Doc Rivers' coaching record doesn't really look that good

[mr. dee]

Watching the Clippers-Warriors game proved that Doc Rivers is always overrated. His track record also say so. And tonight added another record of another collapse, blowing a 23 pt lead in the 4th quarter.

This guy never won a playoff series until KG came. Here are his playoff records:

2000 - 41-41 season record, lottery bound
2001 - 43-39 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2002 - 44-38 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2003 - 42-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead
2004 - 0-10 start at Orlando season, gets fired.
2005 - 45-37 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3
2006 - 33-49 season record, lottery bound
2007 - 24-58 season record, lottery bound, 2nd worst record in the league
2008 - 66-16 season record, NBA champs
2009 - 62-20 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2010 - 50-32 season record, reached NBA Finals, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2011 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-1
2012 - 39-27 season record, reached ECF, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2013 - 41-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-2
2014 - 57-25 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-2
2015 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead

This is alarming because of his repeating choking records and early playoff exits. He never improved any teams he coached on. I'm now starting to believe that even Vinnie Del Negro or George Karl can take us deep in the playoffs with the Big 3 era Celtics.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Watching the Clippers-Warriors game proved that Doc Rivers is always overrated. His track record also say so. And tonight added another record of another collapse, blowing a 23 pt lead in the 4th quarter.

This guy never won a playoff series until KG came. Here are his playoff records:

2000 - 41-41 season record, lottery bound
2001 - 43-39 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2002 - 44-38 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2003 - 42-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead
2004 - 0-10 start at Orlando season, gets fired.
2005 - 45-37 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3
2006 - 33-49 season record, lottery bound
2007 - 24-58 season record, lottery bound, 2nd worst record in the league
2008 - 66-16 season record, NBA champs
2009 - 62-20 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2010 - 50-32 season record, reached NBA Finals, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2011 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-1
2012 - 39-27 season record, reached ECF, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2013 - 41-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-2
2014 - 57-25 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-2
2015 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead

This is alarming because of his repeating choking records and early playoff exits. He never improved any teams he coached on. I'm now starting to believe that even Vinnie Del Negro or George Karl can take us deep in the playoffs with the Big 3 era Celtics.

I think it's worth looking into how bad that teams he had been coaching until then...

[mr. dee]

Watching the Clippers-Warriors game proved that Doc Rivers is always overrated. His track record also say so. And tonight added another record of another collapse, blowing a 23 pt lead in the 4th quarter.

This guy never won a playoff series until KG came. Here are his playoff records:

2000 - 41-41 season record, lottery bound
2001 - 43-39 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2002 - 44-38 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2003 - 42-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead
2004 - 0-10 start at Orlando season, gets fired.
2005 - 45-37 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3
2006 - 33-49 season record, lottery bound
2007 - 24-58 season record, lottery bound, 2nd worst record in the league
2008 - 66-16 season record, NBA champs
2009 - 62-20 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2010 - 50-32 season record, reached NBA Finals, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2011 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-1
2012 - 39-27 season record, reached ECF, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2013 - 41-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-2
2014 - 57-25 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-2
2015 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead

This is alarming because of his repeating choking records and early playoff exits. He never improved any teams he coached on. I'm now starting to believe that even Vinnie Del Negro or George Karl can take us deep in the playoffs with the Big 3 era Celtics.

I think it's worth looking into how bad that teams he had been coaching until then...

- He had Billups, Big Ben Wallace and Tmac on his Orlando team.
- He had Pierce, Big Al, Rondo and Tony Allen before even KG and Ray Arrive. Should have at least made the playoffs, especially in the east but no. And he have no excuse with his current team.

Geoge Karl at least

- lead a starless Denver Nuggets in the playoffs.
- took Ray Allen bucks to ECF.
- took GP Sonics to finals and manage to win 2 games against arguably the best team in NBA history.
- took Melo to WCF.

[slamtheking]

Watching the Clippers-Warriors game proved that Doc Rivers is always overrated. His track record also say so. And tonight added another record of another collapse, blowing a 23 pt lead in the 4th quarter.

This guy never won a playoff series until KG came. Here are his playoff records:

2000 - 41-41 season record, lottery bound
2001 - 43-39 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2002 - 44-38 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2003 - 42-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead
2004 - 0-10 start at Orlando season, gets fired.
2005 - 45-37 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3
2006 - 33-49 season record, lottery bound
2007 - 24-58 season record, lottery bound, 2nd worst record in the league
2008 - 66-16 season record, NBA champs
2009 - 62-20 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2010 - 50-32 season record, reached NBA Finals, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2011 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-1
2012 - 39-27 season record, reached ECF, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2013 - 41-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-2
2014 - 57-25 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-2
2015 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead

This is alarming because of his repeating choking records and early playoff exits. He never improved any teams he coached on. I'm now starting to believe that even Vinnie Del Negro or George Karl can take us deep in the playoffs with the Big 3 era Celtics.

I think it's worth looking into how bad that teams he had been coaching until then...

- He had Billups, Big Ben Wallace and Tmac on his Orlando team.
- He had Pierce, Big Al, Rondo and Tony Allen before even KG and Ray Arrive. Should have at least made the playoffs, especially in the east but no. And he have no excuse with his current team.

Geoge Karl at least

- lead a starless Denver Nuggets in the playoffs.
- took Ray Allen bucks to ECF.
- took GP Sonics to finals and manage to win 2 games against arguably the best team in NBA history.
- took Melo to WCF.

preaching to the choir about Doc being overrated but using Karl as a coaching example with his current issues in Sac may not be the way to support your argument.  Also, you spun out of control with that Sonics winning 2 games against the 'best team in NBA history' because as every Celtic fan knows, the Sonics never played a Celtics team in the finals therefore they were not playing the greatest team in NBA history (doesn't matter which Celtic championship team) 

[knuckleballer]

And just think we got R.J. Hunter for him.  No one ever gets a promising young player for a coach.  Good work, Danny.  This could look like quite a steal in a couple of seasons.

