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Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0
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Okay, there's a reason that I'm not an NBA scout, but I just don't get Dragan Bender. He looks great on the perimeter but, in the paint, he looks slow. Having said that, I have no idea who I'd choose after the first two.

Here's the mock draft:

In a new wrinkle for Mock Draft 3.0, we'll be using the ESPN's Basketball Power Index (BPI) projected W-L records to determine the draft order. This should be a more accurate gauge of how the draft will look at the end of the season.

Remember, mock drafts don't determine where a player should go, but rather what each team in the draft would likely do with its pick. If you want a ranking of players, check out our latest Big Board here.

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Nothing is set in stone at this point. Expect this mock draft to fluctuate greatly over the course of the next five months.

Nevertheless, it's our best stab at a full first-round mock draft (assuming every eligible prospect who has yet to state his intentions on the draft declares), after taking into account team needs, based on our discussions with NBA scouts and general managers.

1. Philadelphia 76ers


Ben Simmons
LSU
Freshman
Forward


The 76ers are still on track to have better than a 25 percent chance at Simmons, combining the odds for Philadelphia and Sacramento (Philly can swap picks with the Kings).

Of course, the Sixers' improved play with Ish Smith at point guard might make their fans a little nervous, as Philly looks competitive in almost every game. If the Sixers don't end up with the worst record, the trade for Smith could come back to haunt them.

If the Sixers do win the lottery, Simmons seems like a great pick. Duke forward Brandon Ingram would be tempting because he fits a positional need a little more and brings shooting to the table -- that's Simmons' biggest weakness -- but with several months to go before the draft, Simmons remains firmly in the lead for the No. 1 pick.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 25 percent, 14-68

Watch: Ben Simmons highlights Video

2. Los Angeles Lakers*


Brandon Ingram
Duke
Freshman
Forward


The Lakers are playing better basketball, but thankfully for their fans, it's not good enough to mess with their lottery odds. That's important, because L.A. must send this pick to the 76ers if it falls to fourth or lower in the lottery. Finishing with the second-worst record gives the Lakers a 56 percent chance of keeping the pick.

Simmons would, of course, be a godsend for the Lakers, but Ingram is also a prize and would fit a major need. The long, athletic wing has been terrific on both ends of the floor the last 10 games for Duke. He'd be a major upgrade at the 3. A combo of D'Angelo Russell and Ingram should give the Lakers a serious foundation for the future.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 19.9 percent, 19-63

Watch: Brandon Ingram highlights Video

3. Boston Celtics*


Dragan Bender
Croatia
Age: 18
Forward/center


This Nets' pick is unprotected, meaning the worse Brooklyn plays, the more excited Celtics fans should get. The Nets have won just one of their past 10 games and seem like legitimate contenders to "pass" the Lakers for the second-best lottery odds in the draft.

Bender's starting to get minutes for Maccabi Tel Aviv, but it's mostly his upside that gets general managers excited. He is big and skilled, can guard multiple positions and has shown the ability to stretch the floor lately. I'm not sure he's in the same talent category as Kristaps Porzingis, but for many scouts, he's the other prize in this draft behind Simmons and Ingram.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record (via Nets): 15.6 percent, 23-59

4. Minnesota Timberwolves*


Henry Ellenson
Marquette
Freshman
Forward/center


The Timberwolves are loaded with young talent, but they're struggling to compete with the other elite teams in the West and look destined to land yet another top-five pick. They already have a number of young players they love -- Andrew Wiggins, Karl-Anthony Towns, Zach LaVine, Ricky Rubio and Shabazz Muhammad -- but could still use some help at the 4.

Ellenson is a perfect fit as a big who can rebound and spread the floor. Think of him as a poor man's Kevin Love, to invoke the name of a recent Timberwolves star.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 11.9 percent, 26-56

Watch: Henry Ellenson highlights Video

5. Phoenix Suns


Kris Dunn
Providence
Junior
Guard


The Suns are fading fast now that Eric Bledsoe is out for the season with a torn meniscus. They've won just once in their past 10 games, and if things don't get better, they could challenge both the Lakers and Nets for the second-worst record in the NBA. The Suns already have two point guards -- Bledsoe and Brandon Knight -- but then again, they don't really have one. Both are shooting guards that lack the size to play the 2.

