Trade Idea in Zach Lowe Article

[wdleehi]

I think Monroe fits well with our team. We don't need a traditional rim protector because our perimeter D is incredible. We need a two-way Center to fill the void that Sullinger is likely to leave next season(and Sully's O has fallen off a cliff). Monroe pops up in most APMs with good defensive numbers too often to call it a coincidence. His rebounding and positioning is key.

It would have to be a situation where we know the major splashes are off the table because Lee's contract would be the filler.

What wouldn't add up in the whole thing is that we had the chance to pursue Monroe this summer and didn't seem to.

I like the idea.   


And it wouldn't stop the Celtics from making another big move if one was available.  The combination of Amir and Jerebko deal (both basically a one year deal with a team option) equals around 17 million.

I like the Monroe for Lee, Sully and Boston's lotto protected 1st.   Even better, the Bucks could trade a trade exception for Sully and the Lee for Monroe still works. 

I get the allure of a talent upgrade from Sully to Monroe but the way I'm seeing it, we're helping them shed Monroe's contract for an expiring deal in Lee, giving them a trade exception from Sully AND giving them a first rounder in what you're offering.  I'd revise that offer to just Lee and Sully for Monroe or Lee and either the better of the C's/Dallas picks this year (lottery protected) OR if both are in the lottery, they get the worse of the two picks.  The concern I have with that offering is that we still have a clogged frontcourt but at least we'd still have Sully as a trade chip for another deal.

Celtics get the trade exception. 


As for the clog, one less big man on the team.   One big man clearly better then the others.  One big man clearly the starting C. 


It improves the Celtics talent.   It is a quantity for quality trade.  It leaves in place the majority of the off-seasons trading pieces. 


Celtics still have 17 million in non-guaranteed money to trade or just waive.  Leaves them open to go after good free agents.

ok - my misunderstanding on the exception.  Considering how Danny's used those in the past, I'd go along with the deal but with the pick protections I mentioned

No, I agree on the pick protection.   Lotto protected all the way.  Though, I think the offer of the best non-lotto first would work.  The last thing the Celtics want is the pick to roll over to next year when all they may have is the Net's pick. 

[slamtheking]

I think Monroe fits well with our team. We don't need a traditional rim protector because our perimeter D is incredible. We need a two-way Center to fill the void that Sullinger is likely to leave next season(and Sully's O has fallen off a cliff). Monroe pops up in most APMs with good defensive numbers too often to call it a coincidence. His rebounding and positioning is key.

It would have to be a situation where we know the major splashes are off the table because Lee's contract would be the filler.

What wouldn't add up in the whole thing is that we had the chance to pursue Monroe this summer and didn't seem to.

I like the idea.   


And it wouldn't stop the Celtics from making another big move if one was available.  The combination of Amir and Jerebko deal (both basically a one year deal with a team option) equals around 17 million.

I like the Monroe for Lee, Sully and Boston's lotto protected 1st.   Even better, the Bucks could trade a trade exception for Sully and the Lee for Monroe still works. 

I get the allure of a talent upgrade from Sully to Monroe but the way I'm seeing it, we're helping them shed Monroe's contract for an expiring deal in Lee, giving them a trade exception from Sully AND giving them a first rounder in what you're offering.  I'd revise that offer to just Lee and Sully for Monroe or Lee and either the better of the C's/Dallas picks this year (lottery protected) OR if both are in the lottery, they get the worse of the two picks.  The concern I have with that offering is that we still have a clogged frontcourt but at least we'd still have Sully as a trade chip for another deal.

Celtics get the trade exception. 


As for the clog, one less big man on the team.   One big man clearly better then the others.  One big man clearly the starting C. 


It improves the Celtics talent.   It is a quantity for quality trade.  It leaves in place the majority of the off-seasons trading pieces. 


Celtics still have 17 million in non-guaranteed money to trade or just waive.  Leaves them open to go after good free agents.

ok - my misunderstanding on the exception.  Considering how Danny's used those in the past, I'd go along with the deal but with the pick protections I mentioned

No, I agree on the pick protection.   Lotto protected all the way.  Though, I think the offer of the best non-lotto first would work.  The last thing the Celtics want is the pick to roll over to next year when all they may have is the Net's pick. 

that'd work for me as well.  it's a deal. 

[Evantime34]

Why do you think that the Bucks would trade Monroe?  They have given no indication that they are unhappy with him and they just signed him.

Lowe makes an argument for it in his article that I linked to in the first post.

[wdleehi]

Why do you think that the Bucks would trade Monroe?  They have given no indication that they are unhappy with him and they just signed him.

Lowe makes an argument for it in his article that I linked to in the first post.

One of the more fun "what if".

[MBunge]

Why do you think that the Bucks would trade Monroe?  They have given no indication that they are unhappy with him and they just signed him.

They're 16-25 and have looked just that bad.  Monroe is putting up solid scoring and rebounding numbers and is probably the most viable trade piece on their roster.

I liked the idea of going after Monroe but I haven't paid much attention to what role he may be playing in how disappointing their season has been.

Mike

[The One]

Yes, I wanted him as a free agent.  I think he fits very well.  True low post offense and a good rebounder.

But why didn't Danny pursue in the offseason??  Makes me wonder.

[wdleehi]

Yes, I wanted him as a free agent.  I think he fits very well.  True low post offense and a good rebounder.

But why didn't Danny pursue in the offseason??  Makes me wonder.

No cap space.

[Eddie20]

Yes, I wanted him as a free agent.  I think he fits very well.  True low post offense and a good rebounder.

But why didn't Danny pursue in the offseason??  Makes me wonder.

No cap space.

We signed Amir. We could've stretched Wallace. Point is that if we wanted to shed a few million to go after a player, we would've done it.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Yes, I wanted him as a free agent.  I think he fits very well.  True low post offense and a good rebounder.

But why didn't Danny pursue in the offseason??  Makes me wonder.

No cap space.

False.