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Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #105 on: December 10, 2015, 10:31:39 AM »

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Did anyone see the Jazz vs Kings game?

Cousins fouled out. On his 6th foul he had a mini tantrum after basically sawing Trevor Booker's arm off. Throwing his hands around, scolding the ref and whining. The Kings commentators were like :
" DeMarcus Cousins just doesn't seem to understand when he's fouling people...he clearly fouled Booker and is still questioning the decision".

The worst part about this was that the Kings had a really good win vs the Jazz, and they were up by 9 points with 31 seconds remaining when Cousins fouled out.
Rather than celebrate his team's great win, Cousins decided to mope to the bench, put his head down and complain to whoever would listen about a BS foul.

This guy is criminally selfish/immature.
Please go and watch the footage if you have League pass.Happens with 31 seconds left in the 4th quarter.

Side note: Rondo had an awesome game. 17 points 13 assists.

I haven't seen it but it sounds spot on to me!

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #106 on: December 10, 2015, 11:04:58 AM »

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The team Cousins is on now is built entirely around him and can't function without him. Not necessarily because of him but because the team is put together poorly and can't deal with the removal of their key component.

I'm not sure that any team is built to thrive without its superstar. Look how bad the Cavs looked last night without Lebron. Is Lebron's impact somehow lessened, because his team sucks without him? That seems counterintuitive to me.

As for the team being built around Cousins, is that true? He's a dominant, dynamic post center. The recipe for that is surrounding that center with a bunch of floor spacers. Instead, DMC is taken out of the post, because none of Rondo, Koufus / WCS, or Gay can shoot consistently.  In a lot of ways, the Kings are built in a way that totally ignores the strengths of their best player.

Boogie was ideal on a Mike Malone team. Let him be a defensive anchor and feed him in the post. Ownership didn't want that, and now Cousins is being asked to play a completely different style. Despite 3 coaches in one year and a poor-fitting roster, he's thriving. Imagine if he had some stability?

Imagine if he was mentally stable? ;)

Imagine if Kevin Garnett was mentally stable?

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #107 on: December 10, 2015, 11:30:47 AM »

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^ An NBA player complained about a foul?! I'm shocked.

I'm more interested in the 23 points, 12 rebounds and 6 assists in a win over a quality opponent

By the way, Cousins has two techs on the season. I bet you wouldn't want any of the guys on this list:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/fouls/sort/technicalFouls
NBA player more concerned about a personal foul than a team victory.

That's a ridiculous contention. The game was already over, with the Kings winning handily.

To say that Cousins doesn't care about winning has zero basis in reality.
Exactly, the game was almost over and the Kings played very well yet Cousins was thinking about how he perceived himself as being wronged.  Nothing new there.

Paul Pierce must have been the most selfish loser of all-time then, because he did worse in the playoffs.

My guess is that if he'd celebrated, you guys would be giving him hell for celebrating regular season wins.

This 100%.

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #108 on: December 10, 2015, 11:39:48 AM »

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Paul Pierce may have been a sore loser, but he was never as unstable as Cousins (yes, even considering the head wrap incident). There is a difference between an isolated incident and a pattern of bizarre behavior. Come on, folks.
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« Reply #109 on: December 10, 2015, 12:42:23 PM »

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More importantly than his attitude - what's with Cousins shooting 41% from the field? Yikes.

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #110 on: December 10, 2015, 12:53:33 PM »

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Dennis Rodman was a terrible rebounder and such a lazy defender. His off the court and on the court mental instability really takes away from everything he could have accomplished. He probably could have won, oh man...at least 5 championships.

If only he didn't have a temper, act out, pout and whine, beat people up, and get in trouble with the law...He probably could have been a hall of famer too.

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #111 on: December 10, 2015, 12:57:18 PM »

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More importantly than his attitude - what's with Cousins shooting 41% from the field? Yikes.
He's now taking 4  threes a game at 31%. That's mostly what it is.
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« Reply #112 on: December 10, 2015, 04:13:07 PM »

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Dennis Rodman was a terrible rebounder and such a lazy defender. His off the court and on the court mental instability really takes away from everything he could have accomplished. He probably could have won, oh man...at least 5 championships.

If only he didn't have a temper, act out, pout and whine, beat people up, and get in trouble with the law...He probably could have been a hall of famer too.
He never was required to be a leader, he always had to be led.  And spoonfed a lot of the time. On another note, I love the deflection that goes on when Cousins name comes up.  Some posters don't allow themselves to process what's going on with Cousins.  They just deflect and bring up other players that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #113 on: December 10, 2015, 04:30:25 PM »

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Dennis Rodman was a terrible rebounder and such a lazy defender. His off the court and on the court mental instability really takes away from everything he could have accomplished. He probably could have won, oh man...at least 5 championships.

If only he didn't have a temper, act out, pout and whine, beat people up, and get in trouble with the law...He probably could have been a hall of famer too.
He never was required to be a leader, he always had to be led.  And spoonfed a lot of the time. On another note, I love the deflection that goes on when Cousins name comes up.  Some posters don't allow themselves to process what's going on with Cousins.  They just deflect and bring up other players that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It's not deflecting if you are pointing out the hypocrisy of hyper-focusing on one player's faults while  ignoring those faults in others. Critics complain about DMC throwing elbows, while ignoring the same elbows thrown by KG. They chastise him for his technical fouls while ignoring that Griffin, Westbrook and Durant are consistently among the league leaders.they focus on his lack of winning, well ignoring that all of KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce led their teams deep into the lottery.

One man's deflection is another man's call for consistency.