The good news is Dunn brings the floor vision of a lead guy with enough size to guard both backcourt positions. He's not a great shooter and he's a little old, but he's the most dynamic guard in the draft. The Suns would have to figure out how to find minutes for all three guards.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 8.8 percent, 28-54

6. Denver Nuggets*


Jaylen Brown
Cal
Freshman
Forward


Denver is in the midst of a rebuild. There are interesting young players at every position for the Nuggets, which gives them some flexibility here. Brown is super intriguing given his NBA body and athleticism. He's just a jump shot away from being a star.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 6.3 percent, 32-50

7. New Orleans Pelicans


Jamal Murray
Kentucky
Freshman
Guard


The Pelicans continue to struggle with putting a real team around Anthony Davis. With Eric Gordon hitting free agency this coming summer, the Pelicans could use a guard who can create, shoot and finish at the rim.

Murray might not be an elite athlete, but his high basketball IQ and scoring ability should lift some of the load off Davis.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 4.3 percent, 34-48

Watch: Jamal Murray highlights Video

8. Milwaukee Bucks


Jakob Poeltl
Utah
Sophomore
Center


The Bucks might be the biggest disappointment in the East after their terrific run last year, but landing this high in the lottery might pay off.

Greg Monroe has been good for them in the middle. Still, the Bucks could continue to use players with size, rebounding and shot-blocking ability like Poeltl.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 2.8 percent, 36-46

9. Portland Trail Blazers*


Skal Labissiere
Kentucky
Freshman
Center/forward


The Blazers have both Meyers Leonard and Noah Vonleh as potential stretch-4s, but that wouldn't stop them from grabbing Labissiere here.

He was widely regarded as the second-best prospect in the draft after Simmons before the college season started. He's struggled mightily at Kentucky, but he still has the size, athleticism and perimeter skills teams covet.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 1.7 percent, 36-46

10. Sacramento Kings*


Wade Baldwin IV
Vanderbilt
Sophomore
Guard


Rajon Rondo has worked out well for the Kings, but he's an unrestricted free agent and will likely try to use that success to land on a better team.

Baldwin has great size and strength for his position and has proved to be very capable of shooting the rock. The Kings need a long-term answer at the point and Baldwin would be a good one.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 1.1 percent, 36-46

11. Toronto Raptors*


Ivan Rabb
Cal
Freshman
Forward/center


The Raptors have Jonas Valanciunas anchoring the middle and Bismack Biyombo has been a terrific rebounder off the bench, but they are truly in need of a dominant 4. Most scouts felt Rabb would be at least a two-year player at Cal. He's off to a very strong start, though, and ticks off a number of boxes that NBA scouts are looking for in modern bigs.

While he's not a 3-point threat yet, he can hit the midrange jumper and is a great rebounder.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record (via Knicks): 0.8 percent, 38-44

12. Orlando Magic


Deyonta Davis
Michigan State
Freshman
Forward


Davis is raw. Very raw. But he brings two things to the table that Orlando really needs: shot-blocking and front-court athleticism.

The Magic would have to be patient with him. If Davis stays another year at Michigan State, he could be a top-10 talent next year.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 0.7 percent, 39-43

13. Washington Wizards


Diamond Stone
Maryland
Freshman
Center


The Wizards could use help up front. Nene is in the last year of his contract and there just isn't a lot of depth right now behind Marcin Gortat at the 5.

Stone's ability to score with his back to the basket is his biggest draw. He's big, long and dominant in the post. His lack of elite athleticism hurts him a bit, but he's been rising on draft boards lately.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 0.6 percent, 39-43

14. Charlotte Hornets


Furkan Korkmaz
Turkey
Age: 18
Forward


The Hornets continue to be a team that could use additional 3-point shooting. Korkmaz is shooting 41 percent from deep in the Euroleague this year and 50 percent from 3 in Turkish play.

He's a prototypical 2-guard who could allow Nicolas Batum to spend more time at the 3 next season.

Odds of winning lottery, projected record: 0.5 percent, 40-42

15. Utah Jazz


Buddy Hield
Oklahoma
Senior
Guard


The Jazz don't have any real glaring needs. Hield would give them an elite scorer off the bench who excels at both shooting the ball (he's hitting 50 percent from 3 this season) and getting to the basket.

He's a bit undersized for his position, but he's the type of player Utah loves: smart, high-character and tough.

Projected record: 39-43

16. Denver Nuggets*

Jonathan Jeanne
France
Age: 18
Center/forward


Jeanne is an upside pick who might take a couple of years to come over to the NBA. But when he does, he has the chance to be awesome.

Blessed with elite size for his position, he can not only protect the rim with a crazy 7-foot-6 wingspan, but he has the ability to step out and shoot the jumper as well.

Projected record (via Rockets): 41-41

17. Boston Celtics*


Cheick Diallo
Kansas
Freshman
Forward/center


Danny Ainge loves toughness, and Diallo certainly has that. He was widely regarded as a top-10 prospect before the season began, but his lack of playing time (and struggles when he is on the court) have given teams some pause about his NBA readiness.

