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crowders shot
« on: January 17, 2016, 12:12:31 PM »

Offline rollie mass

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the first thing rollie massimino did when he came to lexington was reconstruct everyones jump shot
that was long ago,i know everyone talks about young but i think crowder with his precise workouts and reps could become a deadly consistent shooter
jae didn't come advertised but i like his form, ease of release ,arc and pullups-todays young players have shooting coaches-so who am i to judge
what do others think
,is this just a confident streak or is he about to become a diciplined, consistent shooter-
rj struggled up in maine yesterday, got his points but took high volume of shots
i think he is the type that plays better with better players
,rozier isn't close to marcus on defense was surprised because of combine hype,marcus has a knack of getting over screens that is unteachable

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2016, 02:50:52 AM »

Offline CelticPride2016

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On the surface, Brandan Wright and the draft pick seemed to be the deal. Now it has turned into the Jae Crowder Show.

I think shooting comes down to practice. It is similar to juggling. It is something that needs to become second nature.

And this also pertains to mediocre or bad shooters, imho. I think it is psychological if a player can't improve on shooting or they are not trying hard enough.

DJ turned himself into an average somewhat clutch shooter. Maybe Smart can too.

Crowder is this year's Avery Bradley. Did anyone predict Avery would turn into a Ray Allen clone? Maybe Jae Crowder is the great player who comes out of nowhere and he is one piece of the future puzzle solved.

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 05:29:41 AM »

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Did anyone predict Avery would turn into a Ray Allen clone?

In what world is Avery Bradley a Ray Allen clone? How many 40% seasons from 3 point land did Avery have? How many 15+point seasons did AB have? How many 20+ seasons? How many 25+ seasons? How many All Star games did AB play?

Total missed lay ups is about the only category AB leads in, over Ray Allen.

AB is great competitor, his shooting is much improved, and NBA worthy. His on ball defense has always been excellent. Very likable kid.

But don't compare him to an all time great, such as Ray Allen was.

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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 10:15:04 AM »

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Avery has shot about 6% from 3 this month, for what it's worth. I know this is a Crowder thread, but sometimes I feel for AB. Fans want him to shoot 3s, which requires him to always be moving and attempting to free himself like Ray. Analysts label his lack of getting to the line a deficiency in his game. My question is: which is it? Wade by reputation isn't a great shooter but he's fantastic at penetrating and drawing fouls to get to the line. Meanwhile, we want AB to be a great shooter, but without realizing the cost of which is likely less FT attempts and more moving around the perimeter.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 10:25:23 AM »

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A lot of people like to play gotcha games. If Avery was Ray's clone, he'd shoot even better than he does, but his defense would be awful.

Google hyperbole.

"But don't compare him to an all time great, such as Ray Allen was."

I will compare Avery to Ray Allen as often as possible in response to such a request. The Celtics turned Ray into a winner, not the other way around. In fact, Ray was one of the biggest reasons the team ended up on the treadmill. Bradley was ready to start, but Ray didn't want his feewings hurt. It was all about Ray. There's more to team sport than big egos.

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 11:14:28 AM »

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A lot of people like to play gotcha games. If Avery was Ray's clone, he'd shoot even better than he does, but his defense would be awful.

Google hyperbole.

"But don't compare him to an all time great, such as Ray Allen was."

I will compare Avery to Ray Allen as often as possible in response to such a request. The Celtics turned Ray into a winner, not the other way around. In fact, Ray was one of the biggest reasons the team ended up on the treadmill. Bradley was ready to start, but Ray didn't want his feewings hurt. It was all about Ray. There's more to team sport than big egos.

Completely wrong imho.  Ray was clutch for the Celtics, and an underrated defender.  Things did get a little ugly there at the end of his time here, but I'll always be a fan.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2016, 02:50:45 PM »

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He was clutch, in general. He was also awful and not clutch at times. Ray improved on defense. That was all about KG and Pierce. I suppose Posey should get more credit than he does. Everyone talks up Bill Walton for the great 1986 team, but it was Posey who was just as vital if not more so to 2008.

Ray Allen had a great career. It goes without saying that he was one of the greatest pure shooters of all time.

I remember when he was on the Bucks. I think it was them. He'd torch you for 25 points, but Cornbread or Tommy would say don't worry because he will give it back on the other end.

Avery has become a better player each year and that includes shooting. Something had to give. They were showcasing him like mad last year and he was streaky. Everyone complains about Sully taking threes, but what if starts making them? Everyone said what the heck is Francona doing sticking with Pedroia?

What gave is that Bradley turned out to be a great shooter. I would argue if you replaced this Avery, not the recent slump, but the whole year with Ray Allen, maybe we win two or three rings KG injured or not. Ray had that memorable Chicago playoff game and a few others. But there were other games he couldn't hit the side of a barn. And talk about matador defense.

I think people are overrating Ray Allen and underrating Avery Bradley.

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2016, 02:56:53 PM »

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I like Crowder's game but not as our second goto scorer like he's become. And it's no fault of his. We just need better players still.

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2016, 03:03:19 PM »

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Crowder's had an awesome season.

I suspect his shot will be up and down over time.  I don't believe he just suddenly turned into a 18-20 point per game scorer.  His shot this year has been better than I ever reasonably expected it to be.  The Celts don't need him to be a deadeye, though, they just need his spot up jumper to be a weapon other teams respect.

Similar to other guys of his ilk (e.g. Ariza, Carroll, Dudley, etc), he will have stretches where he's scoring 18-20 regularly, and stretches where he's scoring 8-12 points.  But he always comes to play and brings energy, toughness and leadership.  When he's not scoring, he still makes hustle plays and keeps the ball moving.

He's the anti-Jeff Green.
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