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Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« on: December 09, 2015, 05:19:03 AM »

Offline Hemingway

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Any idea what the spread will be? I imagine the odds will be very heavily in favor of the warriors. I'm not going to make a bet because I don't want to get addicted to gambling but I really want to bet 50 bucks that we win and bet another 50 that we cover the spread.

I mean they have to lose at some point an we have pretty good D. I'm really interested to see what the spread will be and how that compares to recent games the Warriors have played.

Anyone here bet on the games? Like many of you here in 07 I knew we were getting KG a day or 2 before the odds radically changed. I wish I had made a bet on us just to make the playoffs followed by a bet on each round. I can't remember the odds but I would have made a lot. even if we had goot booted in round 1 in 08 the odds of us making the playoffs were so low that bet would have covered the other bets. would have could have should have.

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2015, 05:34:09 AM »

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Warriors are due to lose one at some point... might as well be against us.   We probably match up with them pretty well since our team is all about defense.  Bradley will have his work cut out for him.

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2015, 05:42:35 AM »

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I wish we had Smart to smother Curry. He gets up for elite pg's it seems.
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Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2015, 05:50:15 AM »

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The spread was 8 vs. Indiana. Given the minor injury to Klay, I'd say it stays around that for Boston game...

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2015, 07:41:12 AM »

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If Smart is healthy i will definetly do it, but well...

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 08:51:35 AM »

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The spread was 8 vs. Indiana. Given the minor injury to Klay, I'd say it stays around that for Boston game...
Game vs Indy was @GS. Home court + Klay and I expect to see a spread of just 4 or 5.

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2015, 11:24:31 AM »

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I'd be more confident if we had Smart, although now it depends on if Klay is out or not. Bradley on Curry. Smart on Klay. Crowder on Green. It would have been ideal..

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 12:34:46 PM »

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I'd guess 9.
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Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 12:37:01 PM »

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The spread was 8 vs. Indiana. Given the minor injury to Klay, I'd say it stays around that for Boston game...
Game vs Indy was @GS. Home court + Klay and I expect to see a spread of just 4 or 5.

Most of this is stuff is false guys. The game was in Indy they, are on a east coast trip. The spread for the Indy game opened at 5 and was closer to 6.5 by tip off. I never saw it reach 8 personally, and would have been really surprised if it did (an 8 point line on the road means they would be 14 point favorites against the Pacers at home and that is ridiculous, even how well they are playing). It was also right around 5 for the Toronto game. Given that the Celtics have been viewed as close to pick ems against those two teams on a neutral court, I would expect the line to open around 6 for this game (if Klay is healthy). If Klay is not playing I would guess 4.5. If the celtics beat or loss to the bulls by a lot, this could also move the line a half point in either direction. 

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 12:39:21 PM »

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I'd guess 9.

Curious if you ever do sports wagering?

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 12:45:19 PM »

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I'd guess 9.

Curious if you ever do sports wagering?

I don't know anything about it except what I hear Bill Simmons talking about on his podcast.

Honestly, I came up with 9 by subtracting the Celts' point differential to date (about 5.5) from the Warriors' point differential to date (about 14.5).

It's a game on the Celts home court so I think  you'd have to adjust a couple points in the Celts favor for that.  Dunno how you want to take into account injuries to Klay versus injuries to Smart.

I'm not a gambler.  Most I do any given year is fantasy football.
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Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 12:58:57 PM »

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I'd guess 9.

Curious if you ever do sports wagering?

I don't know anything about it except what I hear Bill Simmons talking about on his podcast.

Honestly, I came up with 9 by subtracting the Celts' point differential to date (about 5.5) from the Warriors' point differential to date (about 14.5).

It's a game on the Celts home court so I think  you'd have to adjust a couple points in the Celts favor for that.  Dunno how you want to take into account injuries to Klay versus injuries to Smart.

I'm not a gambler.  Most I do any given year is fantasy football.

