Danilo Gallinari fit?

[Ilikesports17]

I'm sorry but Gallo is a huge get.
He's a better defender than we're giving him credit for, he's an offensive weapon capable of being the second option on a contender.

We're worried about a defensive downgrade at the 4? Seriously? No offense to sully or Oly but neither are lock down defenders.

We're worried about his $14m sallary? Seriously. I think IT, Bradley Crowder contracts have spoiled us.
He's averaging nearly 20 and 6 and locked in at well below max for the next 2-3 years. jimminy cricket! What's the issue here?

With the cap rise that's coming he wouldn't impact our ability to land a Max and would negate the need to find a #2

He'd make I think 19 mil a year with us

[hwangjini_1]

I'm sorry but Gallo is a huge get.
He's a better defender than we're giving him credit for, he's an offensive weapon capable of being the second option on a contender.

We're worried about a defensive downgrade at the 4? Seriously? No offense to sully or Oly but neither are lock down defenders.

We're worried about his $14m sallary? Seriously. I think IT, Bradley Crowder contracts have spoiled us.
He's averaging nearly 20 and 6 and locked in at well below max for the next 2-3 years. jimminy cricket! What's the issue here?

With the cap rise that's coming he wouldn't impact our ability to land a Max and would negate the need to find a #2

He'd make I think 19 mil a year with us

could you give us a link for this? i saw that this year he makes $14million, then $15.5, then $16 million.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html

[ThePoeticWolf]

I've semi convinced myself that DA's main trade target this season is DG.
He can fill the bucket from anywhere on the floor and seems to have a scorers temperament.

This would make him a valuable addition to the team but where does he fit?

With crowder on the rise there is no chance he supplants him in the starting line up.
Would DG play the 4? Would we move Jae to the 4?

What about moving IT back to the bench and starting crowder at the 2 next to smart?

I know I'm counting chickens but, like I said, I've convinced myself that DG is a lock to get traded to the c's.

I'm not wanting Gallinari at all.  He's got such a big injury history, and just got signed to a good length contract at an over pay.  I know we're looking for a scorer but I rather it not be him.  I'd rather go after a big that could score 20 points a game and pull down 10 boards and increase or defense to keep the number 1 defense.  I rather go after a center like a Dwight Howard for a year rental with option next year, or either of the Gasols if the Bulls or Grizzles are selling.  Crowder is our best option at the small forward and Turner off our bench is a nice fit.  If we could get a shooter for a cheaper price I'd be more willing and someone with less of an injury history. 

[Ilikesports17]

I'm sorry but Gallo is a huge get.
He's a better defender than we're giving him credit for, he's an offensive weapon capable of being the second option on a contender.

We're worried about a defensive downgrade at the 4? Seriously? No offense to sully or Oly but neither are lock down defenders.

We're worried about his $14m sallary? Seriously. I think IT, Bradley Crowder contracts have spoiled us.
He's averaging nearly 20 and 6 and locked in at well below max for the next 2-3 years. jimminy cricket! What's the issue here?

With the cap rise that's coming he wouldn't impact our ability to land a Max and would negate the need to find a #2

He'd make I think 19 mil a year with us

could you give us a link for this? i saw that this year he makes $14million, then $15.5, then $16 million.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/08/nuggets-expected-extend-danilo-gallinari.html
He has a full trade kicker meaning next year he makes 17.8 mil and the year after he makes 18.4

I thought it was more but 18 mil is still a lot

[arctic 3.0]

I'm sorry but Gallo is a huge get.
He's a better defender than we're giving him credit for, he's an offensive weapon capable of being the second option on a contender.

We're worried about a defensive downgrade at the 4? Seriously? No offense to sully or Oly but neither are lock down defenders.

We're worried about his $14m sallary? Seriously. I think IT, Bradley Crowder contracts have spoiled us.
He's averaging nearly 20 and 6 and locked in at well below max for the next 2-3 years. jimminy cricket! What's the issue here?

