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Would you take THIS deal?

Yes
7 (33.3%)
No
14 (66.7%)

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ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« on: January 09, 2016, 01:25:24 AM »

Offline Hemingway

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I want to see how out of wack people are on draft pick value

Celtics get: LBJ
Cavs get: Lee, Sully, Turner, all 3 Nets pick, 2016 firsts from Minny and Dal. and all the 2nd round picks that are not ours.



Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 01:35:27 AM »

Offline PhoSita

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Nope.


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Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 01:35:57 AM »

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No way but only because LeBron is up and he is fickle on resigning places.

Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 02:09:39 AM »

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Return Cleveland's favorite son Jared Sullinger. The Cavs would be all over this trade!

Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2016, 02:10:40 AM »

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No way but only because LeBron is up and he is fickle on resigning places.

For this hypothetical imagine LBJ would sign a lifetime contract and spend all his earnings opening free hospitals and setting up scholarship programs for boston kids.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2016, 02:22:46 AM »

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I would do it even if he would leave next year. Think about it, with our youth, defense, and coaching we'd run through the East no problem. Put Smart, Bradley, Crowder, and Amir around Lebron, and that's as lethal of a defensive unit as he's ever had. Put IT, Bradley, Crowder, and KO around Lebron and let him penetrate and kick, and that's as good of an offense as you'll see in the Eastern Conference.

Hell, given our defense and our decent matchup against Golden State, I say our team with Lebron has just as good of a chance as any other team in the league right now at knocking off the Warriors.

It's amazing just how much difference Lebron would make if we had him. Though I will say, he'd be an absolute perfect fit on our team given our philosophy and the range of excellent defenders we could surround him with, especially because outside of IT we have no other ball-dominant players.
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Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2016, 03:37:12 AM »

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and yet the poll shows 100% no.

The question could be, would you trade just the 2016 nets pick if it somehow guaranteed you win the next 3 titles? The answer on this forum would still be no. Because obviously that pick is going to be number one, obviously we will pick the right guy and obviously he will lead us to ring after ring year after year.

Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2016, 04:29:58 AM »

Offline Csfan1984

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No way but only because LeBron is up and he is fickle on resigning places.

For this hypothetical imagine LBJ would sign a lifetime contract and spend all his earnings opening free hospitals and setting up scholarship programs for boston kids.
I wouldn't need all that just he has to resign with us a few years. LeBron is still top three player in the world easily next two seasons.

Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2016, 04:49:32 AM »

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I want to see how out of wack people are on draft pick value

Celtics get: LBJ
Cavs get: Lee, Sully, Turner, all 3 Nets pick, 2016 firsts from Minny and Dal. and all the 2nd round picks that are not ours.



As written you expect anyone to answer anything but a resounding NO? 

Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2016, 07:05:26 AM »

Offline Hemingway

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I want to see how out of wack people are on draft pick value

Celtics get: LBJ
Cavs get: Lee, Sully, Turner, all 3 Nets pick, 2016 firsts from Minny and Dal. and all the 2nd round picks that are not ours.



As written you expect anyone to answer anything but a resounding NO?

I'd expect Ainge to take this deal 10 times out of ten. The best player in the world in his prime for a few picks? What do the cavs management and this forum have in common? They both would hate this deal.

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2016, 08:59:16 AM »

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Return Cleveland's favorite son Jared Sullinger. The Cavs would be all over this trade!

He is from Columbus, both in Ohio, both over a million but 143 Miles away from Cleveland.

Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2016, 11:08:27 AM »

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I want to see how out of wack people are on draft pick value

Celtics get: LBJ
Cavs get: Lee, Sully, Turner, all 3 Nets pick, 2016 firsts from Minny and Dal. and all the 2nd round picks that are not ours.



As written you expect anyone to answer anything but a resounding NO?

I'd expect Ainge to take this deal 10 times out of ten. The best player in the world in his prime for a few picks? What do the cavs management and this forum have in common? They both would hate this deal.
  You do realize that Lebron has a player option for next year?  Meaning he could walk and likely would after a half season rental.  You just traded away expiring contracts and a lot of cap space, 4 1sts(3 potential very high picks), and like 9 2nd round picks for a likely 4 month rental.  This trade would make everyone forget about the highway robbery the C's got from Brooklyn and make the Celtics and Ainge the new laughing stock off the league when Lebron walks.  Cleveland wouldn't look much smarter for having just thrown away a legit title contender but at least they would still have something to hang their hat on.  Like I said no chance any reasonable G.M. makes this trade as written.
 

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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2016, 11:27:01 AM »

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Return Cleveland's favorite son Jared Sullinger. The Cavs would be all over this trade!

He is from Columbus, both in Ohio, both over a million but 143 Miles away from Cleveland.
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Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2016, 01:39:59 AM »

Offline Hemingway

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I want to see how out of wack people are on draft pick value

Celtics get: LBJ
Cavs get: Lee, Sully, Turner, all 3 Nets pick, 2016 firsts from Minny and Dal. and all the 2nd round picks that are not ours.



As written you expect anyone to answer anything but a resounding NO?

I'd expect Ainge to take this deal 10 times out of ten. The best player in the world in his prime for a few picks? What do the cavs management and this forum have in common? They both would hate this deal.
  You do realize that Lebron has a player option for next year?  Meaning he could walk and likely would after a half season rental.  You just traded away expiring contracts and a lot of cap space, 4 1sts(3 potential very high picks), and like 9 2nd round picks for a likely 4 month rental.  This trade would make everyone forget about the highway robbery the C's got from Brooklyn and make the Celtics and Ainge the new laughing stock off the league when Lebron walks.  Cleveland wouldn't look much smarter for having just thrown away a legit title contender but at least they would still have something to hang their hat on.  Like I said no chance any reasonable G.M. makes this trade as written.
 

If LBJ wanted to come here and gave assurances that he wouldn't leave it would be worth taking. It's kind of a moot point because obviously the Cavs wouldn't make this trade.

Re: ok ok ok, would you take THIS trade?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2016, 02:33:01 AM »

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I want to see how out of wack people are on draft pick value

Celtics get: LBJ
Cavs get: Lee, Sully, Turner, all 3 Nets pick, 2016 firsts from Minny and Dal. and all the 2nd round picks that are not ours.

Obviously you believe the Nets picks are overrated. What do you think is fair value for them then? 7-9 years of a star's career (half of that in his early prime) is pretty valuable. It doesn't necessarily have to be Simmons or Ingram. The cost of that is time and uncertainty, which does seem to make a lot of posters here impatient and/or nervous. I do think that chances are favorable Ainge would not draft a total bust that early.

Also, in 2017 we technically have a pick swap. So trading the pick would mean trading our own pick, possibly leaving us without one that year. Just sayin'.