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Who is on the trading block and what can we get for them?
« on: December 07, 2015, 01:17:34 AM »

Offline celticmania

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Obviously nobody on this team is safe but there are a few players who I personally would like to see traded for various different reasons.  This team is pretty deep so we can afford to consolidate some of our talent to improve our weaknesses and maybe even give Rozier, Mickey, and Hunter more burn.  We need rim-protection, size in the backcourt and a little bit of shooting wouldn't hurt us either.  Here are some players who do not really have much of a future with this team who it would not really hurt us to trade depending on who we get in return whether it be picks, young talent, or proven talent.

1. Tyler Zeller- not playing at all this year, was pretty good for us last year, can be a pretty solid back-up center for a contender... solid 10 points and 6 rebound guy given minutes.. actually not terrible defensively.. we are pretty set on big men without great length or athleticism.. don't really see him in our future
2. Evan Turner- turns the ball over a lot, not a great shooter or defender although he is solid on that side of the ball.. without smart, he and Thomas are our only primary ball handler.. he makes plays so he could help a contender.. obviously not much upside left
3. David Lee- has been playing poorly all season.. complaining about minutes, is not helping us on the court at all.. turns the ball over/get stripped/ get blocked several times per game.. belongs on a contender not with us.. just another poor defensive, nonathletic big (Danny's favorites)
4. Kelly Olynyk- don't expect many people to agree on this but I am personally not a fan of his game... most foul prone player I've seen.. gets bullied inside... severely lacks length.. doesn't rebound extremely well and never blocks shots... good offensive player when confident.. would not mind keeping if we get a shot blocker next to him

Would not mind trading anyone on the roster at this point although I would prefer to keep:
1. Smart
2. Bradley
3. Crowder
4. Hunter
5. Rozier
6. Mickey

I like Sullinger but would not mind giving him up.  He can score and rebound when locked in.  Really skeptical about giving him contract extension. History of being out of shape keeps me from wanting him in the future.  I also like Thomas but he is so bad defensively. The other night against the Spurs he was absolutely abused by Parker on a few key plays down the stretch.  He is simply put a liability.  He is outstanding on the offensive end and is a great bench player but because of the amount of points he gives up is a team really better with him on the floor?  Teams with big guards will kill him in the paint.  We cannot win a playoff series where he is our best player or plays a ton of minutes.  I like Avery Bradley.  He is very very good shooter and can defend the pg position well.  Is not very skilled ie he is an awful playmaker and probably one of the worst passers and ball-handlers out of any starting guard in the league.  Does not create and often misses lay-ups on the move.  Best suited as a defender who occupies the corners on offense. Jonas Jerebko does not really do much. James Young obviously is not a very good basketball player right now but he is super young and can shoot.  I'd prefer to keep him but his upside is probably not high enough to make me upset if he is to be moved.

I think I have all 15 players covered.

Playing devil's advocate a little here.  Would like to hear thoughts on who you would like to be traded and who you would want in return.

Re: Who is on the trading block and what can we get for them?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2015, 02:07:25 AM »

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I'm pretty much with you but I don't see us giving up IT or KO.
We are going to attempt to build a defensive juggernaut with elite 3 point shooting.
I think we keep KO to be honest because of the power Brad has in creating match up problems.
When KO is out there it makes it so much easier for IT to get to the rim.
We are going to lose IT if we get some kind of great offer for him (top 10 draft pick and there's someone Danny really wants).

But yeah, I really wouldn't be disappointed if we decided to just keep a list similar to yours of:

Smart
Bradley
IT
Crowder
KO
Hunter
Rozier
Mickey

I love Sully but I think he fits better on other teams-eg he'd be a good replacement for ZBo in Memphis or next to Anthony Davis in NO. If we can keep Sully for cheap then I'm cool with that too.

I'd love to keep the above 8 and Sully (for cheap) leaving 6 spots for a free agent like Barnes and some draft picks.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 02:08:21 AM »

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Id put 6 guys on the block but I'd be looking for a 3 for 1 upgrade
1. Sully skilled and can do great as a 4th option but not very reliable due to fatigue and condition/back.
2. IT has good return value and we have Smart and Rozier developing at PG.
3. Turner he has good runs and seems like a good off the bench guy for any team.
4. Lee not much value other than expiring deal that could be bought out as well for a aquiring team.
5. KO he is pretty decent for a roleplayer.
6. Zeller struggling in a contract year. Pressure issue but young and a scorer.

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 02:24:51 AM »

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I feel like no one is safe as anyone can be had for the right price

These are the players that are more likely to be traded and my perceive value

Sully = mid 1st rounder + expiring vet contract
Zeller = 2nd rounder (not playing well this season but last season showed potential) 
David lee = vet player
Jerebko = vet player + 2nd rounder
Evan turner = expiring contract
James young = vet player
Bradley = late lottery - mid 1st rounder + vet contract


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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2015, 05:38:07 AM »

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I think we are looking at it the wrong way. Trading shouldn't be able who you want to get rid of it should be about who you can get, and in some bad cases who you need to get rid of. We don't really need to get rid of anyone. No one is a bad apple on the team. Maybe Sully if Danny and co have zero interest in matching offers under RFA. So we should be looking at who we can get. Unfortunately right now we don;'t know. Let's keep an eye on the Knicks, Kings and Thunder as they have the biggest stars that have any chance of moving, and lets hope that Ainge sees someone that is going to get a lot better and not valued that highly right now as he did with Crowder.