With the cap rise that's coming he wouldn't impact our ability to land a Max and would negate the need to find a #2

He'd make I think 19 mil a year with us

could you give us a link for this? i saw that this year he makes $14million, then $15.5, then $16 million.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html

That's the contact as I've seen reported. There is was some talk about a trade kicker but I haven't been able to dig up any details.


On another note I'm really surprised people are so down on DG.
He would be a great get at the price I mentioned earlier.

If we don't use lee's contract at the deadline it becomes useless as a trade chip. Sure we'll get more cap room if we let him expire but every team in the league will have cap room this summer and we'll be bidding against everyone in the league for primire talent.

[Evantime34]

Gallo is shooting under 40%..... a decent 36% from three...  His offensive stats are inflated.   How is he defensively?

Over the past couple months, Jae Crowder has been better offensively than Gallo.  They play the same position.  Not sure Gallo should be the target anymore.   I'd look for a shooting guard upgrade over Bradley/Smart... or a better defensive anchor at the center position.  Depending on who we trade and who is left on the roster, I'm probably fine with Olynyk as our PF.

Why can't you play both at the same time? Crowder has shown the ability to guard 4's, he could defend whichever opponent is a bigger threat, at the 3 or the 4.

I'd rather not play Crowder out of position and get smaller just for the sake of adding Gallo at 14 mil per year.  I don't think that really even moves the needle enough for it to matter.

I heard that Ainge is unlikely to lock up money for someone like gallo anyways.  The team wants to have a shot at signing multiple max contract players this Summer.

Last season Gallinari played more of his minutes as a pf than as an SF. Last year his team had a positive differential with him at PF and a negative one with him at SF. He is absolutely better at a stretch 4 than as a 3. (source 82 games)

I can't find any data with his numbers split up by position for this season, but lineups with him at the 4 have better net ratings than those with him playing the 3. Gallo is better at the 4, Jae is better at the 3, I don't see what the issue is.

As to not wanting to clog up the cap with his contract, this is why I see a Gallinari trade as far more likely in the offseason when Danny has seen that he isn't going to do better in the free agent market.

I expect us not to be able to sign someone better than Gallo in free agency so I would make this move now, but if we are able to draft Ingram or Simmons, (both would slot well next to Crowder) then there isn't really room for Gallo

[LarBrd33]

Gallo is shooting under 40%..... a decent 36% from three...  His offensive stats are inflated.   How is he defensively?

Over the past couple months, Jae Crowder has been better offensively than Gallo.  They play the same position.  Not sure Gallo should be the target anymore.   I'd look for a shooting guard upgrade over Bradley/Smart... or a better defensive anchor at the center position.  Depending on who we trade and who is left on the roster, I'm probably fine with Olynyk as our PF.

Why can't you play both at the same time? Crowder has shown the ability to guard 4's, he could defend whichever opponent is a bigger threat, at the 3 or the 4.

I'd rather not play Crowder out of position and get smaller just for the sake of adding Gallo at 14 mil per year.  I don't think that really even moves the needle enough for it to matter.

I heard that Ainge is unlikely to lock up money for someone like gallo anyways.  The team wants to have a shot at signing multiple max contract players this Summer.

Last season Gallinari played more of his minutes as a pf than as an SF. Last year his team had a positive differential with him at PF and a negative one with him at SF. He is absolutely better at a stretch 4 than as a 3. (source 82 games)

I can't find any data with his numbers split up by position for this season, but lineups with him at the 4 have better net ratings than those with him playing the 3. Gallo is better at the 4, Jae is better at the 3, I don't see what the issue is.

As to not wanting to clog up the cap with his contract, this is why I see a Gallinari trade as far more likely in the offseason when Danny has seen that he isn't going to do better in the free agent market.

