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Re: Think about this: Non-guaranteed contracts of AJ and JJ work for Love
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2016, 11:06:31 AM »

Offline Evantime34

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This thread is just silly. If the Cavs want to clear space this summer they could send Love to just about 28 other teams that would have the room due to the cap increase. It's like no one here understands this. Why would they trade for players they can waive or no pick up options on when they could just trade for picks and cap space? If you are talking mid season, it makes sense in matching up the numbers but why would they do it?
If the Cavs wanted to trade for a player they can use now, but the team that they want that player from prefers picks then they would trade with us. If the Cavs don't want our assets and a third team wants picks it makes perfect sense.
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Re: Think about this: Non-guaranteed contracts of AJ and JJ work for Love
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2016, 11:08:04 AM »

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These trade idea threads are usually "out there," but here's one I made so it's of burning importance that I post. Cleveland gets Markieff Morris/David Lee, Suns get Sullinger/Jerebko, Celtics get Kevin Love. It worked on the trade machine so it's probably going to happen.

Re: Think about this: Non-guaranteed contracts of AJ and JJ work for Love
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2016, 01:29:47 PM »

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Love's defense is crud.  He belongs on the better-without-Blake Clippers next to DeAndre Jordan.  Here's the "not-happening" trade that does it:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zkrmrgj

Two Cleveland first rounders (whenever that may be) to the Clippers.  And the Philly pick 31 to the Clippers as well.

lol @ Clippers trading Blake Griffin for Kevin Love and Evan Turner.

I'm trying to work out if Kevin Love would be better for the Clippers than Griffin or worse.  On one hand, his outside shooting would help spacing (needed with Deandre out there).  On the other hand, it brings the death of 'lob city' - Kevin Love is not catching ANY of those CP3 lobs haha

I think Love makes LA better, but Griffin makes Cleveland worse.

Blake and Lebron would be one of the weirdest attempted combos in recent memory, so I agree kind of.  But sometimes I think gambles like that can work out.  Grifiin is better than Love period, so there's that.  They could try weird lineups like Blake at center, especially against the vaunted Green-at- center Warriors lineup that has the league shaking.  And if the Cavs will have any chance against Golden State or the Spurs their defense HAS TO improve.  No other way.  And Griffin does that. 

I'm not writing off the Love Lebron Iriving trio if no deal happens, however.  That's because in the playoffs everyone's (even Love's) defense improves as everyone freaks out and plays defense like they're on panic steroids.  So that dynamic, along with being a big tough Eastern squad who can hit from outside, gives the Cavs a chance.  I think the blowout at home to the Warriors means very little actually.  I'd still upgrade to Blake however, if it were possible.  But I doubt the three late firsts in the above deal is enough for the Clippers to do it. 

As an aside, I don't like it for Boston.  29 year old Mosgov does nothing for the Celtics, unless Danny has a way to make the team a contender next year.  In that case it would be a good deal for the Celts.
Or, if not a good deal for unseen reasons, at least we could say Mosgov > Turner/Zeller. 

The Clippers future looks grim.  They aren't going anywhere.  They have to move one of the big three and they should do it ASAP.  Griffin should net something better than Love though.  Like Cousins level almost.  So Griffin and LA pick to the Kings, Cousins to the Celtics, and the farm to LA.  They're winning without Blake so make the move Doc it's the perfect time.  Throw Olly out there next to Jordan at big minutes and see what happens, and then a bunch of picks to save the Clippers future. 

Or would people do Crowder, Olly, matching players, Dallas pick, Boston pick and one future Brooklyn pick to Clippers, Griffin and something to Kings, Cousins to Celtics?  That's a lot of good stuff for the Clippers.  I don't know I really like the current arc the Celtics are on and I'm not sure I'd mess with it that severely for a head case (I'm sure he's a good guy but it's tiring to watch day in and day out).






Re: Think about this: Non-guaranteed contracts of AJ and JJ work for Love
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2016, 02:39:14 PM »

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Someone said that this thread is silly. Well I strongly disagree. It's rumor season so everything it possible (except few proposals).
I have watched Cle play this season and they are not what they thought they would be. They are not dominant. Lbj is a monster but others are playing average ball. Important to notice it their play vs. Warriors. They beat them twice including last nights whupping. They desperately need perimeter defense because Kyrie and Smith are terrible at that end. Shump is solid but often injured.
Love is playing solid but way below his possibilities. They signed him for long time but their window is now, lbj is not getting younger, so I can def imagine they trade Love for quality players and some picks. I said Love because they are not trading Irving.
Having that in mind I can see Danny checking with them for Love (don't forget that we recently made some trades with them), so something like Jerebko, Bradley, Sully and let's say this years ours and Dallas pick could be interesting for them (or maybe Dallas pick and BKN '17).

Re: Think about this: Non-guaranteed contracts of AJ and JJ work for Love
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2016, 02:50:37 PM »

Offline slamtheking

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These trade idea threads are usually "out there," but here's one I made so it's of burning importance that I post. Cleveland gets Markieff Morris/David Lee, Suns get Sullinger/Jerebko, Celtics get Kevin Love. It worked on the trade machine so it's probably going to happen.
that's actually not a horrible trade proposal.  Have to admit, C's probably get off a bit light since Lee's out of the rotation and JJ is rather limited in his on-court impact.

Re: Think about this: Non-guaranteed contracts of AJ and JJ work for Love
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2016, 03:16:51 PM »

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If you want some stats on Love, his RPM has him 4th overall among power forwards, and his DRPM is 16th overall.  So he's been outstanding offensively and pretty good defensively.

We keep talking about the need to consolidate, and something like Lee, sully, jj and a pick is something I'd do in heartbeat.