But there's so much talent there that after the lottery, someone is going to pounce.

Projected record (via Mavericks): 43-39

18. Memphis Grizzlies*


Caris LeVert
Michigan
Senior
Guard/forward


LeVert's versatility is his main calling card. He can play two positions on the floor and is an elite passer and 3-point shooter.

With Courtney Lee and Jeff Green both in the last year of their deals, he's a really good fit.

Projected record:43-39

19. Philadelphia 76ers*


Timothe Luwawu
France
Age: 20
Guard/forward


Luwawu is making a leap in the Adriatic League this year. Not only is he a terrific athlete and defender, but he's started hitting his 3s with regularity.

He's averaging 14.9 PPG and shooting 37 percent from deep for Mega Leks this season.

Projected record (via Heat): 43-39

20. Detroit Pistons



Thomas Bryant
Indiana
Freshman
Center


The Pistons could use some size behind Andre Drummond in the middle. Bryant is raw, but he plays hard, rebounds and has a soft shooting touch.

He's a project, but at this point in the draft, so are most of the prospects left on the board.

Projected record: 44-38

21. Chicago Bulls


Demetrius Jackson
Notre Dame
Junior
Guard


There are major question marks surrounding Derrick Rose right now, and even bigger ones around his replacements. Point guard has turned into a need for the Bulls.

Jackson is a little undersized, but he is tough, shoots the 3 and is a great floor leader.

Projected record: 25 percent, 46-36

22. Boston Celtics



Zhou Qi
China
Age: 19
Center


If the Celtics keep all three of their first-rounders, taking a young player to stash overseas makes sense here.

Zhou is super talented, skilled and long -- but his rail-thin body needs to add a lot of muscle. Boston can afford to wait.

Projected record: 46-36

23. Indiana Pacers


Gary Payton II
Oregon State
Senior
Guard


The Pacers should love the defensive prowess Payton brings to the table. He follows in his father's footsteps as a steals-hound and has shown progress as an offensive player in his two years at Oregon State.

Projected record: 47-35

24. Atlanta Hawks


Taurean Prince
Baylor
Senior
Forward


Prince is a versatile forward who can stretch the floor and defend multiple positions on the defensive end. Many scouts are hoping he's the second coming of DeMarre Carroll -- a player the Hawks miss badly after losing him to the Raptors in free agency.

Projected record: 47-35

25. Toronto Raptors



Marquese Chriss
Washington
Freshman
Forward


The Raptors could use a power forward and Masai Ujiri is a known gambler.

There's enormous talent in Chriss. He's athletic and long, and when he gets it going, he's a threat inside and outside. But he's also raw and inconsistent. Teams will have to be patient with him.

Projected record: 51-31

26. Los Angeles Clippers


Grayson Allen
Duke
Sophomore
Guard


Allen might be a bit undersized, but he has put on a scoring clinic at Duke this season. He is an athletic freak, shoots well and can even play on the ball.

We know how Doc Rivers feels about former Dukies. This should be a good fit.

Projected record: 51-31

27. Philadelphia 76ers*


Dejounte Murray
Washington
Freshman
Guard


No offense to Ish Smith, who is lighting things up for the Sixers this season, but the team is still very much looking for a long-term solution at point guard.

Murray is very interesting. Blessed with great size and athleticism for his position, he's having a big freshman year at Washington. He needs to improve his 3-point shooting and cut down on turnovers, but there is a lot of talent there.

Projected record (via Thunder): 57-25

28. Phoenix Suns*



Carlton Bragg
Kansas
Freshman
Forward


Bragg has played sparingly for the Jayhawks this year, but scouts are watching every time he steps on the court. His ability to score inside and out, combined with his rebounding ability, makes him an intriguing prospect.

He'll probably stay in school at least one more year for Kansas, but if he declares for the draft, Phoenix could bite.

Projected record (via Cavaliers): 57-25

29. San Antonio Spurs



Domantas Sabonis
Gonzaga
Sophomore
Forward

Sabonis is the perfect sort of Spurs player -- highly intelligent, tough, super-productive -- especially as a rebounder. But he lacks the flash and upside of players going ahead of him. He'd thrive under Gregg Popovich.

Projected record: 67-15

30. Golden State Warriors


Denzel Valentine
Michigan State
Senior
Forward/guard


Much like Draymond Green, Valentine had been written off by scouts as a position-less player lacking the elite athletic ability to compete in the NBA. Somehow, the Warriors turn those types of players into superstars. I could see that happening again with Valentine.

Projected record: 69-13

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2016, 09:20:18 AM »

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Thanks for that.