I expect us not to be able to sign someone better than Gallo in free agency so I would make this move now, but if we are able to draft Ingram or Simmons, (both would slot well next to Crowder) then there isn't really room for Gallo

I don't care if Gallo was better playing PF next to whoever they had playing SF compared to playing SF next to whoever they had at PF...

I don't think he'd be a good fit at PF here.   He's a SF.  Crowder is a SF.   I wouldn't play them together. 

As long as Crowder keeps up this level of play, I don't see the point in getting Gallo. 

Sure, depending on who we gave up, the addition of Gallo would make us slightly better... but either way we aren't contending.  I'd rather we focus on adding pieces that upgrade our weaker positions.

[Ilikesports17]

I'm sorry but Gallo is a huge get.
He's a better defender than we're giving him credit for, he's an offensive weapon capable of being the second option on a contender.

We're worried about a defensive downgrade at the 4? Seriously? No offense to sully or Oly but neither are lock down defenders.

We're worried about his $14m sallary? Seriously. I think IT, Bradley Crowder contracts have spoiled us.
He's averaging nearly 20 and 6 and locked in at well below max for the next 2-3 years. jimminy cricket! What's the issue here?

With the cap rise that's coming he wouldn't impact our ability to land a Max and would negate the need to find a #2

He'd make I think 19 mil a year with us

could you give us a link for this? i saw that this year he makes $14million, then $15.5, then $16 million.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html

That's the contact as I've seen reported. There is was some talk about a trade kicker but I haven't been able to dig up any details.


On another note I'm really surprised people are so down on DG.
He would be a great get at the price I mentioned earlier.

If we don't use lee's contract at the deadline it becomes useless as a trade chip. Sure we'll get more cap room if we let him expire but every team in the league will have cap room this summer and we'll be bidding against everyone in the league for primire talent.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/08/players-with-trade-kickers.html
The kicker is a confirmed 15% kicker.

I mean I like him too but he'd cost us an average of 18+mil
Not that he's not worth it but those are the facts

[Ilikesports17]

Gallo is shooting under 40%..... a decent 36% from three...  His offensive stats are inflated.   How is he defensively?

Over the past couple months, Jae Crowder has been better offensively than Gallo.  They play the same position.  Not sure Gallo should be the target anymore.   I'd look for a shooting guard upgrade over Bradley/Smart... or a better defensive anchor at the center position.  Depending on who we trade and who is left on the roster, I'm probably fine with Olynyk as our PF.

Why can't you play both at the same time? Crowder has shown the ability to guard 4's, he could defend whichever opponent is a bigger threat, at the 3 or the 4.

I'd rather not play Crowder out of position and get smaller just for the sake of adding Gallo at 14 mil per year.  I don't think that really even moves the needle enough for it to matter.

I heard that Ainge is unlikely to lock up money for someone like gallo anyways.  The team wants to have a shot at signing multiple max contract players this Summer.

Last season Gallinari played more of his minutes as a pf than as an SF. Last year his team had a positive differential with him at PF and a negative one with him at SF. He is absolutely better at a stretch 4 than as a 3. (source 82 games)

I can't find any data with his numbers split up by position for this season, but lineups with him at the 4 have better net ratings than those with him playing the 3. Gallo is better at the 4, Jae is better at the 3, I don't see what the issue is.

As to not wanting to clog up the cap with his contract, this is why I see a Gallinari trade as far more likely in the offseason when Danny has seen that he isn't going to do better in the free agent market.

I expect us not to be able to sign someone better than Gallo in free agency so I would make this move now, but if we are able to draft Ingram or Simmons, (both would slot well next to Crowder) then there isn't really room for Gallo

I don't care if Gallo was better playing PF next to whoever they had playing SF compared to playing SF next to whoever they had at PF...

I don't think he'd be a good fit at PF here.   He's a SF.  Crowder is a SF.   I wouldn't play them together. 

As long as Crowder keeps up this level of play, I don't see the point in getting Gallo. 

