Trade Crowder and Thomas as soon as possible/ The recent big 3

[Csfan1984]

The whole team including BS imploded.

[Beat LA]

The whole team including BS imploded.

I'm not sure I've ever seen BS implode, and by BS I mean bull Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. . What did it look like, lol?

[Ilikesports17]

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/01/marcus_smart_apologizes_for_la.html

I dont think this is a big deal.  I remember reading earlier that these guys take pride in holding eachother accountable.

Dumb play by Marcus, hopefully they learn from it.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Tired of these "leaders" These guys need to be trade to get the ball rolling, you can't win championships with these role players starting

They p---ed me off when they tore Marcus Smart down in front of thousands at the game and thousands watching.

Totally Pathetic , I wanted to slap Thomas and Crowder upside the head.

That's one thing you never saw with the recent big 3 champions. Paul Ray and Garnett never did that type of stuff, never embarrassed any of the teammates like that....They were hall of fame players at that point and

now you got two role playing scrubs like Crowder and Thomas who are getting starter minutes who in reality will never be nothing more than role players are on decent good team.

They can have their fun right now acting like they are something.


TRADE these guys for more picks or offer them in a package , Let Smart play 40 minutes a game and do what he has to do to develop

dont let these bootleg starters tear down the young players that were picked as potential future players.

Selective memory rules all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GXgFC8q32Q

lol not even close

Yes, Thomas didn't embarrass Smart by making him cry like a baby. I agree.

[celtics2030]

People look you and the other guy are just blind.

Its sad because you have been watching basketball for years probably and you do not see the difference of what happens.

Big Baby crying is because he wasnt strong enough to take the tough love treatment. Garnett did not make him cry. Baby cried because he cried.

Thomas was jumping around the court like a ridiculous fool, and Crowder came at Marcus with his hands cupped

Garnett would have probably dropped crowder right there and then.

Certainly after the game he would have gotten some type of lashing.

Garnett pulled Big Baby into the huddle, probably told him "why are you acting like F'n puss% , get back in here you Bi%%#, this is a team"

Thomas and Crowder cried like little babies at a 21 year old unexperienced player on the court and looked like fools.

[Csfan1984]

The whole team including BS imploded.

I'm not sure I've ever seen BS implode, and by BS I mean bull **** . What did it look like, lol?

Lol I just can't call him coach.
But BS has been a little slow of subbing guys this year. Think it's as others have said he is trying too much to be a players coach. Zeller needs to get back to form so we can be a solid club up front. BS has to get him back in the groove so we can take it to teams. In the first half we did great inside but bigs got tired. Zeller could have boost their play if he was in last year's form.

[celtics2030]

Tells Crowder and IT to "shut the F*** UP" and i dont blame him


Crowder needed to get decked and IT should have been ridiculed for looking like a little pansy.



Then you got FAT "ALBERT" SULLINGER , telling him dont do this, only if he could do the same hand gesture when they keep the food coming at the buffet.

Cant stand dramatic players that do that. I lose all respect for that.



https://youtu.be/W8vSdYfY6RI

[celtics2030]

Crowder even dumber for being at the three point line and not even going for a putback on that.

[Celtics4ever]

To qualify as a big three, I think you have to have 3 good players.   One could make a solid argument against that.   But Crowder and Thomas are not the problem.

Randolph killed us.  Thomas had 35 points on 11-19 shooting.  KO vanished.   We have a few solid players and a bunch of inconsistent guys.  Even Red could not coach the talent we have to a championship.

Has developed some assets but I do not think they are as highly regarded elsewhere.  JC and IT are probably two of more well regarded players.   

[howl1309]

I just watched the reply of the drive and the block on smart.  One major issue on this play was that none of the rest of the players moved into a position to help with a bailout pass.  Crowder was in the corner which Marcus could have looked for but why didn't Thomas bolt to the open space where Marcus could have found him for uncontested three? Everybody just watched.  This could have been the play drawn up by BS but doesn't the team need to react to the situation? Also if Crowder had moved to the left he defender would have to follow allowing more space for Marcus. 

The end result was frustration by Marcus. He shouldn't have tried to go and get the ball like that after getting stuffed.  Thomas and Crowder just wanted to win especially after the slump the team has been in.  Was their reaction justified? Of course not, but this type of thing happens all the time when the players care. 

[manl_lui]

teams goes on slumps, did people really think we're a 60 win team? Since the summer, most of us think the'y'll be either a .500 team or slightly above .500, which puts us anywhere between 41 - 50 wins. Well, we're still 19-18, and still the best record Stevens has ever got as a head coach with the Celtics.

Team goes on slumps, just mediocre teams building towards a contender are more to do so. If the GSW went on say a 3 game losing streak and is now 32-5, are they going to panic and make an emergency trade? I guess not.

