Marcus Smart's Weight

[Denis998]

 6'2" 227 pounds 10.6% bodyfat at the combine.

 That is too heavy for a PG, and his bodyfat is to high as well. He could be closer to 235 pounds now and if he his most would agree that's too much weight.

 It definitely affects his ability to get into the paint and his first step quickness.

 Now if we really need him to guard SF's then keep the mass, but he's suppose to be a PG and his body says he's not.

 Russell Westbrook
 John Wall
 Terry Rozier

 What do they all have in common.
 5.6% bodyfat coming out of the draft.
 Smart had almost double that.

 He does have a thick build but if he was shredded at 215 to 220 that would be ideal IMO.

That was nearly two years ago, im sure that number is more towards the average now.

[KG Living Legend]

 Dennis, what exactly are you talking about?

 227 pounds at the draft. If anything he's been gaining weight since he's getting older only natural.

[Rosco917]

Just going by the eye test, he looked a tad chunky. Could have been from the layoff. Loosing 5-10 pounds wouldn't hurt his strength, and could make him a hair quicker.

[jambr380]

Just going by the eye test, he looked a tad chunky. Could have been from the layoff. Loosing 5-10 pounds wouldn't hurt his strength, and could make him a hair quicker.

I agree - we aren't having a Sully discussion where we talking about a player losing dozens of lbs, but he could drop 10 lbs and still be at least as effective as he is now. Players typically get in awesome shape for the combine so I doubt he is in better shape now.

[max215]

in my honest opinion, he should not lose the weight. The reason why I say that is because he is physically stronger than probably 80-90% of the guards in the NBA. 6'4 @ 220 lbs, and I believe his bench press at the draft combine was absurd. He is very strong guy. Also, I don't think he's in our top 3-4 when it comes to offensive usage. IT of course will have the most touches and offensive opportunity than anyone else on this team. Then I see Bradley and Sully on top as well. Crowder is also stepping up his offensive game from the last 5 outings. I believe in another thread, Smart averages about 8 shots a game (someone confirm). That's not a lot, and he is still averaging almost 10 ppg.

I've seen him post up smaller guards with success and ease. And there are other players who are considered "too big" or "not athletic" for his position. Paul Pierce is an excellent example...besides LeBron, Pierce is a pretty big at the small forward position and isn't exactly the most athletic but still a great scorer. Someone mentioned Lowry, yea he lost a bit of weight but he is still a strong guard. Marcus Thorton whom a lot of people think he is overweight (I actually thought this is funny lol), is also another example of a big (or even out of shape lol), guard who can score.

His weight isn't also limiting his defensive skills so therefore I do not think his weight is much of an issue. If anything I think it gives him an advantage.

If there's one thing I beg of CBS, please use this more. He's got the footwork and strength to ruin any pg defender (ask Westbrook).

I couldn't agree more. Marcus is a bull and can get his in the post. I think he's already a skilled passer, so if he can perfect his post game and improve his shooting, he should be a very versatile offensive player.

[CroCorvus]

in my honest opinion, he should not lose the weight. The reason why I say that is because he is physically stronger than probably 80-90% of the guards in the NBA. 6'4 @ 220 lbs, and I believe his bench press at the draft combine was absurd. He is very strong guy. Also, I don't think he's in our top 3-4 when it comes to offensive usage. IT of course will have the most touches and offensive opportunity than anyone else on this team. Then I see Bradley and Sully on top as well. Crowder is also stepping up his offensive game from the last 5 outings. I believe in another thread, Smart averages about 8 shots a game (someone confirm). That's not a lot, and he is still averaging almost 10 ppg.

I've seen him post up smaller guards with success and ease. And there are other players who are considered "too big" or "not athletic" for his position. Paul Pierce is an excellent example...besides LeBron, Pierce is a pretty big at the small forward position and isn't exactly the most athletic but still a great scorer. Someone mentioned Lowry, yea he lost a bit of weight but he is still a strong guard. Marcus Thorton whom a lot of people think he is overweight (I actually thought this is funny lol), is also another example of a big (or even out of shape lol), guard who can score.

His weight isn't also limiting his defensive skills so therefore I do not think his weight is much of an issue. If anything I think it gives him an advantage.

If there's one thing I beg of CBS, please use this more. He's got the footwork and strength to ruin any pg defender (ask Westbrook).

I couldn't agree more. Marcus is a bull and can get his in the post. I think he's already a skilled passer, so if he can perfect his post game and improve his shooting, he should be a very versatile offensive player.

+1

[loco_91]

Smart has a huge frame, so 220lb seems like a reasonable weight for him. If he's actually closer to 230 or 235, though, I'd vote for him to cut 5-10lb.