Sure, depending on who we gave up, the addition of Gallo would make us slightly better... but either way we aren't contending.  I'd rather we focus on adding pieces that upgrade our weaker positions.

According to Brad they are both Swings. Swings who can shoot threes and have proven the ability to play both the 3 and 4 for stretches of time.

[Evantime34]

Gallo is shooting under 40%..... a decent 36% from three...  His offensive stats are inflated.   How is he defensively?

Over the past couple months, Jae Crowder has been better offensively than Gallo.  They play the same position.  Not sure Gallo should be the target anymore.   I'd look for a shooting guard upgrade over Bradley/Smart... or a better defensive anchor at the center position.  Depending on who we trade and who is left on the roster, I'm probably fine with Olynyk as our PF.

Why can't you play both at the same time? Crowder has shown the ability to guard 4's, he could defend whichever opponent is a bigger threat, at the 3 or the 4.

I'd rather not play Crowder out of position and get smaller just for the sake of adding Gallo at 14 mil per year.  I don't think that really even moves the needle enough for it to matter.

I heard that Ainge is unlikely to lock up money for someone like gallo anyways.  The team wants to have a shot at signing multiple max contract players this Summer.

Last season Gallinari played more of his minutes as a pf than as an SF. Last year his team had a positive differential with him at PF and a negative one with him at SF. He is absolutely better at a stretch 4 than as a 3. (source 82 games)

I can't find any data with his numbers split up by position for this season, but lineups with him at the 4 have better net ratings than those with him playing the 3. Gallo is better at the 4, Jae is better at the 3, I don't see what the issue is.

As to not wanting to clog up the cap with his contract, this is why I see a Gallinari trade as far more likely in the offseason when Danny has seen that he isn't going to do better in the free agent market.

I expect us not to be able to sign someone better than Gallo in free agency so I would make this move now, but if we are able to draft Ingram or Simmons, (both would slot well next to Crowder) then there isn't really room for Gallo

I don't care if Gallo was better playing PF next to whoever they had playing SF compared to playing SF next to whoever they had at PF...

I don't think he'd be a good fit at PF here.   He's a SF.  Crowder is a SF.   I wouldn't play them together. 

As long as Crowder keeps up this level of play, I don't see the point in getting Gallo. 

Sure, depending on who we gave up, the addition of Gallo would make us slightly better... but either way we aren't contending.  I'd rather we focus on adding pieces that upgrade our weaker positions.

I'm not sure how you can just decide that Danilo is an Sf even if he played better and more often last year at the 4. Can you explain this to me?

There are more 4's that will struggle to guard him than ones that he will struggle to guard. The days of the big post scoring 4's are over Gallo is the direction the position is going in.
 
Danilo would provide the shooting, and steady scoring ( almost 8 ft attempts a game).

[Evantime34]

I'm sorry but Gallo is a huge get.
He's a better defender than we're giving him credit for, he's an offensive weapon capable of being the second option on a contender.

We're worried about a defensive downgrade at the 4? Seriously? No offense to sully or Oly but neither are lock down defenders.

We're worried about his $14m sallary? Seriously. I think IT, Bradley Crowder contracts have spoiled us.
He's averaging nearly 20 and 6 and locked in at well below max for the next 2-3 years. jimminy cricket! What's the issue here?

With the cap rise that's coming he wouldn't impact our ability to land a Max and would negate the need to find a #2

He'd make I think 19 mil a year with us

could you give us a link for this? i saw that this year he makes $14million, then $15.5, then $16 million.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html

That's the contact as I've seen reported. There is was some talk about a trade kicker but I haven't been able to dig up any details.


On another note I'm really surprised people are so down on DG.
He would be a great get at the price I mentioned earlier.

If we don't use lee's contract at the deadline it becomes useless as a trade chip. Sure we'll get more cap room if we let him expire but every team in the league will have cap room this summer and we'll be bidding against everyone in the league for primire talent.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/08/players-with-trade-kickers.html
The kicker is a confirmed 15% kicker.

