Danny Ainge Missed Again - Terry Rozier

[BballTim]

Wasn't it just a couple of years ago when people were posting:

"Danny Ainge missed again - Avery Bradley"

I don't remember much blow back on the Bradley pick. Folks freaked briefly while they trialed him at PG, before he league went small, and they realized he could play his natural position.

  Really? I seem to recall a multitude of "Avery will never be a decent nba player" posts before his play picked up in the middle of his second year. It was the prevalent opinion here.

[greece66]

It's far too early to jump to this kind of conclusions about Rozier.

Come back around April 2017.

[Tr1boy]

Without trading one of IT or AB, Rozier will never get a chance to develop properly

you can practice all you want, it's not exactly the same as what goes on in real games

Sometimes the crowed can light a fire under your game/help you focus. 

The same thing is going on with Mickey.   You have to let these guys "play" not just have them perfect the xs and os endlessly

[KeepRondo]

AB goes down and Roz can't get minutes.

Not looking good for him.

[loco_91]

It does look as though Rozier is #3 behind Young and RJ. Not a great sign.

It was an odd pick that I didn't love, but it's way too early to say that he's a bust. And the RJ and Mickey picks somewhat redeem it, as both players look like potential steals.

[guava_wrench]

Wasn't it just a couple of years ago when people were posting:

"Danny Ainge missed again - Avery Bradley"

I don't remember much blow back on the Bradley pick. Folks freaked briefly while they trialed him at PG, before he league went small, and they realized he could play his natural position.

  Really? I seem to recall a multitude of "Avery will never be a decent nba player" posts before his play picked up in the middle of his second year. It was the prevalent opinion here.

I also remember a lot of AB hate. There were a lot of people fixated on his dribble, mostly ignoring anything else he did. They also did not give him credit for his decent 3pt shot, though the percentages where there. Those complaints were pretty consistent from some, regardless of what position he was playing.

While there were a lot of vocal posters saying he would never help on offense -- even comparing him to TA's shooting -- a lot of us also defended him saying he was a shooter in HS.

[greece66]

Without trading one of IT or AB, Rozier will never get a chance to develop properly

you can practice all you want, it's not exactly the same as what goes on in real games

Sometimes the crowed can light a fire under your game/help you focus. 

The same thing is going on with Mickey.   You have to let these guys "play" not just have them perfect the xs and os endlessly

This is true, but do consider the exceptions too (eg Reggie Jackson did find his way despite getting very few mins in OKC).

Rozier has the potential to become the only pure PG in our roster. Even as an insurance he is a valuable addition.

The question is ofc if he can become something more than an insurance and I think it is definitely too early to say. He will be given playing time when we win by a large margin or when the game will be indifferent (eg games again heavily tanking teams after the AS, break), but IMO in his case we ll need a couple of years before reaching a verdict. 

[Tr1boy]

Without trading one of IT or AB, Rozier will never get a chance to develop properly

you can practice all you want, it's not exactly the same as what goes on in real games

Sometimes the crowed can light a fire under your game/help you focus. 

The same thing is going on with Mickey.   You have to let these guys "play" not just have them perfect the xs and os endlessly

This is true, but do consider the exceptions too (eg Reggie Jackson did find his way despite getting very few mins in OKC).

Rozier has the potential to become the only pure PG in our roster. Even as an insurance he is a valuable addition.

The question is ofc if he can become something more than an insurance and I think it is definitely too early to say. He will be given playing time when we win by a large margin or when the game will be indifferent (eg games again heavily tanking teams after the AS, break), but IMO in his case we ll need a couple of years before reaching a verdict.

Rozier is another IT part 2 but is taller and has ridiculous wingspan for his height. 

He has the potential to be better than IT on both ends, if not already is a better defender just by his physical tools

Something has to give and Danny has to make a tough decision sooner than later IMO.

I really liked what I saw seeing Smart and Rozier together out there in the SL games.   Both looked very comfortable , good chemistry. Played without restrictions 

[ssspence]

Wasn't it just a couple of years ago when people were posting:

"Danny Ainge missed again - Avery Bradley"

I don't remember much blow back on the Bradley pick. Folks freaked briefly while they trialed him at PG, before he league went small, and they realized he could play his natural position.

  Really? I seem to recall a multitude of "Avery will never be a decent nba player" posts before his play picked up in the middle of his second year. It was the prevalent opinion here.

