Which team says no? (Pelicans trade idea)

[LarBrd33]

Jrue Holiday (10 mil 2 years), Ryan Anderson (8.5 mil expiring), Omer Asik (9.2 mil - 5 years)

For

Lee's expiring (15 mil), Jerebko's expiring (5 mil), Isaiah Thomas (6.9 mil - 3 years) and Jared Sullinger (2.5 mil ... restricted free agent)

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j5rn32m

[pearljammer10]

I'd say no. Thomas is more important than any of those guys.

[LarBrd33]

I'd say no. Thomas is more important than any of those guys.

No he isn't.  Holiday is better.

[Eddie20]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

[alldaboston]

Oh my goodness. So Thomas isn't better than Holiday. I don't agree with that at all. And you're willing to take on Asik's horrid contract?

I am at a loss for words.

[LarBrd33]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

[LarBrd33]

Oh my goodness. So Thomas isn't better than Holiday. I don't agree with that at all. And you're willing to take on Asik's horrid contract?

I am at a loss for words.

No... Thomas is not better than Holiday.   HOliday is an injury risk, but healthy Holiday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Significantly better defender.  Far more efficient offensively. 

[Eddie20]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

You overrating other players/underrating our players is really out of control.

[LarBrd33]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

You overrating other players/underrating our players is really out of control.

False.   

[Eddie20]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

You overrating other players/underrating our players is really out of control.

False.

It's not out of control yet?

[LarBrd33]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

You overrating other players/underrating our players is really out of control.

False.

It's not out of control yet?

You're basing your latest gonzo insult on the idea that Thomas is better than Jrue HOliday.  He isn't.  Period. 

Jrue is a significantly better shooter and defender.   Thomas is "better" than Jrue in the same was Antoine walker was "better" than Jermaine O'neal...  volume scoring aside, healthy Jrue Holiday is an upgrade over Thomas. 

[alldaboston]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

You overrating other players/underrating our players is really out of control.

False.

It's not out of control yet?

You're basing your latest gonzo insult on the idea that Thomas is better than Jrue HOliday.  He isn't.  Period.

You mock others for "gonzo insults", but your word is the truth? Fact? Undeniable? Who says that Thomas is worse than Holiday? You? Who are you to decide for all of us who the better player is? You show off your own opinions, but as soon as someone else disagrees you think you're the only genius here and that no one else is even remotely qualified to have an opinion.

[Eddie20]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

You overrating other players/underrating our players is really out of control.

False.

It's not out of control yet?

You're basing your latest gonzo insult on the idea that Thomas is better than Jrue HOliday.  He isn't.  Period. 

Jrue is a significantly better shooter and defender.   Thomas is "better" than Jrue in the same was Antoine walker was "better" than Jermaine O'neal...  volume scoring aside, healthy Jrue Holiday is an upgrade over Thomas.

So then you're saying the Pelicans have 3 players (Davis, Evans, and Jrue) better than anyone on our roster. If that's the case, then why do they have the 4th worst record in the league? Your math simply doesn't add up. Kind of like when you said the Nets had 3 players on their roster (Lopez, Young, and Johnson) better than anyone on ours. Remember that?

You've struck out so much recently with your off the wall predictions/opinions that every time you post there should be a disclaimer that reads *CONSIDER THE SOURCE*. You have a long way to go to rebuild your credibility.

[MJohnnyboy]

The dealbreaker for me is Asik. His deal is too fat for my liking and he provides no offensive game whatsoever.

To me it doesn't matter who is better between Holiday and Thomas. One stays on the court. The other doesn't. I want the one that stays on the court.

[LarBrd33]

The Pelicans are going to have to give up assets to get rid of Asik. So eliminating all expiring contracts of the deal you want the C's to give up the best player in the deal (Thomas) for a lesser player with a worse contract and injury concerns (Holiday) AND take on Asik while they're at it. Awesome! Where do I sign?!!!

HOliday is better than Thomas on both ends.  Taking on Asik's contract was the reason why I am not including 1st round picks from our end.

You overrating other players/underrating our players is really out of control.

False.

It's not out of control yet?

You're basing your latest gonzo insult on the idea that Thomas is better than Jrue HOliday.  He isn't.  Period. 

Jrue is a significantly better shooter and defender.   Thomas is "better" than Jrue in the same was Antoine walker was "better" than Jermaine O'neal...  volume scoring aside, healthy Jrue Holiday is an upgrade over Thomas.

So then you're saying the Pelicans have 3 players (Davis, Evans, and Jrue) better than anyone on our roster. If that's the case, then why do they have the 4th worst record in the league? Your math simply doesn't add up. Kind of like when you said the Nets had 3 players on their roster (Lopez, Young, and Johnson) better than anyone on ours. Remember that?

You've struck out so much recently with your off the wall predictions/opinions that every time you post there should be a disclaimer that reads *CONSIDER THE SOURCE*. You have a long way to go to rebuild your credibility.

Ed im sure you said something in there with some semblance of sense, but I have a hard time reading anything you write these days.  You mostly just troll me.  Good luck to you.  Maybe someone else will bite.

Anyways, curious if anyone else has an opinion on this.   Widely believed that the Pelicans will move Ryan Anderson... he has a skill set we'd need.  Asik is still presumably a solid rim protector... taking on his contract will hurt, though.   Big win here would be getting Jrue Holiday for Thomas.  Thomas is a nice gimmicky player... a micro-Iverson.   Fun to watch, but he's a bad defender and shoots 41% with 32% from three...   His offense is predictable and probably is best served coming off a bench like a Nate Robinson or something.   Jrue Holiday, on the other hand WHEN HEALTHY (and that's the big issue), is a 6'4 former all-star.  Great defender.  Still only 25 years old.  Shoots solid 45% with 40% from three.   Absolutely an upgrade over Thomas.

It's not the sexiest of trades, but it would likely improve us.