 I hope the BPI forecasts are right and that Brooklyn keeps the 3rd slot, Dallas fades to 18, and we end up with 46 wins.

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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2016, 09:31:43 AM »

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This mock seems to make sense thought I cant see UNC's Brice Johnson not going 1st round and I think Valentine will go higher.

As for the Cs I doubt they end up taking 3 project big men in the 1st round. I really doubt that end up even making all 3 picks. I do love the Bender pick. After Simmons and Ingram he has the best upside and also fits perfectly into the Cs current style of play. There is also the possibility that he stays in Europe for a couple of season which wouldn't be the worst thing given the Cs current depth and additional picks this draft. 

If the Cs where to keep all three picks and the draft played out this way I would likely go with Bender, Valentine and Payton. The latter two are redundant with the current roster but they will make it in the NBA and I view them as BPA. If Bender was in fact staying overseas I would take Brice Johnson instead of Payton.   
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This mock makes a ton of sense. With how many picks we have drafting two big men in the first who we can stash overseas is a good idea.

Bender might not come over this year, and Qi almost certainly won't. The C's could put Diallo on the active roster and develop him in the D-league. Then the C's could use two other roster spots on their early 2nd round picks (if the season ended today they would have the first and fourth picks in the 2nd round).

I'd like to see the C's target length, shooting and athleticism. If they drafted those 3 then added two shooters in the 2nd round they would cover all 3 areas.
DKC:  Rockets
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It does make sense even though I'm not a huge fan of Chad Ford. Bender is really rising up for me.  Especially if we get a guy like Kevin Love.  Imagine if we had two guys like Kelly and Bender to go with him.

I'm still a fan of Jaylen Brown.  Ivan Rabb is another guy I like.  Murray I was watching last night and eh. He reminds me of Marcus but without the defense.  I haven't watched any college basketball at all until then.  I'm sure there are sleepers out there. Kentucky actually had a little pg who impressed me but not highly scouted because of his height.  Reminded me of IT a bit but probably not the scorer and more of a floor general.  I always like those guys like Boykins and Nate Robinson.  You never know.

Labissiere has a ways to go and is really not that imposing physically.
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In all honesty there isn't a ton that jumps out at me at the top of this draft. It's good throughout though. I hope Danny makes the right picks. As we get closer to the draft I'll research it but really haven't at all. Ivan Rabb I like.  Even a guy like Bryce Johnson.  All interesting players. But as far as upside and fits for us I don't really see it.   Buddy Heild looks good from what I've heard but I haven't even seen him play.

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Bender looks great in highlight videos, but what I read about him is that he's a long way from being mature enough physically to play significant minutes in the NBA, and he might not even declare for this draft considering he's playing so few minutes overseas.  If the Celts do draft him, we might not watch him until 2018.
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Bender looks great in highlight videos, but what I read about him is that he's a long way from being mature enough physically to play significant minutes in the NBA, and he might not even declare for this draft considering he's playing so few minutes overseas.  If the Celts do draft him, we might not watch him until 2018.
Yeah it would be a shame if we had to wait that long for the draft pick to come over, but I'd rather go with the guy with the higher upside with the Nets pick.

I would also consider Dunn (long term him and Smart would be a problem), Brown (to replace Evan Turner short term and play next to Crowder long term) and Poeltl (who I think would be an upgrade from Sully)
DKC:  Rockets
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I will puke if we get another freakin power forward or point guard. So tired of this mediocrity

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I will puke if we get another freakin power forward or point guard. So tired of this mediocrity
Ben Simmons is a point power forward lol.
DKC:  Rockets
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Next 3 picks: 4.14, 4.15, 4.19

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Drafts are sometimes if not quite often very overrated.  It's rare  you get a player that comes in and makes an impact right away.  This draft looks good but sometimes you don't even want the top pick. I sort of do.  I was all in on Simmons a month ago. But at the same time this seems like more a draft where we can maybe get a player who can help us down the road like  every other draft.

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I will puke if we get another freakin power forward or point guard. So tired of this mediocrity
Ben Simmons is a point power forward lol.

Lol and?

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I will puke if we get another freakin power forward or point guard. So tired of this mediocrity
Ben Simmons is a point power forward lol.

Lol and?
You said you didn't want a power forward or a point guard. He's pretty much both.
DKC:  Rockets
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I will puke if we get another freakin power forward or point guard. So tired of this mediocrity
Ben Simmons is a point power forward lol.

Lol and?

Honestly I'd pick Ingram over him at number 1 or 2.  I think the kids overrated.
You said you didn't want a power forward or a point guard. He's pretty much both.

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