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Offline KG Living Legend

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 Kind of interesting if a team wasn't sold on Ingram being a superstar. Would you trade all of Danny's hard earned highway robbery stash of picks for what's almost a sure thing and maybe are best chance at landing a superstar.
 If Philly got the number two pick I think Colangelo would make that trade.

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Man, if we swept BKN this season they'd be tied with LA for 2nd worst record. What a shame.

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Kind of interesting if a team wasn't sold on Ingram being a superstar. Would you trade all of Danny's hard earned highway robbery stash of picks for what's almost a sure thing and maybe are best chance at landing a superstar.
 If Philly got the number two pick I think Colangelo would make that trade.
Going to say no only if Lab is still available. I think he will be a great NBA PF. Everyone has Lab slipping so at 5 I'd take him. If draft is different then maybe you do the deal. Im sure Brooklyn is very bad again next season maybe not top 5 but a top 10 pick.

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 Jsd, but we didn't so you have to answer if we got the fifth pick this year which is very possible, would you gamble on all the Nets picks for Most likely  Ingram, the closest thing to Durant I've ever seen.

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Kind of interesting if a team wasn't sold on Ingram being a superstar. Would you trade all of Danny's hard earned highway robbery stash of picks for what's almost a sure thing and maybe are best chance at landing a superstar.
 If Philly got the number two pick I think Colangelo would make that trade.
Going to say no only if Lab is still available. I think he will be a great NBA PF. Everyone has Lab slipping so at 5 I'd take him. If draft is different then maybe you do the deal. Im sure Brooklyn is very bad again next season maybe not top 5 but a top 10 pick.


 True, but it would be Boston's big chance to land a true Stud, not a stud like Winslow the #9 overall, we are talking superstud consensus top two pick here, he arguably could end up better than Simmons.
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Kind of interesting if a team wasn't sold on Ingram being a superstar. Would you trade all of Danny's hard earned highway robbery stash of picks for what's almost a sure thing and maybe are best chance at landing a superstar.
 If Philly got the number two pick I think Colangelo would make that trade.
Going to say no only if Lab is still available. I think he will be a great NBA PF. Everyone has Lab slipping so at 5 I'd take him. If draft is different then maybe you do the deal. Im sure Brooklyn is very bad again next season maybe not top 5 but a top 10 pick.


 True, but it would be Boston's big chance to land a true Stud, not a stud like Winslow the #9 overall, we are talking superstud consensus top two pick here, he arguably could end up better than Simmons.
I'd have to be sure in Ingram. And again if the draft went
Simmons
Ingram
Bender
Lab
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That is when you say Brown/Dunn, another very possible top 10 pick and an additional 1st for Ingram? You better be 100% sure you are projecting Ingram right. For that haul you can probably trade it for Harden or Cousins.

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If we landed the #2 pick would you trade it for #5 and the next two laker picks ?  Basically pass on the "next Durant" Brandon Ingram to bet against dangelo Russell, Julius randle and Los Angeles free agency potential?

I think that's basically the reverse. 

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Kind of interesting if a team wasn't sold on Ingram being a superstar. Would you trade all of Danny's hard earned highway robbery stash of picks for what's almost a sure thing and maybe are best chance at landing a superstar.
 If Philly got the number two pick I think Colangelo would make that trade.

TP to KG Living Legend for the interesting question.

I say no because I think that Brooklyn will be very bad the next two years as well.


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Kind of interesting if a team wasn't sold on Ingram being a superstar. Would you trade all of Danny's hard earned highway robbery stash of picks for what's almost a sure thing and maybe are best chance at landing a superstar.
 If Philly got the number two pick I think Colangelo would make that trade.

TP to KG Living Legend for the interesting question.

I say no because I think that Brooklyn will be very bad the next two years as well.

It would kill me to say no, but I think I would have to.  This is really tough.  Good question. 

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Kind of interesting if a team wasn't sold on Ingram being a superstar. Would you trade all of Danny's hard earned highway robbery stash of picks for what's almost a sure thing and maybe are best chance at landing a superstar.
 If Philly got the number two pick I think Colangelo would make that trade.

TP on an interesting scenario.

I don't have to think hard about this. The answer is no.

First of all, the 2017 BKYN pick is an option and not another first round pick. The Cs have to give up their 1st and 2nd to do it. So by making that move you not only give up the 2016 and 2018 picks, but you also end up not drafting at all in 2017 (well, we'd have the Minny 2nd rounder but that's it). What happens if this team crashes and burns next year and ends up with a pick even higher than the Brooklyn pick? You'd be in a serious world of hurt. Too risky.

I'm also not willing to put all the eggs in one basket. Sure, the #2 pick might be KD. But he might be Evan Turner.