I trust the training staff better than my own judgement on this one, though, and I'm sure that Smart will do anything they recommend. He doesn't strike me at all as the type to overeat.

[KG Living Legend]

 Yeah will he does strike me as the type to succumb to gluttony. Because we all can, especially when your rich now and not used to it.

 Not everyone is like Isaiah Thomas from the Pistons and eat chicken and fish for ten years.

[moiso]

I don't think Smart is the type of athlete to gain much quickness by losing weight. I do think however that he would lose a significant advantage with his strength if lost weight.

I think losing weight would hurt Smart's effectiveness on the floor.

I don't think he'd lose too much of a strength advantage relative to other guards if he lost 10 lbs.  Like others have said, his frame and neck are huge.  That's not going to change.  He's always going to be a very strong point guard,  but I think he'd gain a little quickness by shedding a few pounds.

[manl_lui]

I like to bring this convo back for a bit. Smart though still in minute restriction and probably given that Kobe is in a rapid decline but, I still think Kobe is a capable post SG, still has one of the best foot work. From what I can see in the game, Kobe can practically score on anyone he posts on, on our roster (IT, Bradley) but he was definitely having trouble posting on Crowder and Smart. Smart who is a bit smaller than Crowder in terms of height, was pushing Kobe back which I thought was impressive. I can count two parts where Kobe tried to post Smart, but no luck

[coffee425]

I like to bring this convo back for a bit. Smart though still in minute restriction and probably given that Kobe is in a rapid decline but, I still think Kobe is a capable post SG, still has one of the best foot work. From what I can see in the game, Kobe can practically score on anyone he posts on, on our roster (IT, Bradley) but he was definitely having trouble posting on Crowder and Smart. Smart who is a bit smaller than Crowder in terms of height, was pushing Kobe back which I thought was impressive. I can count two parts where Kobe tried to post Smart, but no luck

if Marcus lost 5-10 more pounds, he'll still weigh 10 more pounds than Kobe. No surprise Kobe struggled. Actually, I havent seen a guard be able to do it yet since he's been in the league. When i watched his 1on1 matchups with Wiggins in college, even Wiggins couldnt put him in the post.

[slightly biased bias fan]

I have always said that Smart should aspire to Gary Payton, in term of game translation. They are the exact same height and both began their skill sets a defensive guards. Payton only weighed 185 lb. in comparison to Smarts 220 lb.

I think this offseason Smart and the Celtics have to make a decision, do they want him to be a SG or a Pure Point. If Marcus wants to continue being a pure point he needs to shed some weight a la Lebron.

[manl_lui]

I like to bring this convo back for a bit. Smart though still in minute restriction and probably given that Kobe is in a rapid decline but, I still think Kobe is a capable post SG, still has one of the best foot work. From what I can see in the game, Kobe can practically score on anyone he posts on, on our roster (IT, Bradley) but he was definitely having trouble posting on Crowder and Smart. Smart who is a bit smaller than Crowder in terms of height, was pushing Kobe back which I thought was impressive. I can count two parts where Kobe tried to post Smart, but no luck

if Marcus lost 5-10 more pounds, he'll still weigh 10 more pounds than Kobe. No surprise Kobe struggled. Actually, I havent seen a guard be able to do it yet since he's been in the league. When i watched his 1on1 matchups with Wiggins in college, even Wiggins couldnt put him in the post.

yea, not only that, I do remember during the big 3 era, as big as Paul Pierce was, even he struggled defending against Kobe in the post sometimes (though I do remember game 3 or 4, in 2008 where Pierce blocked Kobe ). It may be a small sample size, but I do think Smart may afford to lose 5 lb and still maintain most of his strength. I do remember a lot of people here compared his defense to Tony Allen, but I dare to say, if Smart can stay relatively healthy, his defense can be better than Tony Allen...just my opinion.

I love seeing how Smart grows, unfortunately he was injured for 18 games, but I would love to see him continue to grow as a Celtic

[nickagneta]

 Dennis, what exactly are you talking about?

 227 pounds at the draft. If anything he's been gaining weight since he's getting older only natural.

This is just pure speculation. After spending a year playing NBA basketball, Smart could easily have already lost weight from the 227 and hence why he is listed at 220 by the Celtics and NBA.

There has been zero call from the front office about Smart needing to lose weight. He looks extremely fit and cut already.

There is zero wrong with Smart's weight. He just needs to learn how to utilize his size advantage at the offensive end as he has the defensive end.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I made a great thread about this exact topic over the summer. Marcus has the 2nd highest bf% for someone drafted in the first round as a point gurad.....since 2000. But the testing is iffy and Marcus is a hard worker, but if he could get down to 5% then he would be like a smaller lebron.