I also remember a lot of AB hate. There were a lot of people fixated on his dribble, mostly ignoring anything else he did. They also did not give him credit for his decent 3pt shot, though the percentages where there. Those complaints were pretty consistent from some, regardless of what position he was playing.

While there were a lot of vocal posters saying he would never help on offense -- even comparing him to TA's shooting -- a lot of us also defended him saying he was a shooter in HS.

Guess I ignored it then. But Bradley was a solid consensus pick at 19, like sully was at 21. The warts were off at that stage and the risk was worth it.

Time will show that the Cs reached on Rozier.

[LooseCannon]

Without trading one of IT or AB, Rozier will never get a chance to develop properly

What if they traded Smart?

[kraidstar]

rozier is nervous in his first few NBA games and everyone thinks he will be terrible going forward.

i've watched him play live 3 times in maine, and he does everything well. and, no, i't not just because it's the d-league. a lot of guys in that league put up stats via volume, but don't make their teammates better at either end. rozier on the other hand actually looks like he knows what he's doing.

he just needs to calm down on the NBA floor. he is still in the infant stage of his career. he has the athleticism, handle, vision, and scoring ability to be a great NBA player. the high assist total isn't a fluke either, the guy has the potential to be a floor general, his body language is excellent.

i'll be very surprised of he's a bust.

[slightly biased bias fan]

rozier is nervous in his first few NBA games and everyone thinks he will be terrible going forward.

i've watched him play live 3 times in maine, and he does everything well. and, no, i't not just because it's the d-league. a lot of guys in that league put up stats via volume, but don't make their teammates better at either end. rozier on the other hand actually looks like he knows what he's doing.

he just needs to calm down on the NBA floor. he is still in the infant stage of his career. he has the athleticism, handle, vision, and scoring ability to be a great NBA player. the high assist total isn't a fluke either, the guy has the potential to be a floor general, his body language is excellent.

i'll be very surprised of he's a bust.

👌🏼 I remember hearing Ainge describing Rozier as someone who has the potential to be special, in all the years I've followed his career as GM I have never heard him say that about anyone before, thus I trust his judgement.

[Celtics4ever]

What if they traded Smart?

I too really think this could be feasible at some point if his offense continues not to improve.

[SHAQATTACK]

Without trading one of IT or AB, Rozier will never get a chance to develop properly

you can practice all you want, it's not exactly the same as what goes on in real games

Sometimes the crowed can light a fire under your game/help you focus. 

The same thing is going on with Mickey.   You have to let these guys "play" not just have them perfect the xs and os endlessly

This is true, but do consider the exceptions too (eg Reggie Jackson did find his way despite getting very few mins in OKC).

Rozier has the potential to become the only pure PG in our roster. Even as an insurance he is a valuable addition.

The question is ofc if he can become something more than an insurance and I think it is definitely too early to say. He will be given playing time when we win by a large margin or when the game will be indifferent (eg games again heavily tanking teams after the AS, break), but IMO in his case we ll need a couple of years before reaching a verdict.

TP ....good write up.

[loco_91]

Without trading one of IT or AB, Rozier will never get a chance to develop properly

you can practice all you want, it's not exactly the same as what goes on in real games

Sometimes the crowed can light a fire under your game/help you focus. 

The same thing is going on with Mickey.   You have to let these guys "play" not just have them perfect the xs and os endlessly

This is true, but do consider the exceptions too (eg Reggie Jackson did find his way despite getting very few mins in OKC).

Rozier has the potential to become the only pure PG in our roster. Even as an insurance he is a valuable addition.

The question is ofc if he can become something more than an insurance and I think it is definitely too early to say. He will be given playing time when we win by a large margin or when the game will be indifferent (eg games again heavily tanking teams after the AS, break), but IMO in his case we ll need a couple of years before reaching a verdict.

Rozier is another IT part 2 but is taller and has ridiculous wingspan for his height. 

He has the potential to be better than IT on both ends, if not already is a better defender just by his physical tools

Something has to give and Danny has to make a tough decision sooner than later IMO.

I really liked what I saw seeing Smart and Rozier together out there in the SL games.   Both looked very comfortable , good chemistry. Played without restrictions

Eh Rozier isn't really anything like IT. Most of his potential is on the defensive end, where he has great tools and intensity. Offensively he doesn't have any of the things that make IT so good except for the quickness. IT has a big big edge in shooting, handling, passing, decisionmaking, body control, etc. Rozier's overall talent level is nowhere near IT's - the hope is that he can become a similarly good player by being much better defensively and learning to use his tools on the offensive end too.