Finally, the Cs will have 3 picks in the top 20 this year. The BKYN pick should be 5th at worse - and that's with unlucky ping pong balls. The Cs and Dallas picks will be somewhere between 14 to 18 or 20. Plus the team has 5 2nd rounders. I think with all those assets you can move up from 5 to 2 without giving up the future picks. I don't mind that scenario nearly as much because if the Cs bust or the draftee busts, you don't kill the future of the team. Trading future picks is why BKYN is in such bad shape. I'd prefer to learn from their experience and avoid that kind of problem.
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Easy

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Abso-freaking-lutely!!!  The whole point of accumulating all of these assets is to get a stud.  The number 2 pick in this draft is very likely going to be a stud.  Why would you want to wait and hope picks down the line pay off when you can get the stud you need right now??  I'd do if if they got the third pick. 

As LarBrd pointed out though, why on Earth would the other team make the trade??? 

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Everyone favors quality over quantity. Including the team holding the 2nd pick, no matter who it is. So I doubt that all our Nets' picks would get the deal done, especially if the 2016 was the #5 pick.  I don't even know if we could get the deal done if we held the #3 pick, since consensus seems to be that the drop off from 2 to 3 is significant.

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Abso-freaking-lutely!!!  The whole point of accumulating all of these assets is to get a stud.  The number 2 pick in this draft is very likely going to be a stud.  Why would you want to wait and hope picks down the line pay off when you can get the stud you need right now??  I'd do if if they got the third pick. 

As LarBrd pointed out though, why on Earth would the other team make the trade???

2005 #2 Pick: Marvin Williams
2005 #4 Pick: Chris Paul

2006 #2 Pick: LeMarcus Aldredge
2006 #6 Pick: Brandon Roy (think about this pre-injury...Roy was a superstar)

2007 #2 Pick: Kevin Durant
2007...skip this year :)

2008 #2 Pick: Michael Beasley
2008 #4 Pick: Michael Westbrook (#5 was a guy named Kevin Love)

2009 #2 Pick: Hasheem Thabeet
2009 #3 Pick: James Harden (#7 was Steph Curry)

2010 #2 Pick: Evan Turner
2010 #5 Pick: DeMarcus Cousins

2011 #2 Pick: Derrick Williams
2011...the next 3 or 4 guys are about the same as Williams

2012 #2 Pick: MKG
2012 #3 Pick: Bradley Beal

The point being is that it's a crapshoot. Only with KD was the choice really clear and turned out to be right. In other years the choice for #2 seemed clear and yet guys selected right below that #2 spot turned out to be better pros. So why do they make the deal? Because scouts' opinions differ, every teams' needs are different and teams know there's no such thing as a sure thing. Quality is nice when it's proven. When there's a fairly high chance of variability, quantity is a pretty nice thing to have.

Now I wouldn't put it past Danny to make this deal. Why? Because he already has quantity. He can't put 3 1st rounders on this roster. So he *has* to gamble on putting his eggs in one basket. I don't think it will be with future picks though. Danny isn't that dumb. Any move up will be with 2016 picks and players.
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Abso-freaking-lutely!!!  The whole point of accumulating all of these assets is to get a stud.  The number 2 pick in this draft is very likely going to be a stud.  Why would you want to wait and hope picks down the line pay off when you can get the stud you need right now??  I'd do if if they got the third pick. 

As LarBrd pointed out though, why on Earth would the other team make the trade???

2005 #2 Pick: Marvin Williams
2005 #4 Pick: Chris Paul

2006 #2 Pick: LeMarcus Aldredge
2006 #6 Pick: Brandon Roy (think about this pre-injury...Roy was a superstar)

2007 #2 Pick: Kevin Durant
2007...skip this year :)

2008 #2 Pick: Michael Beasley
2008 #4 Pick: Michael Westbrook (#5 was a guy named Kevin Love)

2009 #2 Pick: Hasheem Thabeet
2009 #3 Pick: James Harden (#7 was Steph Curry)

2010 #2 Pick: Evan Turner
2010 #5 Pick: DeMarcus Cousins

2011 #2 Pick: Derrick Williams
2011...the next 3 or 4 guys are about the same as Williams

2012 #2 Pick: MKG
2012 #3 Pick: Bradley Beal

The point being is that it's a crapshoot. Only with KD was the choice really clear and turned out to be right. In other years the choice for #2 seemed clear and yet guys selected right below that #2 spot turned out to be better pros. So why do they make the deal? Because scouts' opinions differ, every teams' needs are different and teams know there's no such thing as a sure thing. Quality is nice when it's proven. When there's a fairly high chance of variability, quantity is a pretty nice thing to have.

Now I wouldn't put it past Danny to make this deal. Why? Because he already has quantity. He can't put 3 1st rounders on this roster. So he *has* to gamble on putting his eggs in one basket. I don't think it will be with future picks though. Danny isn't that dumb. Any move up will be with 2016 picks and players.

Boom...Granath dropped the mike!!