[pearljammer10]

All coaches have their ups and downs...If you put any other coaches timeline alongside this one (aside from maybe 2-3-4 of the legendary coaches) they would look awfully similar and in most cases even worse.

[Eja117]

All coaches have their ups and downs...If you put any other coaches timeline alongside this one (aside from maybe 2-3-4 of the legendary coaches) they would look awfully similar and in most cases even worse.

Most coaches don't have Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, and Chris Paul.   

[kozlodoev]

- He had Billups, Big Ben Wallace and Tmac on his Orlando team.
- He had Pierce, Big Al, Rondo and Tony Allen before even KG and Ray Arrive. Should have at least made the playoffs, especially in the east but no. And he have no excuse with his current team.

1. Billups has never played a minute for Orlando. He was injured the whole year when he was there.

2. You need to do your homework about what type of players a second-year Al Jefferson and a 25-year old Ben Wallace were.

3. Doc Rivers won 45 games in 2004-2005 with a roster where the likes of Mark Blount, Ricky Davis, and Jiri Welsch started and played major minutes. Were you paying attention to a different team back then or?

[bdm860]

Watching the Clippers-Warriors game proved that Doc Rivers is always overrated. His track record also say so. And tonight added another record of another collapse, blowing a 23 pt lead in the 4th quarter.

This guy never won a playoff series until KG came. Here are his playoff records:

2000 - 41-41 season record, lottery bound
2001 - 43-39 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2002 - 44-38 season record, 1st round exit, lost 3-1
2003 - 42-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead
2004 - 0-10 start at Orlando season, gets fired.
2005 - 45-37 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-3
2006 - 33-49 season record, lottery bound
2007 - 24-58 season record, lottery bound, 2nd worst record in the league
2008 - 66-16 season record, NBA champs
2009 - 62-20 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2010 - 50-32 season record, reached NBA Finals, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2011 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-1
2012 - 39-27 season record, reached ECF, lost 4-3, choked a 3-2 lead
2013 - 41-40 season record, 1st round exit, lost 4-2
2014 - 57-25 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-2
2015 - 56-26 season record, 2nd round exit, lost 4-3, choked a 3-1 lead

This is alarming because of his repeating choking records and early playoff exits. He never improved any teams he coached on. I'm now starting to believe that even Vinnie Del Negro or George Karl can take us deep in the playoffs with the Big 3 era Celtics.

So by this logic, Brad Stevens is also a bad coach, right?  Probably worse than Doc.  Never had a winning season, never even won a playoff game.  He also had a 25-57 win season, pretty comparable to Doc's 24-58 season.

[TheTruthFot18]

- Pre- Dwight Howard Orlando teams. They were overachieving most years

-Pre- big 3 Celtics. I don't think anyone could've helped those teams as far as coaching.

Clippers? Well, they are forever cursed and have to play GS regularly.

He's not that great? But who is really better that's coaching now outside of Pop?

[Moranis]

Doc has always been an average coach.  I just think he is a two-faced Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and have I have never liked him.

[Eja117]

- Pre- Dwight Howard Orlando teams. They were overachieving most years

-Pre- big 3 Celtics. I don't think anyone could've helped those teams as far as coaching.

Clippers? Well, they are forever cursed and have to play GS regularly.

He's not that great? But who is really better that's coaching now outside of Pop?

Brad Stevens for sure.

[Moranis]

- Pre- Dwight Howard Orlando teams. They were overachieving most years

-Pre- big 3 Celtics. I don't think anyone could've helped those teams as far as coaching.

Clippers? Well, they are forever cursed and have to play GS regularly.

He's not that great? But who is really better that's coaching now outside of Pop?

Brad Stevens for sure.

there are a number of coaches better than Doc.  I'd of course take CBS and Pop, but I'd also take for sure Ricky C, Spoel, Stan, and Budenholzer.  I'm undecided on, but might take, Hollins, Brown, Kerr, Snyder, Blatt, and Donovan.  Most of the indecision there is those guys are mostly new and don't have the consistent track record (and I don't see them enough like I do CBS to really know).

[slamtheking]

- Pre- Dwight Howard Orlando teams. They were overachieving most years

-Pre- big 3 Celtics. I don't think anyone could've helped those teams as far as coaching.

Clippers? Well, they are forever cursed and have to play GS regularly.

He's not that great? But who is really better that's coaching now outside of Pop?

Brad Stevens for sure.

there are a number of coaches better than Doc.  I'd of course take CBS and Pop, but I'd also take for sure Ricky C, Spoel, Stan, and Budenholzer.  I'm undecided on, but might take, Hollins, Brown, Kerr, Snyder, Blatt, and Donovan.  Most of the indecision there is those guys are mostly new and don't have the consistent track record (and I don't see them enough like I do CBS to really know).

not sold on any of them but I'd consider a Pre-Sacramento Karl (taking into account what I said above) and Rick Carlisle for sure.  Mchale too prior to this year.  Thibs even though he's not coaching at the moment. 

Always thought Doc was overrated, much like KC Jones as a coach. 

[Endless Paradise]

Rick Carlisle remains underappreciated. I'd easily rank him the second-best coach in basketball. What he's managed to do with the Mavs since 2012, the second half of last year notwithstanding, is nothing short of incredible.