People need to understand that we are still in a rebuild process, and it isn't going to take a year or two. And I think Danny and Stevens are doing a hell of a job. Not that I'm saying we shouldn't trade anyone, but this just seems more of a panic button trade.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I just watched the reply of the drive and the block on smart.  One major issue on this play was that none of the rest of the players moved into a position to help with a bailout pass.  Crowder was in the corner which Marcus could have looked for but why didn't Thomas bolt to the open space where Marcus could have found him for uncontested three? Everybody just watched.  This could have been the play drawn up by BS but doesn't the team need to react to the situation? Also if Crowder had moved to the left he defender would have to follow allowing more space for Marcus. 

The end result was frustration by Marcus. He shouldn't have tried to go and get the ball like that after getting stuffed.  Thomas and Crowder just wanted to win especially after the slump the team has been in.  Was their reaction justified? Of course not, but this type of thing happens all the time when the players care. 

Smart wasn't going to pass that ball. His frustration was for the lack of foul being called not because he didn't have a bailout pass. Smart's decision to try and score was made as soon as he left his man behind. It was a great defensive play with the Memphis players converging very quickly and timely.


This whole situation is on Smart. I mean, they just came out of a time-out and considering how everyone on the floor reacted I'm sure one point that was driven into the players of the floor is to NOT foul.

I think some fans around here have made deities of former star players for this team. All of them got on their teammates (and yes in the playing floor) at one point or another. All of them.

Smart screwed up, big time. Take ownership and move on.

[Tr1boy]

I just watched the reply of the drive and the block on smart.  One major issue on this play was that none of the rest of the players moved into a position to help with a bailout pass.  Crowder was in the corner which Marcus could have looked for but why didn't Thomas bolt to the open space where Marcus could have found him for uncontested three? Everybody just watched.  This could have been the play drawn up by BS but doesn't the team need to react to the situation? Also if Crowder had moved to the left he defender would have to follow allowing more space for Marcus. 

The end result was frustration by Marcus. He shouldn't have tried to go and get the ball like that after getting stuffed.  Thomas and Crowder just wanted to win especially after the slump the team has been in.  Was their reaction justified? Of course not, but this type of thing happens all the time when the players care. 

Smart wasn't going to pass that ball. His frustration was for the lack of foul being called not because he didn't have a bailout pass. Smart's decision to try and score was made as soon as he left his man behind. It was a great defensive play with the Memphis players converging very quickly and timely.


This whole situation is on Smart. I mean, they just came out of a time-out and considering how everyone on the floor reacted I'm sure one point that was driven into the players of the floor is to NOT foul.

I think some fans around here have made deities of former star players for this team. All of them got on their teammates (and yes in the playing floor) at one point or another. All of them.

Smart screwed up, big time. Take ownership and move on.

Well its on the coach to react. Not IT jumping around like a goofball.

When IT goes 5-20 maybe Smart should jump around too.

You just can't react that way. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

I just watched the reply of the drive and the block on smart.  One major issue on this play was that none of the rest of the players moved into a position to help with a bailout pass.  Crowder was in the corner which Marcus could have looked for but why didn't Thomas bolt to the open space where Marcus could have found him for uncontested three? Everybody just watched.  This could have been the play drawn up by BS but doesn't the team need to react to the situation? Also if Crowder had moved to the left he defender would have to follow allowing more space for Marcus. 

The end result was frustration by Marcus. He shouldn't have tried to go and get the ball like that after getting stuffed.  Thomas and Crowder just wanted to win especially after the slump the team has been in.  Was their reaction justified? Of course not, but this type of thing happens all the time when the players care. 

Smart wasn't going to pass that ball. His frustration was for the lack of foul being called not because he didn't have a bailout pass. Smart's decision to try and score was made as soon as he left his man behind. It was a great defensive play with the Memphis players converging very quickly and timely.


This whole situation is on Smart. I mean, they just came out of a time-out and considering how everyone on the floor reacted I'm sure one point that was driven into the players of the floor is to NOT foul.

I think some fans around here have made deities of former star players for this team. All of them got on their teammates (and yes in the playing floor) at one point or another. All of them.

Smart screwed up, big time. Take ownership and move on.

Well its on the coach to react. Not IT jumping around like a goofball.

When IT goes 5-20 maybe Smart should jump around too.

You just can't react that way. 

I have no problem with people who didn't like the reaction. My problem is the rationalization of "well the big 3 WOULD NEVER/HAVE NEVER done this" which is complete BS.

[droopdog7]

Is this what it's come to with Marcus?  He makes a dumb play, the others react and it THEM that have to go?  Everyone on the screen reacted in some way (telling you how wrong Marcus was).  Let's stop babying the dude.  No fault whatsoever to IT and Crowder.  At least they care about winning.

The OP seems to be motivated as much by removing those guys so Marcus can play more as he does by anything else.  Let the guy earn playing time and touches.