I mean I like him too but he'd cost us an average of 18+mil
Not that appliest worth it but those are the facts

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe a trade kicker only applies to the year he's dealt, not to the value of the contract. So he would get 18 this year not an average of 18

[Ilikesports17]

I'm sorry but Gallo is a huge get.
He's a better defender than we're giving him credit for, he's an offensive weapon capable of being the second option on a contender.

We're worried about a defensive downgrade at the 4? Seriously? No offense to sully or Oly but neither are lock down defenders.

We're worried about his $14m sallary? Seriously. I think IT, Bradley Crowder contracts have spoiled us.
He's averaging nearly 20 and 6 and locked in at well below max for the next 2-3 years. jimminy cricket! What's the issue here?

With the cap rise that's coming he wouldn't impact our ability to land a Max and would negate the need to find a #2

He'd make I think 19 mil a year with us

could you give us a link for this? i saw that this year he makes $14million, then $15.5, then $16 million.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html

That's the contact as I've seen reported. There is was some talk about a trade kicker but I haven't been able to dig up any details.


On another note I'm really surprised people are so down on DG.
He would be a great get at the price I mentioned earlier.

If we don't use lee's contract at the deadline it becomes useless as a trade chip. Sure we'll get more cap room if we let him expire but every team in the league will have cap room this summer and we'll be bidding against everyone in the league for primire talent.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/08/players-with-trade-kickers.html
The kicker is a confirmed 15% kicker.

I mean I like him too but he'd cost us an average of 18+mil
Not that appliest worth it but those are the facts

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe a trade kicker only applies to the year he's dealt, not to the value of the contract. So he would get 18 this year not an average of 18

That could be. The way I understand it is they take the whole value of the deal that hasn't been paid out, multiply that by .15 then distribute that over the remainder of the contract.

[oldtype]

I don't think we really need an offensive upgrade in the starting lineup unless it's an all-star level player. Thomas-Crowder-Bradley are all credible scoring options (probably in that order).

The reason our offense is anemic is that ever since Thomas moved to the starting lineup, we don't have a scorer to bring off the bench other than Olynyk and maybe Turner (who practices his own special version of "offense"). Gallo is a bit overqualified for that, and probably wouldn't be happy playing the role.

[LarBrd33]

Gallo is shooting under 40%..... a decent 36% from three...  His offensive stats are inflated.   How is he defensively?

Over the past couple months, Jae Crowder has been better offensively than Gallo.  They play the same position.  Not sure Gallo should be the target anymore.   I'd look for a shooting guard upgrade over Bradley/Smart... or a better defensive anchor at the center position.  Depending on who we trade and who is left on the roster, I'm probably fine with Olynyk as our PF.

Why can't you play both at the same time? Crowder has shown the ability to guard 4's, he could defend whichever opponent is a bigger threat, at the 3 or the 4.

I'd rather not play Crowder out of position and get smaller just for the sake of adding Gallo at 14 mil per year.  I don't think that really even moves the needle enough for it to matter.

I heard that Ainge is unlikely to lock up money for someone like gallo anyways.  The team wants to have a shot at signing multiple max contract players this Summer.

Last season Gallinari played more of his minutes as a pf than as an SF. Last year his team had a positive differential with him at PF and a negative one with him at SF. He is absolutely better at a stretch 4 than as a 3. (source 82 games)

I can't find any data with his numbers split up by position for this season, but lineups with him at the 4 have better net ratings than those with him playing the 3. Gallo is better at the 4, Jae is better at the 3, I don't see what the issue is.

As to not wanting to clog up the cap with his contract, this is why I see a Gallinari trade as far more likely in the offseason when Danny has seen that he isn't going to do better in the free agent market.

