"Go to scorers" in the nba

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Apparently, CBS think Jerebko is one of them.


Okay, I'm starting to sound like a hater. I really like all of our players and I hate for any of them to play poorly. I wish one of them was already a go to scorer when defenses buckle down!

[TheReaLPuba]

This is why we need to look at the draft to get our go-to-scorer.

No one is going to trade us their better scorers unless they have some irreparable flaw.

Thomas is a great pound for pound scorer but he's not the type of 4th quarter scorer you want in a close game.

[jambr380]

Some of these responses don't seem to realize that the list is just simply the top 50 scorers, in order, this season. Of course we could move players up or down based on who we think is a better go-to scorer, but this list is just a simple way to figure out who we might want to trade for based on their scoring ability.

As for the actual list, most of those guys are either unattainable or not really what we are looking for. I think we need to go for younger guys that may turn it on (Harris, Barnes, Batum, Middleton, etc) or try to hit on a draft pick. Teams aren't really in the market of trading their star players.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

This is why we need to look at the draft to get our go-to-scorer.

No one is going to trade us their better scorers unless they have some irreparable flaw.

Thomas is a great pound for pound scorer but he's not the type of 4th quarter scorer you want in a close game.

IT4 is a go to scorer in the 4th. I think a problem is that we do too much iso this season, last season it seemed like everyone had a game winner or hand in it. Now it goes to every man for himself lately. If they stop IT4 or ET, we don't send it to anyone else. When we do give other guys a shot at the end of games they are cold from rarely shooting or they have stunk shooting all season.

I want to see shot distribution lately. It's like we go to one player like 5 times in a row then to the next man for 5. It seems rare for a player to get shots spread out through a game, you get a cluster then move to the next man.

[walker834]

Some of these responses don't seem to realize that the list is just simply the top 50 scorers, in order, this season. Of course we could move players up or down based on who we think is a better go-to scorer, but this list is just a simple way to figure out who we might want to trade for based on their scoring ability.

As for the actual list, most of those guys are either unattainable or not really what we are looking for. I think we need to go for younger guys that may turn it on (Harris, Barnes, Batum, Middleton, etc) or try to hit on a draft pick. Teams aren't really in the market of trading their star players.

That is correct. I was just trying to show a list of who is out there who could be considered a "go to scorer"  After the top 50 scorers in the nba there are a few guys who could be considered that but more just an additional scorer.    It depends on what you consider that. Middleton is one of those guys though I saw after the top 50 but there really are like 5-10 guys ainge could maybe target.  I think you get what I'm saying at least.  He isn't going to target a player like James Young because why would he?  We already have James Young and he isn't a go to scorer yet.

I can pretty much go through that list of the top 50 and say who is a legit target for us too and there aren't many.  There are probably about 10 players or so in the nba Ainge could legitamently target that could give us an extra scorer and that's stretching it depending on what other teams want to do.

It doesn't look promising in other words but Ainge might be able to get something done.

[walker834]

The thing with Middleton is he isn't really an upgrade over what we have. He could be an extra scorer but with KO and other guys already struggling to get minutes it's kind of tough to say.  I don't see Ainge trading for Middleton although I could be wrong.

[CelticSince83]

I'd probably move AD down the list. He's a tremendous player, but not really great at creating his own shot yet.

He was 8th in clutch time scoring last season, shooting over 61%.  Pretty sure we can keep him in the top 10. 

[slightly biased bias fan]

I know he isn't a real 'go to scorer' but what about Terrence Ross.

What about this

Boston get: Ross, Johnson

Toronto get: Olynyk, Zeller, Turner

Ross is trapped behind DeRozen and Carroll and he will give us some much needed explosive athleticism and 3 point range.

Toronto get a hometown hero in Olynyk who operate as a floor spacer and an upgrade on Scola, along with depth at centre and a handy ball handler with Turner.

[Vermont Green]

The list is interesting but more than anything, illustrates how hard it is going to be to trade or sign a go to scorer.  I would say top 10 on the list are unobtainable.  Anyone of them would be an upgrade of course but I don't see how any on them end up here.

The next 10 are interesting with IT in the middle of this pack.  With a few exceptions (Carmelo) this group is not really all that great, or at least not all that much better than IT when you consider scoring only.  If we added one of these players without giving up anything, our team would be better but I don't feel it would elevate us all that much.

21-30 (30 is actually omitted), are for the most part as good as 11-20 but they just don't score as much.  Some of the players in this group may actually help the Celtics more than the second tier scorers.

This is not going to be easy.  It is going to require some luck.

[walker834]

Yeah it was just meant to show who can score in the nba.  Some players missing obviously. I'd like to get Chandler Parsons but seems like the Mavs want to build with him.  The C's to me are almost bettter off drafting a guy like Simmons depending on development and what not.  Simmons can be a real horse for this team although it might take him a bit.