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Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #114 on: December 10, 2015, 04:37:14 PM »

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It's not deflecting if you are pointing out the hypocrisy of hyper-focusing on one player's faults while  ignoring those faults in others. Critics complain about DMC throwing elbows, while ignoring the same elbows thrown by KG. They chastise him for his technical fouls while ignoring that Griffin, Westbrook and Durant are consistently among the league leaders.they focus on his lack of winning, well ignoring that all of KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce led their teams deep into the lottery.
We're not talking about KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. We're talking about Cousins. The fact that Cousins is a  train wreck is by no means mitigated by the fact that someone like Zach Randolph did great in Memphis.
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Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #115 on: December 10, 2015, 04:37:18 PM »

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Dennis Rodman was a terrible rebounder and such a lazy defender. His off the court and on the court mental instability really takes away from everything he could have accomplished. He probably could have won, oh man...at least 5 championships.

If only he didn't have a temper, act out, pout and whine, beat people up, and get in trouble with the law...He probably could have been a hall of famer too.
He never was required to be a leader, he always had to be led.  And spoonfed a lot of the time. On another note, I love the deflection that goes on when Cousins name comes up.  Some posters don't allow themselves to process what's going on with Cousins.  They just deflect and bring up other players that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It's not deflecting if you are pointing out the hypocrisy of hyper-focusing on one player's faults while  ignoring those faults in others. Critics complain about DMC throwing elbows, while ignoring the same elbows thrown by KG. They chastise him for his technical fouls while ignoring that Griffin, Westbrook and Durant are consistently among the league leaders.they focus on his lack of winning, well ignoring that all of KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce led their teams deep into the lottery.

One man's deflection is another man's call for consistency.

Again, This.

And why does Demarcus automatically get the label of a leader? Are you "deflecting" the fact that he might not be. Like Roy has mentioned many times, if you put Demarcus in a stable franchise or situation that has great management/leadership he is going to flourish. He has the talent, he needs to be led or maybe have things "spoonfed" to him as you so put it.

So thank you for trying to call my "deflecting" post out. By chiming in your thoughts on Rodman, you've proved the exact point I, and many others, am making about Cousins. Thank you for trying to "deflect" my point.

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #116 on: December 10, 2015, 04:47:10 PM »

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It's not deflecting if you are pointing out the hypocrisy of hyper-focusing on one player's faults while  ignoring those faults in others. Critics complain about DMC throwing elbows, while ignoring the same elbows thrown by KG. They chastise him for his technical fouls while ignoring that Griffin, Westbrook and Durant are consistently among the league leaders.they focus on his lack of winning, well ignoring that all of KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce led their teams deep into the lottery.
We're not talking about KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. We're talking about Cousins. The fact that Cousins is a  train wreck is by no means mitigated by the fact that someone like Zach Randolph did great in Memphis.

How is the fact that Zach Randolph was a train wreck in Portland under terrible unstable management and influence before going to Memphis not at all comparable to what's going on with Cousins in a train wreck situation in Sacramento?

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« Reply #117 on: December 10, 2015, 04:54:10 PM »

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How is the fact that Zach Randolph was a train wreck in Portland under terrible unstable management and influence before going to Memphis not at all comparable to what's going on with Cousins in a train wreck situation in Sacramento?
Because DeMarcus Cousins is not Zach Randolph?
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« Reply #118 on: December 10, 2015, 04:58:08 PM »

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Dennis Rodman was a terrible rebounder and such a lazy defender. His off the court and on the court mental instability really takes away from everything he could have accomplished. He probably could have won, oh man...at least 5 championships.

If only he didn't have a temper, act out, pout and whine, beat people up, and get in trouble with the law...He probably could have been a hall of famer too.
He never was required to be a leader, he always had to be led.  And spoonfed a lot of the time. On another note, I love the deflection that goes on when Cousins name comes up.  Some posters don't allow themselves to process what's going on with Cousins.  They just deflect and bring up other players that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It's not deflecting if you are pointing out the hypocrisy of hyper-focusing on one player's faults while  ignoring those faults in others. Critics complain about DMC throwing elbows, while ignoring the same elbows thrown by KG. They chastise him for his technical fouls while ignoring that Griffin, Westbrook and Durant are consistently among the league leaders.they focus on his lack of winning, well ignoring that all of KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce led their teams deep into the lottery.

One man's deflection is another man's call for consistency.

huh ?

KG,Ray and PP all were in multiple playoffs series' and had all led their teams to conference finals by the time they joined up .

Cousins on the other hand has yet to lead his team to even 30 wins ....

Re: Cousins is a dog
« Reply #119 on: December 10, 2015, 05:17:52 PM »

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Dennis Rodman was a terrible rebounder and such a lazy defender. His off the court and on the court mental instability really takes away from everything he could have accomplished. He probably could have won, oh man...at least 5 championships.

If only he didn't have a temper, act out, pout and whine, beat people up, and get in trouble with the law...He probably could have been a hall of famer too.
He never was required to be a leader, he always had to be led.  And spoonfed a lot of the time. On another note, I love the deflection that goes on when Cousins name comes up.  Some posters don't allow themselves to process what's going on with Cousins.  They just deflect and bring up other players that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It's not deflecting if you are pointing out the hypocrisy of hyper-focusing on one player's faults while  ignoring those faults in others. Critics complain about DMC throwing elbows, while ignoring the same elbows thrown by KG. They chastise him for his technical fouls while ignoring that Griffin, Westbrook and Durant are consistently among the league leaders.they focus on his lack of winning, well ignoring that all of KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce led their teams deep into the lottery.

One man's deflection is another man's call for consistency.

huh ?

KG,Ray and PP all were in multiple playoffs series' and had all led their teams to conference finals by the time they joined up .

Cousins on the other hand has yet to lead his team to even 30 wins ....


So?

If great players are supposed to lead their teams to winning records, then KG, Pierce, and Ray all must not have been great players immediately prior to 2008.


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