I expect us not to be able to sign someone better than Gallo in free agency so I would make this move now, but if we are able to draft Ingram or Simmons, (both would slot well next to Crowder) then there isn't really room for Gallo

I don't care if Gallo was better playing PF next to whoever they had playing SF compared to playing SF next to whoever they had at PF...

I don't think he'd be a good fit at PF here.   He's a SF.  Crowder is a SF.   I wouldn't play them together. 

As long as Crowder keeps up this level of play, I don't see the point in getting Gallo. 

Sure, depending on who we gave up, the addition of Gallo would make us slightly better... but either way we aren't contending.  I'd rather we focus on adding pieces that upgrade our weaker positions.

I'm not sure how you can just decide that Danilo is an Sf even if he played better and more often last year at the 4. Can you explain this to me?

There are more 4's that will struggle to guard him than ones that he will struggle to guard. The days of the big post scoring 4's are over Gallo is the direction the position is going in.
 
Danilo would provide the shooting, and steady scoring ( almost 8 ft attempts a game).

Who else was in the lineup with him playing PF compared to the lineups with him playing SF?  Show me names.

[Evantime34]

Gallo is shooting under 40%..... a decent 36% from three...  His offensive stats are inflated.   How is he defensively?

Over the past couple months, Jae Crowder has been better offensively than Gallo.  They play the same position.  Not sure Gallo should be the target anymore.   I'd look for a shooting guard upgrade over Bradley/Smart... or a better defensive anchor at the center position.  Depending on who we trade and who is left on the roster, I'm probably fine with Olynyk as our PF.

Why can't you play both at the same time? Crowder has shown the ability to guard 4's, he could defend whichever opponent is a bigger threat, at the 3 or the 4.

I'd rather not play Crowder out of position and get smaller just for the sake of adding Gallo at 14 mil per year.  I don't think that really even moves the needle enough for it to matter.

I heard that Ainge is unlikely to lock up money for someone like gallo anyways.  The team wants to have a shot at signing multiple max contract players this Summer.

Last season Gallinari played more of his minutes as a pf than as an SF. Last year his team had a positive differential with him at PF and a negative one with him at SF. He is absolutely better at a stretch 4 than as a 3. (source 82 games)

I can't find any data with his numbers split up by position for this season, but lineups with him at the 4 have better net ratings than those with him playing the 3. Gallo is better at the 4, Jae is better at the 3, I don't see what the issue is.

As to not wanting to clog up the cap with his contract, this is why I see a Gallinari trade as far more likely in the offseason when Danny has seen that he isn't going to do better in the free agent market.

I expect us not to be able to sign someone better than Gallo in free agency so I would make this move now, but if we are able to draft Ingram or Simmons, (both would slot well next to Crowder) then there isn't really room for Gallo

I don't care if Gallo was better playing PF next to whoever they had playing SF compared to playing SF next to whoever they had at PF...

I don't think he'd be a good fit at PF here.   He's a SF.  Crowder is a SF.   I wouldn't play them together. 

As long as Crowder keeps up this level of play, I don't see the point in getting Gallo. 

Sure, depending on who we gave up, the addition of Gallo would make us slightly better... but either way we aren't contending.  I'd rather we focus on adding pieces that upgrade our weaker positions.

I'm not sure how you can just decide that Danilo is an Sf even if he played better and more often last year at the 4. Can you explain this to me?

There are more 4's that will struggle to guard him than ones that he will struggle to guard. The days of the big post scoring 4's are over Gallo is the direction the position is going in.
 
Danilo would provide the shooting, and steady scoring ( almost 8 ft attempts a game).

Who else was in the lineup with him playing PF compared to the lineups with him playing SF?  Show me names.

Most of the positive lineups feature Gallo next to either Faried or Arthur.

Most of the negative lineups with him at the 3 have two of Faried, Arthur, Lauverne, Jokic, and Hickson. Any lineup with more than one non 3 point shooter does poorly for the Nuggets which is also something that can be seen with our lineups.