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Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2016, 11:05:57 PM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.
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Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2016, 11:31:44 PM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.

Add Embiid to the other three Philly disappointments if you must.

Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2016, 11:39:26 PM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.

Add Embiid to the other three Philly disappointments if you must.
Personally, no rookie or sophomore has disappointed me more than Marcus Smart... so I take offense to him being left off the list.  Freakin Boston always getting shafted in the press.

Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2016, 11:46:32 PM »

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Wiggins came into the league with high expectations. I imagine people expected a sophomore year similar to Durant or LeBron.

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« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2016, 11:59:46 PM »

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Wiggins came into the league with high expectations. I imagine people expected a sophomore year similar to Durant or LeBron.

Maybe the most casual of fans would've thought that.  The most flattering comparisons I've read involving Wiggins were to guys like Jimmy Butler and Paul George.  Those guys were both late bloomers.
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« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2016, 12:14:43 AM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.

Add Embiid to the other three Philly disappointments if you must.
Personally, no rookie or sophomore has disappointed me more than Marcus Smart... so I take offense to him being left off the list.  Freakin Boston always getting shafted in the press.

Well, this post about says it all.

Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2016, 12:17:45 AM »

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Smart has helped a team win games. That's more than you can say for the vast majority of the rookies and sophs. Even this year, his defense and hustle have made a difference. In that sense, he's not a disappointment.

But you want more than just defense and hustle from a top 10 pick. You want to see the potential to carry the team some day. Smart has been pretty disappointing from that angle.
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Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2016, 12:44:18 AM »

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Smart has helped a team win games. That's more than you can say for the vast majority of the rookies and sophs. Even this year, his defense and hustle have made a difference. In that sense, he's not a disappointment.

But you want more than just defense and hustle from a top 10 pick. You want to see the potential to carry the team some day. Smart has been pretty disappointing from that angle.
Yes, but if that is the standard by which we now judge rookies then we had best prepared for a heaping' helpin' of disappointment.
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Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2016, 12:48:21 AM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.

From the article, it seems clear the writer was focusing on disappointing young players on bad or underperforming teams.  That would leave out Smart.

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Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2016, 12:49:32 AM »

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When you're injury prone you're disappointing. Take Wiggins out of smarts draft class and it sums up the entire class.


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Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2016, 12:52:59 AM »

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Smart has helped a team win games. That's more than you can say for the vast majority of the rookies and sophs. Even this year, his defense and hustle have made a difference. In that sense, he's not a disappointment.

But you want more than just defense and hustle from a top 10 pick. You want to see the potential to carry the team some day. Smart has been pretty disappointing from that angle.
Yes, but if that is the standard by which we now judge rookies then we had best prepared for a heaping' helpin' of disappointment.

That's the standard by which I judge rookies we draft in the top 5 / top 10.  It's really important to make those picks count. Smart may turn out to be a really nice role player with a long career. I really enjoy having him on the team so far. But a really nice role player isn't gonna change the track this team is on.
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« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2016, 12:54:32 AM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.

Add Embiid to the other three Philly disappointments if you must.
Personally, no rookie or sophomore has disappointed me more than Marcus Smart... so I take offense to him being left off the list.  Freakin Boston always getting shafted in the press.

Better to suffer a minor omission from the media, than to endure the hardships that the poor fans of the 76ers are suffering. Lord knows how many records for futility that the 76ers will achieve this year alone. The 72-73 Sixers prior claim to be the worst team of all time is well within reach, but at least 76er fans can rest peacefully knowing that the title is staying in the family.

There are some that think if the Sixers put a slew of young players on the court together next year, some mysterious synergy will forge them into a potent brew of basketball prowess. More likely they'd look like the TWolves this year or last or the year before or the year before etc, for the last 11 years and counting.  As one wise man has said about the Sixers, the Tank is not over. He just doesn’t know how right he was.

Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2016, 12:54:54 AM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.

Add Embiid to the other three Philly disappointments if you must.
Personally, no rookie or sophomore has disappointed me more than Marcus Smart... so I take offense to him being left off the list.  Freakin Boston always getting shafted in the press.

Well, this post about says it all.

Don't worry about it, he's just venting because the Nets lost and their chances for the playoffs (cue Jim Mora) are fading.

Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2016, 01:16:09 AM »

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Why did you cut out the section about Marcus smart ?

Seriously, what enjoyment do you get out of rooting for the C's?

All you do is dog on the Celtics, while cheering on our division rivals.


No I don't.  I celebrate the parts of this team worth celebrating.  I never cheer for any division rivals.

Marcus Smart has been disappointing.  Considering he came into the NBA with labels of being NBA ready and with a floor described as Tyreke Evans... I don't know how you can look at an injury plagued guy averaging 8.5 points, 2.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds on 32%/21%/69% shooting and not say it's anything but disappointing. 

If they left him out of the article, it was an oversight.  That's not to say he hasn't shown signs on the defensive end (though his defense might actually be a bit overrated)... but an article pointing out Andrew Wiggins "disappointing" over someone like Marcus Smart?  That's pretty dumb.  Embiid, Exum and Smart should all be on that list.  Jabari Parker too, probably.  Maybe Smart isn't on there, because he ignored all the injury prone guys.
Great post. Not afraid to speak the truth.. every other player in the celtics roster can be criticized except Marcus, I'll never get that..

Re: ESPN's Most Disappointing Rookies and Sophomores
« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2016, 01:19:20 AM »

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I actually was OK with Smart's rookie campaign. I thought he would come back this year so much better and more agressive. There were rumors saying that he was playing injured most of last season, and he was just a rookie after all. As a sophomore, I just expected to see SOME improvement. He regressed a bit with his shooting. It's a bit sad.. guess I have to be more patient