With the Clippers looking to shake it up...

[TheSundanceKid]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hugl5ft

Clippers receive: Ryan Anderson
Clippers trade: JJ Redick

Boston receives: JJ Redick
Boston trades: David Lee

NO receives: David Lee, DAL 1st pick
NO trades: Ryan Anderson

This trade really opens up after Dec 14th when you can add in some filler. NO probably need a little more to make this deal work. Say we give them Zeller, they send Cole to LA and we get Wilcox? Or just give them Young and take back Cole

We get a starting SG who gives us a 3 point threat and a much needed offensive boost to the starting lineup.
LA receive a back up big man which is really their weakness. They have Crawford and Stephenson to pick up the empty minutes from Redick.
NO do this for the pick and maybe for Zeller/Young if it interests them. This season doesn't look good for them and they need a bit of a re-tool to build around AD, he's locked in long term so taking a step back this year to build better long term isn't a bad thing.

Trades with this many parts are difficult to complete, but what do you think?

Edit: Forgot to write in Pondexter to C's. After Dec 14th when the trading season opens up, you can replace him with Cole.

[RockinRyA]

add another undersized guard to our guard heavy lineup?

[TheSundanceKid]

I think the recent injuries to Smart and Bradley have shown that our guard line up is "heavy" in number only, not in depth of skill.

[moiso]

Good trade proposal but I like it a lot more for the other two teams.  I like Redick a lot.  He's a definite starter, not a tweaner, plays defense, shoots, and makes plays for teammates.  If Ainge truly wants to win as much as possible this year it's a good deal.
But with Bradley playing like he has been, Redick's age, the fact that we have to give up a mid first round pick, I don't think I would pull the trigger on this one.  I'd prefer to save the pick for a bigger fish and continue to work on player development. 

[konkmv]

No? A sf or center please?

[Csfan1984]

Not much of a player to give up a pick for. Pass

[saltlover]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least one extra player, and probably more, to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players should be added and which we should drop.

[Moranis]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4.5 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least two extra players to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players we should drop.

um, it works on trade machine (though it adds Pondexter who isn't in the text here), which means it works within the confines of the rules of the NBA.  Boston picks up a fairly good sized trade exception, which is an added bonus in the trade.

[TheSundanceKid]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4.5 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least two extra players to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players we should drop.

The trade as stated works on the trade machine, not sure what you mean? If you add Zeller or Young to the trade then yes they would need to send out more salary.

Good trade proposal but I like it a lot more for the other two teams.  I like Redick a lot.  He's a definite starter, not a tweaner, plays defense, shoots, and makes plays for teammates.  If Ainge truly wants to win as much as possible this year it's a good deal.
But with Bradley playing like he has been, Redick's age, the fact that we have to give up a mid first round pick, I don't think I would pull the trigger on this one.  I'd prefer to save the pick for a bigger fish and continue to work on player development. 

True, there is a bit of duplication here and we don't solve a positional need. It's the 3 point prowess that I make the trade for.

[saltlover]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4.5 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least two extra players to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players we should drop.

The trade as stated works on the trade machine, not sure what you mean? If you add Zeller or Young to the trade then yes they would need to send out more salary.

Good trade proposal but I like it a lot more for the other two teams.  I like Redick a lot.  He's a definite starter, not a tweaner, plays defense, shoots, and makes plays for teammates.  If Ainge truly wants to win as much as possible this year it's a good deal.
But with Bradley playing like he has been, Redick's age, the fact that we have to give up a mid first round pick, I don't think I would pull the trigger on this one.  I'd prefer to save the pick for a bigger fish and continue to work on player development. 

True, there is a bit of duplication here and we don't solve a positional need. It's the 3 point prowess that I make the trade for.

Then trade machine is broken.  David Lee makes $15.5 million.  Ryan Anderson makes $8.5 million.  Those don't match at all.

[tazzmaniac]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4.5 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least two extra players to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players we should drop.

The trade as stated works on the trade machine, not sure what you mean? If you add Zeller or Young to the trade then yes they would need to send out more salary.

Good trade proposal but I like it a lot more for the other two teams.  I like Redick a lot.  He's a definite starter, not a tweaner, plays defense, shoots, and makes plays for teammates.  If Ainge truly wants to win as much as possible this year it's a good deal.
But with Bradley playing like he has been, Redick's age, the fact that we have to give up a mid first round pick, I don't think I would pull the trigger on this one.  I'd prefer to save the pick for a bigger fish and continue to work on player development. 

True, there is a bit of duplication here and we don't solve a positional need. It's the 3 point prowess that I make the trade for.

Then trade machine is broken.  David Lee makes $15.5 million.  Ryan Anderson makes $8.5 million.  Those don't match at all.

In the trade machine, it looks like the OP included Quincy Pondexter to make the salaries work.   

[saltlover]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4.5 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least two extra players to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players we should drop.

The trade as stated works on the trade machine, not sure what you mean? If you add Zeller or Young to the trade then yes they would need to send out more salary.