I just listed the top 50 though because if they aren't on this list they probably aren't a "go to scorer". Obviously some exceptions for certain players.

A lot of guys on this list aren't even go to scorers or players we'd want because of their lack of efficiency, age, upside, fit, role etc..

In ways I think Cousins, Parsons. Maybe a guy like Butler etc. I don't see  Butler or Durant happening.  There really aren't many guys.  Why would we want Tobias Harris? Maybe as an upgrade to KO. But it's slim pickings.  There are certain guy swho we could upgrade KO with if he doesn't have the mental makeup. Anderson etc..  But I don't know.

[walker834]

Alex Len.  Another under the radar guy who can score.  Probably better than Amir or Lee.  I doubt Phoenix would trade. I just picked up Len and parsons on my fantasy team is why I'm thinking these guys.  Len could break out soon but who knows.  Meyers Leonard. There are guys like that but Leonard is having a nightmare season and seems like their teams are set on developing these guys.  jabari Parker is kind of the same thing.  A work in progress and I don't see him going anywhere. He doesn't have the range of a guy like KO right now.  I don't really see Parker as a fit.

Seems to me like the Celtics are going back to Zeller and he isn't the answer either.  We need someone there who can score. We have an assortment of guys but no one really stepping up.  Len would be a nice fit imo. KO is supposed to be that guy,  but he has been very inconsistant.

[Eddie20]

Alex Len.  Another under the radar guy who can score.  Probably better than Amir or Lee.  I doubt Phoenix would trade. I just picked up Len and parsons on my fantasy team is why I'm thinking these guys.  Len could break out soon but who knows.  Meyers Leonard. There are guys like that but Leonard is having a nightmare season and seems like their teams are set on developing these guys.  jabari Parker is kind of the same thing.  A work in progress and I don't see him going anywhere. He doesn't have the range of a guy like KO right now.  I don't really see Parker as a fit.

Seems to me like the Celtics are going back to Zeller and he isn't the answer either.  We need someone there who can score. We have an assortment of guys but no one really stepping up.  Len would be a nice fit imo. KO is supposed to be that guy,  but he has been very inconsistant.

Len can't score. Have you seen him actually play? They literally run nothing for him and all he does is set screens on the perimeter for Knight and Bledsoe. When he does score it's off garbage points. In fact, Leuer is a lot more polished offensively than Len.

[walker834]

I agree but just using him as an example.  Right now we have defensive stoppers and guys who can score in a variety of ways. Lee and Amir are veterans and Zeller and KO are bigs who can range out and have some semblance of inside scoring.  Crowder and Bradley can score but they are more defensive stoppers. Isaiah is really the only guy we have that is a go to scorer.  Bradley #2.  We need another guy at SF or Center or both who are more go to scorers. Len's upside is much greater than Lee or Amir or Zeller for that matter. Parsons is that too at the wings. His upside is as a more proficient scorer than what we have.

My opinion is we should draft, more upside that way,  or find guys like this although we dont want to sell ourselves short.  Like i said it's difficult to find the right fit.  But we are missing a couple guys who are more go to scorers to play ahead of what we have.  KO is a hope right now.  We need a couple guys and for KO to come through as that stretch 4 or find someone else.

[Eddie20]

I agree but just using him as an example.  Right now we have defensive stoppers and guys who can score in a variety of ways. Lee and Amir are veterans and Zeller and KO are bigs who can range out and have some semblance of inside scoring.  Crowder and Bradley can score but they are more defensive stoppers. Isaiah is really the only guy we have that is a go to scorer.  Bradley #2.  We need another guy at SF or Center or both who are more go to scorers. Len's upside is much greater than Lee or Amir or Zeller for that matter. Parsons is that too at the wings. His upside is as a more proficient scorer than what we have.

My opinion is we should draft, more upside that way,  or find guys like this although we dont want to sell ourselves short.  Like i said it's difficult to find the right fit.  But we are missing a couple guys who are more go to scorers to play ahead of what we have.  KO is a hope right now.  We need a couple guys and for KO to come through as that stretch 4 or find someone else.

That I do agree with, Len does have a lot of potential. He's very long and could be a solid player, but as a defensive player/opportunistic scorer type.

[walker834]

Len is like Zeller if Zeller were athletic. He can range out and shoot but can also score with his size and athleticism.  Zeller is a bit more crafty inside.  KO and Zeller are better shooters but less athletic and more crafty. How about that?

Len is a guy who has upside as a scorer.  Moreso than some bigs.  He is a go to scorer in spots but it's more having to find him and use his size and athleticism.  He isn't a post up player I agree. A guy like Biyombo is even less of a scorer and more like the jay crowder of bigs imo although even more defensively minded and less of an offensive player. Crowder can score.  We need better than that though.