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2015, 06:19:30 AM »

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Quote
Sully = mid 1st rounder + expiring vet contract
Zeller = 2nd rounder (not playing well this season but last season showed potential) 
David lee = vet player
Jerebko = vet player + 2nd rounder
Evan turner = expiring contract
James young = vet player
Bradley = late lottery - mid 1st rounder + vet contract

I doubt other GMs would see it this way.

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2015, 09:50:17 AM »

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The core of this team is based on defense. Real defense is a rarity in the NBA, it's nice to have a group of players dedicated to it. It gets you wins when the offense is flat, on a certain nights.

Smart
Crowder
AB

Sully is a career backup center, he's unable to cover power forwards that are the least bit athletic, and that can run the floor. He's is an effective pickup center, why keep Zeller? If Sully can sign a team friendly contract, Zeller can be traded.

Lee is not in the teams future, he knows it, we know it.

KO is a tease, this is his 3rd year, we should be seeing some kind of consistency in his play. My patience is running low with "up fake" Kelly.

Amir is not a bad guy to have around.

IT is a nice weapon off the bench, I like him in short spurts. He's young and reasonably paid. He would fit well on any team, contenders included.

Turner, JJ, I look at as fillers, trade one or both.

RJ is a keeper, Rozier needs more time, Mickey has a lot of what we need, and needs time.

As for Young, if they don't see something in him by years end, he should be placed somewhere.

We have many picks in this years draft, we need some luck! Yes...good ole luck. Other teams get it, we're due. We also need to make some room for a wing that can scorer, via trade or free agency.

If this team could acquire a young, long, athletic, center, that can make plays on both sides of the ball, and a
wing that can score, and contribute on D, and let the kids we have mature, get a break in the draft, some dumb luck, we'll be in the hunt for a ring.     

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2015, 10:06:01 AM »

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I'm not a tanker ....

I don't want to make the team worse ......so Smart , Crowder , Amir and AB need to stay.


But Lee , Zeller , JJ , ET are expendable ......for assets

For the right deal...

I'd trade IT , KO , Sully, Rozier  towards a serious STAR .....like Cousins BIG to build around.


Need to stash away Mickey and Hunter .....not for sale or trade ......huge upsides.

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2015, 10:57:25 AM »

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Sullinger, probably for a lottery protected first and a second.

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2015, 11:05:40 AM »

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Anyone on the team is up for grabs if the right deal comes along to make us better, I would safely say we do not have any untouchables as far as the front office is concerned.

With that being said I think the most likely to be moved are

Sully
Lee
Turner
Zeller
AB
James Young

With these guys being available but their value not shopped

Rozier
KO
IT
Hunter

These guys either won't bring much back in a current deal or are a good part of a bench rotation to keep if we bring in other starters

Jonas
Amir
Crowder
Mickey

Least likely to be moved but will be if a big fish becomes available

Smart


All in that order.


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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2015, 11:14:41 AM »

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Zeller, Young, and Lee I believe, are the players we would readily trade at this moment. Lee's salary means we wouldn't really get an asset in return for him. Young might not be worth anything to anyone; I don't know.

Zeller might be of use to a few teams. Utah, Washington, and Memphis come to mind. I wouldn't expect anything better than 2nd round picks in return. I like to imagine that Zeller and Young could fetch us back a blocked prospect with a brighter future than Young's. That would be a good outcome.

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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2015, 12:12:37 PM »

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Jerebko has been awful, and is chiefly redundant in our rotation. Wonder whether there would be some interest out there.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2015, 12:21:43 PM »

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Anyone on the team is up for grabs if the right deal comes along to make us better, I would safely say we do not have any untouchables as far as the front office is concerned.

With that being said I think the most likely to be moved are

Sully
Lee
Turner
Zeller
AB
James Young

With these guys being available but their value not shopped

Rozier
KO
IT
Hunter

These guys either won't bring much back in a current deal or are a good part of a bench rotation to keep if we bring in other starters

Jonas
Amir
Crowder
Mickey

Least likely to be moved but will be if a big fish becomes available

Smart


All in that order.

I would think Bradley would be in the "least likely to be moved" category.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2015, 12:37:40 PM »

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Anyone on the team is up for grabs if the right deal comes along to make us better, I would safely say we do not have any untouchables as far as the front office is concerned.

With that being said I think the most likely to be moved are

Sully
Lee
Turner
Zeller
AB
James Young

With these guys being available but their value not shopped

Rozier
KO
IT
Hunter

These guys either won't bring much back in a current deal or are a good part of a bench rotation to keep if we bring in other starters

Jonas
Amir
Crowder
Mickey

Least likely to be moved but will be if a big fish becomes available

Smart


All in that order.

I would think Bradley would be in the "least likely to be moved" category.

Agreed AB is playing out of his mind lately and I believe this rate of play is here to stay.

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2015, 05:04:54 PM »

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Anyone on the team is up for grabs if the right deal comes along to make us better, I would safely say we do not have any untouchables as far as the front office is concerned.

With that being said I think the most likely to be moved are

Sully
Lee
Turner
Zeller
AB
James Young

With these guys being available but their value not shopped

Rozier
KO
IT
Hunter

These guys either won't bring much back in a current deal or are a good part of a bench rotation to keep if we bring in other starters

Jonas
Amir
Crowder
Mickey

Least likely to be moved but will be if a big fish becomes available

Smart


All in that order.

I would think Bradley would be in the "least likely to be moved" category.

Agreed AB is playing out of his mind lately and I believe this rate of play is here to stay.

I see it as the his value has never been and won't get any higher category. Trade him while he's up. A bargain contract, to most people, with the new cap spike. He could be a nice package that nets us the star player we've been looking for when that player becomes available.