Good trade proposal but I like it a lot more for the other two teams.  I like Redick a lot.  He's a definite starter, not a tweaner, plays defense, shoots, and makes plays for teammates.  If Ainge truly wants to win as much as possible this year it's a good deal.
But with Bradley playing like he has been, Redick's age, the fact that we have to give up a mid first round pick, I don't think I would pull the trigger on this one.  I'd prefer to save the pick for a bigger fish and continue to work on player development. 

True, there is a bit of duplication here and we don't solve a positional need. It's the 3 point prowess that I make the trade for.

Then trade machine is broken.  David Lee makes $15.5 million.  Ryan Anderson makes $8.5 million.  Those don't match at all.

In the trade machine, it looks like the OP included Quincy Pondexter to make the salaries work.

LOL, Pondexter isn't a throw-in.  If you think he's trash, Ainge doesn't want him since he has two more years on his deal after this one, and if you think he's good, he's not a throw-in you ignore.  (Also, Celtics still have to drop a player and this leaves NOP over the luxury tax and increases the Clippers tax bill).

[Monkhouse]

JJ Reddick is a good player. Just not on this team, if we got DMC or someone that could be the go to scorer, you can put Reddick next to him.

[TheSundanceKid]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4.5 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least two extra players to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players we should drop.

The trade as stated works on the trade machine, not sure what you mean? If you add Zeller or Young to the trade then yes they would need to send out more salary.

Good trade proposal but I like it a lot more for the other two teams.  I like Redick a lot.  He's a definite starter, not a tweaner, plays defense, shoots, and makes plays for teammates.  If Ainge truly wants to win as much as possible this year it's a good deal.
But with Bradley playing like he has been, Redick's age, the fact that we have to give up a mid first round pick, I don't think I would pull the trigger on this one.  I'd prefer to save the pick for a bigger fish and continue to work on player development. 

True, there is a bit of duplication here and we don't solve a positional need. It's the 3 point prowess that I make the trade for.

Then trade machine is broken.  David Lee makes $15.5 million.  Ryan Anderson makes $8.5 million.  Those don't match at all.

In the trade machine, it looks like the OP included Quincy Pondexter to make the salaries work.

LOL, Pondexter isn't a throw-in.  If you think he's trash, Ainge doesn't want him since he has two more years on his deal after this one, and if you think he's good, he's not a throw-in you ignore.  (Also, Celtics still have to drop a player and this leaves NOP over the luxury tax and increases the Clippers tax bill).

Ah yep, forgot to write out Pondexter  now I'm with you. As I said, after Dec 14th the trade opens up. You'd have the option of adding Cole instead of Pondexter for example. I'm basically just stating the meat of the trade. I would imagine Ainge would eat the contract and waive Cole.
Fair point on the NO tax bill, that would be a potential roadblock to this deal. NO would have to be comfortable that they could make a subsequent move to shed salary. LA don't care about their tax bill.

[saltlover]

This trade doesn't come close to working for salary purposes.  New Orleans needs to send $4.5 million our way to take on Lee.  Doing so would require at least two extra players to be added to the deal, which means we have to release two players to take on these players.  Please suggest which players we should drop.

The trade as stated works on the trade machine, not sure what you mean? If you add Zeller or Young to the trade then yes they would need to send out more salary.

Good trade proposal but I like it a lot more for the other two teams.  I like Redick a lot.  He's a definite starter, not a tweaner, plays defense, shoots, and makes plays for teammates.  If Ainge truly wants to win as much as possible this year it's a good deal.
But with Bradley playing like he has been, Redick's age, the fact that we have to give up a mid first round pick, I don't think I would pull the trigger on this one.  I'd prefer to save the pick for a bigger fish and continue to work on player development. 

True, there is a bit of duplication here and we don't solve a positional need. It's the 3 point prowess that I make the trade for.

Then trade machine is broken.  David Lee makes $15.5 million.  Ryan Anderson makes $8.5 million.  Those don't match at all.

In the trade machine, it looks like the OP included Quincy Pondexter to make the salaries work.

LOL, Pondexter isn't a throw-in.  If you think he's trash, Ainge doesn't want him since he has two more years on his deal after this one, and if you think he's good, he's not a throw-in you ignore.  (Also, Celtics still have to drop a player and this leaves NOP over the luxury tax and increases the Clippers tax bill).

Ah yep, forgot to write out Pondexter  now I'm with you. As I said, after Dec 14th the trade opens up. You'd have the option of adding Cole instead of Pondexter for example. I'm basically just stating the meat of the trade. I would imagine Ainge would eat the contract and waive Cole.
Fair point on the NO tax bill, that would be a potential roadblock to this deal. NO would have to be comfortable that they could make a subsequent move to shed salary. LA don't care about their tax bill.

Norris Cole has the right to veto any trade.  Players don't waive that right just to be waived.  You still have to say who the Celtics would waive.  Whether or not you think they'd waive Cole, they have to waive someone else already in the team since more players are coming in than going out.  And Cole wouldn't be enough to match.  It's a few hundred thousand short.

Respectfully, NBA trades are complex.  You can't just "state the meat" if you want to have a good discussion.  Often it's the fat of the trade that prevents deals from happening.