I got into a few years back when my friend was doing it for a living. It is nothing like what the average person thinks sports gambling is like, just hours of him studying spread sheets and looking for mistakes and occasionally making to opposite bets from different books that net him a small profit regardless of the games outcomes (in some cases it isn't even what the average person would call gambling).

I learned a lot from this and occasionally dabble it. With respect to this game, in the NBA home
court is worth anything from 2.5 to 3.5 points depending on the team. This is the part that the average casual better doesn't usually think about (and it has been proven to be an accurate number for many many years. So if this game were in Golden State you would be subtracting 3 points from the celtics and adding it to the warriors. So with a number of 9 that means they would be 15 point dogs in Oracle. While what the Warriors are doing is unprecedented there would never be a line that high for a playoff caliber team like the Celtics.

For that reason it would really shock me if this got higher than 7 and probably would open a little lower.

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 01:00:08 PM »

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The spread was 8 vs. Indiana. Given the minor injury to Klay, I'd say it stays around that for Boston game...
Game vs Indy was @GS. Home court + Klay and I expect to see a spread of just 4 or 5.

Most of this is stuff is false guys. The game was in Indy they, are on a east coast trip. The spread for the Indy game opened at 5 and was closer to 6.5 by tip off. I never saw it reach 8 personally, and would have been really surprised if it did (an 8 point line on the road means they would be 14 point favorites against the Pacers at home and that is ridiculous, even how well they are playing). It was also right around 5 for the Toronto game. Given that the Celtics have been viewed as close to pick ems against those two teams on a neutral court, I would expect the line to open around 6 for this game (if Klay is healthy). If Klay is not playing I would guess 4.5. If the celtics beat or loss to the bulls by a lot, this could also move the line a half point in either direction.

I think that a good comp would be the Spurs in Toronto tonight.

The line opened at 6 and seems to be hanging there.

That money line opened at 8 1/2 - 9 1/2 and move to 11-13. Looks like someone pounded the Spurs.

Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2015, 01:02:28 PM »

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I'd guess 9.

Curious if you ever do sports wagering?

I don't know anything about it except what I hear Bill Simmons talking about on his podcast.

Honestly, I came up with 9 by subtracting the Celts' point differential to date (about 5.5) from the Warriors' point differential to date (about 14.5).

It's a game on the Celts home court so I think  you'd have to adjust a couple points in the Celts favor for that.  Dunno how you want to take into account injuries to Klay versus injuries to Smart.

I'm not a gambler.  Most I do any given year is fantasy football.

I got into a few years back when my friend was doing it for a living. It is nothing like what the average person thinks sports gambling is like, just hours of him studying spread sheets and looking for mistakes and occasionally making to opposite bets from different books that net him a small profit regardless of the games outcomes (in some cases it isn't even what the average person would call gambling).

I learned a lot from this and occasionally dabble it. With respect to this game, in the NBA home
court is worth anything from 2.5 to 3.5 points depending on the team. This is the part that the average casual better doesn't usually think about (and it has been proven to be an accurate number for many many years. So if this game were in Golden State you would be subtracting 3 points from the celtics and adding it to the warriors. So with a number of 9 that means they would be 15 point dogs in Oracle. While what the Warriors are doing is unprecedented there would never be a line that high for a playoff caliber team like the Celtics.

For that reason it would really shock me if this got higher than 7 and probably would open a little lower.

Sounds to me like 5.5-6 would make more sense. 

I don't think the Celts have the kind of shooting or dominant interior presence a team needs to keep up with GSW's firepower.


Still, betting aside, my gut instinct is that the Celts lose by a bit less than double digits.
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Re: Las Vegas Line for game vs GSW
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2015, 01:07:21 PM »

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If past experience is any indication, we'll learn a lot about how the game is going to go by the first few whistles. To give us a shot, Bradley will come out hounding Curry. The refs will have to decide how aggressive he's allowed to be. In my opinion, that alone could be make the difference between a close game and a blowout.