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Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« on: December 28, 2015, 11:55:44 AM »

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Not only is Crowder averaging 16, 6, 2, 1, and 1 on 48, 39, 79 shooting in December, but his defense has been stellar this entire season.

On NBA.com, you can set up rules to see what % defenders allow from certain areas. For Crowder, he was one of only 6 players to allow these percentages or lower: 0-8ft 53%, 8-16ft 38%, 16-24 38%, 24+ft 32%.

The other 5 were Taj Gibson, Jerian Grant, Draymond Green, Stephen Curry, and Klay Thompson.

He looks like a staple for us as a really good two-way player with elite defense. 

Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2015, 12:50:17 AM »

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Just from watching Jae drive at the rim, I wonder if his vertical is a bit underwhelming. Is it possible to learn/train to jump higher at his age? He is getting more like Lebron every day, but does not have LeBron's bully strength on drives, nor insane exploding jumping ability..
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Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 01:05:29 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 01:40:27 AM by Csfan1984 »

Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 01:31:47 AM »

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He's one of those guys I feel should retire a Celtic

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Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 01:50:49 AM »

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He's one of only 8 players 6'6" or shorter averaging 5.3 or more rebounds per game #BAEprecciation
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Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 01:56:27 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.
Or you know, we could keep him as our long term starting 3.

Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 01:58:14 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.
Or you know, we could keep him as our long term starting 3.
Nah

Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2015, 02:09:10 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.
Or you know, we could keep him as our long term starting 3.
Nah
do you think his high performance is unsustainable? That even at this level he's not a worthy starting 3? Or that we need a star and a 25 year old on a cheap long term deal who brings grit, leadership, and is a capable starting 3 is the type of chip that could get us that star?

Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 02:24:40 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.
Or you know, we could keep him as our long term starting 3.
Nah
do you think his high performance is unsustainable? That even at this level he's not a worthy starting 3? Or that we need a star and a 25 year old on a cheap long term deal who brings grit, leadership, and is a capable starting 3 is the type of chip that could get us that star?
Remember Sully had a good stretch too and people were toasting him. Crowder unfortunately will came back down to earth too soon as well. I'd love to be wrong but face it C's just aren't that lucky. Every time we think AB, IT, KO, Sully... ect is showing signs they will be big for the team going forward they hit a extremely dry streak and remind us they are just role players.

Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 02:31:56 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.
Or you know, we could keep him as our long term starting 3.
Nah
do you think his high performance is unsustainable? That even at this level he's not a worthy starting 3? Or that we need a star and a 25 year old on a cheap long term deal who brings grit, leadership, and is a capable starting 3 is the type of chip that could get us that star?
Remember Sully had a good stretch too and people were toasting him. Crowder unfortunately will came back down to earth too soon as well. I'd love to be wrong but face it C's just aren't that lucky. Every time we think AB, IT, KO, Sully... ect is showing signs they will be big for the team going forward they hit a extremely dry streak and remind us they are just role players.
I certainly wouldn't rule it out.

I think crowder is mentally stronger than all of those guys but nonetheless I think his shooting is unsustainable and a lot of his game comes from his "swagger" which he builds by knocking down shots. That being said I actually do think he will be at least a solid starting 3 for the duration of his contract.

However I must admit I too bought into the sully hype.

In fact I'm still kinda bought in. I believe when we play team like Cleveland and Chicago in the playoffs who have big time bigs I believe we absolutely need a big time rebounder and sully is the only one on our team who won't get pushed around on the boards.

Do you think we should trade sully at the deadline?

I actually don't unless we are getting real good value because I think he is absolutely key to our postseason success. I'd like to get your opinion on this.

Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2015, 02:38:22 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.
Or you know, we could keep him as our long term starting 3.
Nah
do you think his high performance is unsustainable? That even at this level he's not a worthy starting 3? Or that we need a star and a 25 year old on a cheap long term deal who brings grit, leadership, and is a capable starting 3 is the type of chip that could get us that star?
Remember Sully had a good stretch too and people were toasting him. Crowder unfortunately will came back down to earth too soon as well. I'd love to be wrong but face it C's just aren't that lucky. Every time we think AB, IT, KO, Sully... ect is showing signs they will be big for the team going forward they hit a extremely dry streak and remind us they are just role players.
I certainly wouldn't rule it out.

I think crowder is mentally stronger than all of those guys but nonetheless I think his shooting is unsustainable and a lot of his game comes from his "swagger" which he builds by knocking down shots. That being said I actually do think he will be at least a solid starting 3 for the duration of his contract.

However I must admit I too bought into the sully hype.

In fact I'm still kinda bought in. I believe when we play team like Cleveland and Chicago in the playoffs who have big time bigs I believe we absolutely need a big time rebounder and sully is the only one on our team who won't get pushed around on the boards.

Do you think we should trade sully at the deadline?

I actually don't unless we are getting real good value because I think he is absolutely key to our postseason success. I'd like to get your opinion on this.

Sully's value is too low to get much for. As you said he may help get you out of round one of the playoffs depending on matchup. That is more value than you can get out of a trade for him. When he was hot though it looked as if he could be part of a bigger package but that ship has sailed. Crowder is cost controlled, young and a hard worker he will be considered a good addition to any team in a rotational role. That has trade value.

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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2015, 09:44:52 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.

This is what is wrong with Celticsblog.

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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2015, 10:04:34 AM »

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If he can keep things up maybe C's package him plus other assets for an All star.

This is what is wrong with Celticsblog.
i could not agree more. tp. ONE MONTH of excellent production is great to have, but let's not have jae spend his spare time writing his HOF induction speech just yet, shall we?

let's, instead, just watch and enjoy what he is doing for the team for now. will he be able to keep up this level of production for 2, 3, 4 more months? i hope so, but i honestly dont know since he has no history of operating at this level for a sustained period of time.

i like crowder and was happy when the celtics got him from dallas. i did not think he could shoot well, but has improved, in part because of CBS system i think.

but let's not jump on this bandwagon just yet.

p.s. OP, why create a second thread instead of simply using the first thread on crowder?
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Re: Jae Crowder Appreciation Thread Number 2
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 10:10:12 AM »

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I don't think that trading Jae Crowder makes much sense. He has moved waay up to the the top of my keeper list.

He's not a top level talent, but he is the embodiment of the kind of culture that Danny and Brad are trying to build for the next Celtics contender.

He's locked up through 2020 for an average of $7 million per year.

I don't think there's any way he'll fetch more value in a trade than he has as a player for our Celtics.

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2015, 02:22:55 PM »

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I don't think that trading Jae Crowder makes much sense. He has moved waay up to the the top of my keeper list.

He's not a top level talent, but he is the embodiment of the kind of culture that Danny and Brad are trying to build for the next Celtics contender.

He's locked up through 2020 for an average of $7 million per year.

I don't think there's any way he'll fetch more value in a trade than he has as a player for our Celtics.

TP, TP indeed