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Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2016, 02:30:58 PM »

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 I'm for it if we resign Anderson. Stretch four avg 17ppg 6rpg, we would need to add a rebounding and Defensive center next year though.

Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2016, 02:43:33 PM »

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I like Anderson, he fits a need on offense, and he's an upgrade in talent. However, it's a minor upgrade (especially if the HC would tell Sully to keep his ass under the arc) and Anderson's a UFA next summer. Given a market heavily skewed in favor of FAs, he'll likely get maxed at whatever level his years would dictate. I rather wait out the market a year a two and keep my powder dry to buy a bigger impact FA than overpay now. Our timeline to contend in the East is still 2-3 years away, so let's not screw up our salary structure now before we can take a swing at a bigger fish or two.

Re: Rumor Pelicans want sully
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2016, 02:45:42 PM »

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I have a feeling they'd try to dump Asik or Eric Gordon on us.  Not interested.

Eric Gordon is an expiring contract. Him getting dumped on us really wouldn't be a terrible thing. 15 a game and 37% from the 3 line wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to our bench, especially since the money comes off the books anyway.

But I don't think he'd fit in an Anderson trade anyway. That'd be around 23 million in cap coming towards us, Lee Sully Jerebko might work cap wise. Switching Lee's money for Gordon's wouldn't be all that bad since it clears up the log jam. A lot to give up for a threat point threat that can't play defense however. Anderson would be another nice piece to add to our role players on the bench but not much more.

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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2016, 02:47:01 PM »

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I have a feeling they'd try to dump Asik or Eric Gordon on us.  Not interested.

Eric Gordon is an expiring contract. Him getting dumped on us really wouldn't be a terrible thing. 15 a game and 37% from the 3 line wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to our bench, especially since the money comes off the books anyway.
After the last 2 games I am less opposed to adding asik. We have no interior toughness

Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2016, 02:59:47 PM »

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Let's do it.  Matching salary and a 1st. 

If you don't plan to overpay for him to keep him for the long term then trade him
you just want to make the deal so there's one less player ahead of your binkie Mickey that's keeping him in Maine.

I like Sully but not sure what NO has at this point that we'd want other Davis that would be worth trading Sully for.

I'd honestly take filler/expiring contracts just to clear up the front-court log jam.
I'm not opposed to clearing up the front court but I'd prefer to do so by moving our less-productive players  (Zeller, Lee, KO) rather than our best rebounder for yet another PF that is so-so on D (to be kind) that doesn't provide the level of rebounding we'd be giving up (especially since we wouldn't be recovering it from the players we have left).

Ryan Anderson is a nice complementary player to have but he doesn't fill a hole we have at Center, SF or PG.

Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2016, 03:13:17 PM »

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Sullinger would be another bad big man pairing for Anthony Davis. New Orleans needs a two way big man to play with Davis. Someone that can force opposing teams to keep their centers on Davis instead of their PFs.

I don't see the upside for Boston. I don't like their role players except for Holiday who we do not need. No interest in their two guards or one way bigs.

Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2016, 03:24:41 PM »

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Sully looks to be getting progressively worse as the season goes on; if another team is interested, we probably should take a chance.

I would be on board with a Sully, JJ, Lee for Anderson/Asik, Gordon swap. I know it doesn't do much for us, but maybe one of these guys resurrects their careers and becomes a solid 'sign' candidate in the off-season. All players are basically expiring so neither team takes on a huge commitment beyond this season.

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2016, 03:26:21 PM »

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I have a feeling they'd try to dump Asik or Eric Gordon on us.  Not interested.

Eric Gordon is an expiring contract. Him getting dumped on us really wouldn't be a terrible thing. 15 a game and 37% from the 3 line wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to our bench, especially since the money comes off the books anyway.
After the last 2 games I am less opposed to adding asik. We have no interior toughness

Asik seems hardly guarded when he's on the floor. I saw DeAndre Jordan walk like ten feet away from him on more than one occasion on New Year's Eve when I caught the Clippers/Pels game in NOLA. He would've been great with us a couple years ago but I don't like his style of play anymore, or his contract for that matter.

With the way the NBA is moving I think it's better to keep guys like Kelly around who can serve spot minutes at the 5, heck, Kelly can even be our small-ball 5 thanks to his shooting as a seven footer.
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Re: Rumor Pelicans want sully
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2016, 03:30:53 PM »

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I have a feeling they'd try to dump Asik or Eric Gordon on us.  Not interested.

