A step back..

[TheSundanceKid]

Ok so to be clear, this is a trade that will take us back a step. It's not clear that we will go that direction but if we did what are the merits of this trade? And the likelihood?

Boston receives: Q Pondexter, K Perkins, 2016 NO 1st
Boston sends: J Sullinger, E Turner, 2016 DAL 1st

Pondexter is out for the season for this trade is essentially just to move up in the draft. NO might feel like they can still make the players and want to add some healthy bodies to the mix. We hope that Turner and Sully don't help them enough to get out of the top 10.

I know NO didn't have a 1st last year so under the Stepian rule they need one this year. So would the DAL pick work under that? Maybe you have to protect it to say that NO get the worse of the two?

I'd want to do this closer to the trade deadline to make the NO pick more valuable but maybe they sour on the deal.

[trickybilly]

Closer to the deadline will make the Dallas pick more valuable too maybe..

I like getting quincy out of it..

[Celtics4ever]

That is not a step back, it is falling on your face.  The NO pick is nice but as you say can we even get it, also they may value who they pick more than what you have offered.

[TheSundanceKid]

That is not a step back, it is falling on your face.  The NO pick is nice but as you say can we even get it, also they may value who they pick more than what you have offered.

Ha yeah it's a move Ainge would only make if he thought the team was going nowhere quick. It's by no means a nobrainer for NO either, they would have to think Sully and ET can give them a playoff push or else what's the point..

[CroCorvus]

Demps hangs up the phone. Pelicans are not fighting for the Playoffs. They are a mess. They will shutdown AD after the ASG and will probably get TOP 6 pick. Dallas pick will be somewhere between 18-23. I don't see this happening...

[TheSundanceKid]

Closer to the deadline will make the Dallas pick more valuable too maybe..

I like getting quincy out of it..

Yep Quincy is a nice addition. A good 3 point shot for Brad's offence. Out for teh year unfortunately.

Demps hangs up the phone. Pelicans are not fighting for the Playoffs. They are a mess. They will shutdown AD after the ASG and will probably get TOP 6 pick. Dallas pick will be somewhere between 18-23. I don't see this happening...

Maybe, in which case they wouldn't do this trade. But let's say they are 3-4 games back from the playoffs before the ASG, I think the NO front office would push for the playoffs.

[KG Living Legend]

 Change title to sprinting backwards...

[Csfan1984]

It's an okay trade but can NO really get to playoffs and if they did how is Sully and Turner only move C's up 10 spots in mid 1st round? Given how poorly the players have played in NO they taking a step back and remaining a bottom 6 team may be best for them. They need a 2nd star. I'm not against C's taking a step back but they need a better deal.

[Denis998]

I still have hope they will make a run, and end as a middling team.

[TheSundanceKid]

It's an okay trade but can NO really get to playoffs and if they did how is Sully and Turner only move C's up 10 spots in mid 1st round? Given how poorly the players have played in NO they taking a step back and remaining a bottom 6 team may be best for them. They need a 2nd star. I'm not against C's taking a step back but they need a better deal.

If they did make the playoffs then the gamble didn't pay off. The gamble is that they would make this deal and they'd still end up in the top 10

[slamtheking]

more like "getting a running start to jump in the Grand Canyon"

so, you propose giving up our best rebounder and our second best ball handler (as well as the second best person at getting their own shot) just to move up in this draft?  why?  NO would be a bit better but not enough to justify swapping their pick with Dallas.  We'd go far enough down in the standings to be solidly in the lottery. 

What's the point of having 3 lottery picks this year  (IF you got NO to agree, which they won't) when the talent seems to be falling off after the second pick to where the players may be solid pros but no one spectacular?

[TheSundanceKid]

more like "getting a running start to jump in the Grand Canyon"

so, you propose giving up our best rebounder and our second best ball handler (as well as the second best person at getting their own shot) just to move up in this draft?  why?  NO would be a bit better but not enough to justify swapping their pick with Dallas.  We'd go far enough down in the standings to be solidly in the lottery. 

What's the point of having 3 lottery picks this year  (IF you got NO to agree, which they won't) when the talent seems to be falling off after the second pick to where the players may be solid pros but no one spectacular?

It's a trade idea that would only happen if Ainge decided this group was going to exit the playoffs 1st round and he didn't want that. I'm not saying we should do this no matter waht.

Again, I agree that NO wouldn't improve to make the playoffs, but its conceivable that they might think they would.

I disagree that the talent falls off after the 2nd pick. People rush to call every draft a 2 man race, then they call it deep, then they say its not as deep as we thought... Come June it will be clearer but I believe there are a lot of sold prospects in this draft. Brown, Ellenson, Murray, Poeltl to name a few.
Also 3 lottery picks is a pretty decent start in trade discussions..

[Geo123]

That's such a terrible trade for us.  Sorry but our GM isn't named Billy King

[Csfan1984]

It's an okay trade but can NO really get to playoffs and if they did how is Sully and Turner only move C's up 10 spots in mid 1st round? Given how poorly the players have played in NO they taking a step back and remaining a bottom 6 team may be best for them. They need a 2nd star. I'm not against C's taking a step back but they need a better deal.

If they did make the playoffs then the gamble didn't pay off. The gamble is that they would make this deal and they'd still end up in the top 10

That is also the thing Pelicans won't trade a 1st without top ten protection. It ensures that they and the C's know it's a playoff push with these players. If they fail and aren't close with the players they thought were good then we know what happens.