, and we believe Kevin thinks very highly of this situation," Griffin said. "But I can also tell you that we have been very clear from the beginning that there's no such thing as untouchables.

"You're either all the way in or all the way out in this process, and we believe our guys are all the way in. If it remains that way, then we are going to try and augment the group at the bottom and try to get some additional depth, and that's what we'll do. We're not going to be afraid to do what needs to be done if something more significant comes along."

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2016, 08:57:39 AM »

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Love makes 3 times what Crowder does. 3x.

Now, when push comes to shove, who is the more effective, dependable player?
Love is not better on D.
And Crowder still has room to grow on the Offense.
Not to mention leadership and attitude.

I will consider a trade for Love but not Crowder. 

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2016, 09:35:08 AM »

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most telling part of the story....

"We think very highly of Kevin, and we believe Kevin thinks very highly of this situation," Griffin said. "But I can also tell you that we have been very clear from the beginning that there's no such thing as untouchables.

"You're either all the way in or all the way out in this process, and we believe our guys are all the way in. If it remains that way, then we are going to try and augment the group at the bottom and try to get some additional depth, and that's what we'll do. We're not going to be afraid to do what needs to be done if something more significant comes along."

"There's no such thing as untouchables" - Unless your name is LeBron James...

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2016, 09:57:39 AM »

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Trading Crowder to the team that would be our biggest competition (I mean, already is technically) in this conference as we consummate a win-now move for Love is silly. We'd only be making CLE better in my opinion, which is somewhat biased since I've never thought the Love trade was good for them. CLE gets rid of someone that isn't exactly the fit they want for someone that helps them tremendously? Meanwhile, we lose that tremendously helpful player and gain someone that may/may not actually help us? No thank you.

If you REALLY want Love then you have to think along these lines: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=huylcaq

CLE has been trending big while the league trends small. Taking Lee would give them even more cap flexibility next year (I know, I know, everyone will have cap space)/the ability to absorb a larger contract during the summer when they let him walk. They likely would just bench him or buy him out, thereby eliminating some of the log jam at PF/C.

Love would be a great small ball 5 if CLE really wanted to try something interesting, so they might as well keep him. Super small sample size of success at the 2012 Olympics, but worth a shot.

Spot on. If we make a trade to contend, don't make your biggest rival even stronger!

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2016, 10:53:57 AM »

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I feel like getting Phoenix involved is the best idea.

To Boston: Love

To Cleveland: Chandler, Morris, 2016 Dallas 1st, extra 2nd round picks

To Phoenix: Lee, Sullinger, Rozier, 2016 Boston 1st, 2016 Philly 2nd, extra 2nd round picks

Boston gets Love and keeps its defense intact to help hide his deficiencies.

Cleveland sheds Love, gets way tougher with Morris and Chandler. Morris replaces Love's spot up shooting with less need to have the ball in his hands. Chandler can back up Mozgov and replace Varejao.

Phoenix is back to rebuilding, they need to shed the Chandler contract. They get a fat expiring, young players, and picks. Which considering how much of a head case Morris is, this seems like overpay.

Re: Kevin Love Trade Idea
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2016, 10:56:17 AM »

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Hard call. I'm too into the Cs to be objective but Crowder seems to just be getting better and better. He' not a go to player but he's not that far off from being a star. He can get you 20 points while playing top notch D.