Eric Gordon is an expiring contract. Him getting dumped on us really wouldn't be a terrible thing. 15 a game and 37% from the 3 line wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to our bench, especially since the money comes off the books anyway.
After the last 2 games I am less opposed to adding asik. We have no interior toughness

Asik seems hardly guarded when he's on the floor. I saw DeAndre Jordan walk like ten feet away from him on more than one occasion on New Year's Eve when I caught the Clippers/Pels game in NOLA. He would've been great with us a couple years ago but I don't like his style of play anymore, or his contract for that matter.



Exactly.  Asik is just too much of an offensive zero to work on the Celts' current roster.  The Celts are already a pretty poor offensive team (in terms of per-possession efficiency, nevermind their point totals).  Asik might help the defense, but he'd torpedo the offense.  Net negative.

This is why I wouldn't consider adding Joakim Noah to this team, either.  There are already too many guys in the rotation who bog down the offense.
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Re: Rumor Pelicans want sully
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2016, 03:59:35 PM »

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I have a feeling they'd try to dump Asik or Eric Gordon on us.  Not interested.

Eric Gordon is an expiring contract. Him getting dumped on us really wouldn't be a terrible thing. 15 a game and 37% from the 3 line wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to our bench, especially since the money comes off the books anyway.
After the last 2 games I am less opposed to adding asik. We have no interior toughness

Asik seems hardly guarded when he's on the floor. I saw DeAndre Jordan walk like ten feet away from him on more than one occasion on New Year's Eve when I caught the Clippers/Pels game in NOLA. He would've been great with us a couple years ago but I don't like his style of play anymore, or his contract for that matter.



Exactly.  Asik is just too much of an offensive zero to work on the Celts' current roster.  The Celts are already a pretty poor offensive team (in terms of per-possession efficiency, nevermind their point totals).  Asik might help the defense, but he'd torpedo the offense.  Net negative.

This is why I wouldn't consider adding Joakim Noah to this team, either.  There are already too many guys in the rotation who bog down the offense.

TP, Our defense is not our biggest issue although sometimes our players' focus could be better.

Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2016, 04:05:02 PM »

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I personally think the Davis + Sully pairing would work perfectly. However Im not sure that the return in this trade really helps the Cs. Ryan Anderson is a nice offensive piece but has more limitations then Sully (rebounding and D) so to make that swap plus trade a 1st for a high 2nd and lose jerebko is tough to swallow. Also to note this does very little to clean up the Cs big man rotation unless DA and BS really think they can give Anderson minutes at the 3.

I would be interested in this as a piece of a larger 3-4 team trade where the Cs use additional assets to swap Anderson for a player who is a clear definitive upgrade. 
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Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2016, 04:47:22 PM »

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Olynyk > Ryan Anderson.

Heck, Jerebko might be as well.

Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2016, 05:07:12 PM »

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Deal that works for everyone involved:

HOU receives: Morris, Anderson, Lee, 2016 1st from Boston (BOS or DAL, whichever is lower)

NOP receives: Sullinger, Tucker

PHX receives: Brewer, Young

BOS receives: Howard, Thornton
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Re: Rumor Pelicans want sully
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2016, 01:17:00 AM »

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Ryan Anderson would help the team with his shooting on offense, but his defense is too paltry to play him more than 24-25 minutes a night, so the problem of not having a consistent starting caliber player would persist.  Not really sure it's worth it.

If the Celts trade a big man, they should be looking to add wing depth, or trade multiple players for an upgrade in the starting lineup.  Probably not worthwhile otherwise.

yep. all the love for Anderson people seem to forget about the other half of the game.  the guy CAN NOT play defense.  and worse yet, even if he tried he has all sorts of foot issues through the years if memory serves.  if NO wants sully, great.  we want Tyreke. Sully and our own 1st for Tyreke and i'll do a jig for that steal.

Re: Pelicans writer wants sully (not a rumor)
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2016, 09:38:35 AM »

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Deal that works for everyone involved:

HOU receives: Morris, Anderson, Lee, 2016 1st from Boston (BOS or DAL, whichever is lower)

NOP receives: Sullinger, Tucker

PHX receives: Brewer, Young

BOS receives: Howard, Thornton
Great Idea. TP. I don't like Howard as a person but he is the type of player we need.
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