willie cauly stein

[rollie mass]

would celts trade for willie and would kings consider it-

[Who]

Olynyk + Dallas 1st for WCS

I think that would interest Sacramento. Divac likes skilled bigs. Olynyk would work well with Cousins and would help open up Sacramento's offense.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Olynyk + Dallas 1st for WCS

I think that would interest Sacramento. Divac likes skilled bigs. Olynyk would work well with Cousins and would help open up Sacramento's offense.

Considering how his stats have dipped, I wonder if Cousins is regretting his call to play PF (or at least alongside another center)... else, it would be hard for him to accept this type of move considering he explicitly wanted WCS. His inside game is down, his mid-range is down.. the only thing that has improved is his 3-point shooting, but that doesn't off-set his reduced production.

Not that the decision is in his hands, but I'm sure it'll be part of the equation.

That said, Cousins has been starting in his center spot this whole month from what I've been able to see, and his production has been even worse than the rest of the year with WCS out. Not sure the reason for it though... but all I know that he's not at this usual.

[Irish Stew]

Isn't Cauley-Stein doing about what you would expect: 19 minutes, 5 points, 5 rebounds, 1 block, shooting 60%? You would project him to eventually be a double-double guy with 2 or 3 blocks once he becomes a full time player. Why would they give up on the 6th pick in the draft so early unless you overwhelm them with something like the Brooklyn pick, which I'm certainly not prepared to do but that's probably what it would take?

[BornReady]

Olynyk + Dallas 1st for WCS

I think that would interest Sacramento. Divac likes skilled bigs. Olynyk would work well with Cousins and would help open up Sacramento's offense.

Olynyk with cousins is actually a very nice pairing
As it helps alleviate some of the kings spacing issue

But I would be worried defensively for them
As WCS is their only true shot blocker

Anyway WCS is not on the trading block
Coach Karl and cousins like him
Plus there is no reason to try trade a recent lottery pick player so soon as he still has a lot of potential

[LarBrd33]

Basically Biyombo.  I stand by it.  People wanted us to trade up to draft WCS.  It made more sense just keeping our assets and signing Bismack for pennies. 

Biyombo = 5.2 points, 8.6 rebounds, 1.3 blocks in 23.5mpg (averaging 6 points, 13.6 rebounds and 2.4 blocks over his last 5 games)

WCS = 4.8 points, 5.2 rebounds, 1.1 blocks in 18.9mpg

[Irish Stew]

Basically Biyombo.  I stand by it.  People wanted us to trade up to draft WCS.  It made more sense just keeping our assets and signing Bismack for pennies. 

Biyombo = 5.2 points, 8.6 rebounds, 1.3 blocks in 23.5mpg (averaging 6 points, 13.6 rebounds and 2.4 blocks over his last 5 games)

WCS = 4.8 points, 5.2 rebounds, 1.1 blocks in 18.9mpg

Biyombo's career encompasses 5 years and 313 games played. Cauley-Stein's career is 1/3 of a season and 20 games played. It just seems early to me to compare them statistically. We pretty much know what Biyombo is. Willie is still a blank page.

[Celtics4ever]

Biyombo = 5.2 points, 8.6 rebounds, 1.3 blocks in 23.5mpg (averaging 6 points, 13.6 rebounds and 2.4 blocks over his last 5 games)

WCS = 4.8 points, 5.2 rebounds, 1.1 blocks in 18.9mpg

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare their rookie stats?

BB   5.2 PPG    5.8 RPG  1.8 BPG  on .46% shooting and 23.1 MPG

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6427/bismack-biyombo

I think they have similar skill sets and think it is an apt comparison.  WCS has more length and athletic ability though.

[Rosco917]

Olynyk + Dallas 1st for WCS

I think that would interest Sacramento. Divac likes skilled bigs. Olynyk would work well with Cousins and would help open up Sacramento's offense.

Olynyk with cousins is actually a very nice pairing
As it helps alleviate some of the kings spacing issue

But I would be worried defensively for them
As WCS is their only true shot blocker

Anyway WCS is not on the trading block
Coach Karl and cousins like him
Plus there is no reason to try trade a recent lottery pick player so soon as he still has a lot of potential

"Coach Karl and Cousins like him" I was afraid DeMarcus wouldn't like him, what a relief.

From what I've heard of him, he's a kind of immature, impressionable kid. I'm sure with Cousins teaching him the ropes he'll be just fine.

WCS needs set minutes playing center in the NBA more than anything, so he can learn the pro game. He'll never be a 20 point guy, but it's too early to compare him to anyone. I can see him maturing, and being a strong defender, a good rebounder, shot blocker, and maybe average 10-12 a game. He's very athletic, has great lateral movement, and is a real leaper. He just needs time.

 

[TheTruthFot18]

Basically Biyombo.  I stand by it.  People wanted us to trade up to draft WCS.  It made more sense just keeping our assets and signing Bismack for pennies. 

Biyombo = 5.2 points, 8.6 rebounds, 1.3 blocks in 23.5mpg (averaging 6 points, 13.6 rebounds and 2.4 blocks over his last 5 games)

WCS = 4.8 points, 5.2 rebounds, 1.1 blocks in 18.9mpg

I admit I wanted both (one or the other) as our possible center. I guess I have a thing for 0 offense centers who can block and look like a tree in the paint. 

[TheTruthFot18]

Olynyk + Dallas 1st for WCS

I think that would interest Sacramento. Divac likes skilled bigs. Olynyk would work well with Cousins and would help open up Sacramento's offense.

Olynyk with cousins is actually a very nice pairing
As it helps alleviate some of the kings spacing issue

But I would be worried defensively for them
As WCS is their only true shot blocker

Anyway WCS is not on the trading block
Coach Karl and cousins like him
Plus there is no reason to try trade a recent lottery pick player so soon as he still has a lot of potential

They did trade Thomas Robinson at the deadline in his first year. I know he's bounced around and got suspended for hitting JJ but to give up on a player that easily is questionable. I'd understand if the Kings were actually contending and wanted to keep chemistry in tact but instead they just threw away a top 5 pick after a few months.

[Big333223]

I'd love to add WCS. I know he hasn't shown much so far in his career but he's still a hell of a talent and I think he'd be a terrific piece for Stevens' defense.

That, and he'll fit in nicely next to Ben Simmons next season.

[CelticSince83]

Olynyk + Dallas 1st for WCS

I think that would interest Sacramento. Divac likes skilled bigs. Olynyk would work well with Cousins and would help open up Sacramento's offense.

Olynyk with cousins is actually a very nice pairing
As it helps alleviate some of the kings spacing issue

But I would be worried defensively for them
As WCS is their only true shot blocker

Anyway WCS is not on the trading block
Coach Karl and cousins like him
Plus there is no reason to try trade a recent lottery pick player so soon as he still has a lot of potential

They did trade Thomas Robinson at the deadline in his first year. I know he's bounced around and got suspended for hitting JJ but to give up on a player that easily is questionable. I'd understand if the Kings were actually contending and wanted to keep chemistry in tact but instead they just threw away a top 5 pick after a few months.

Oh God, T-Rob, what a laughable prospect.  Having been at KU when he was there can't say I didn't see that coming.  We have 18 year old freshmen making drop down passes that he still can't make at age 25.