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Eric Gordon. Realistic trade target? Fits Brad's system?
« on: November 19, 2015, 10:02:45 PM »

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26 years old.
38% career 3 point shooting (which we need).
Size, defends well and averaging almost 20 ppg this season.
He's also expiring.

Pelicans look bad. Gordon was a signing before they lucked out woth Davis. With his expiring contract coming up,
What would it take to get him here and would he fit with what Stevens is trying to build here?
Team first guy, from Indiana, efficient scorer and good defender.

Three second round picks or two 2nd round picks+ James Young?

Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 10:12:47 PM »

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26 years old.
38% career 3 point shooting (which we need).
Size, defends well and averaging almost 20 ppg this season.
He's also expiring.

Pelicans look bad. Gordon was a signing before they lucked out woth Davis. With his expiring contract coming up,
What would it take to get him here and would he fit with what Stevens is trying to build here?
Team first guy, from Indiana, efficient scorer and good defender.

Three second round picks or two 2nd round picks+ James Young?

Thoughts?



Pass.

While I love his improved 3 pt shot, anything less than a second rounder or two, and Gordon isn't worth it.

I'm still a huge fan of Eric Gordon. I like him, and if we could get him for cheap, then by all means, go for it. His injury history just worries me.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 10:39:24 PM »

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26 years old.
38% career 3 point shooting (which we need).
Size, defends well and averaging almost 20 ppg this season.
He's also expiring.

Pelicans look bad. Gordon was a signing before they lucked out woth Davis. With his expiring contract coming up,
What would it take to get him here and would he fit with what Stevens is trying to build here?
Team first guy, from Indiana, efficient scorer and good defender.

Three second round picks or two 2nd round picks+ James Young?

Thoughts?



Pass.

While I love his improved 3 pt shot, anything less than a second rounder or two, and Gordon isn't worth it.

I'm still a huge fan of Eric Gordon. I like him, and if we could get him for cheap, then by all means, go for it. His injury history just worries me.

I agree. He has missed 187 games in the last 6 seasons. Love his play and his grit....when he can play.

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I would do it. He's still young, looks healthy since midway last season, and is playing great. He's also underrated at this point. We need a scorer, and he would fit well in CBS system.

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 10:56:46 PM »

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We would need to deal Lee in order to match salaries. Gordon can be really good but he's never healthy. Not sure I do Lee and young for Gordon.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 11:03:51 PM »

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We already have enough guards and Gordon is undersized. I don't trust his injury history and there's no guarantee he'd be back next year. This year he's been fine but he "coincidentally" starts to play better in the last year of his contract? Interesting idea but no thanks.

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I like the idea of bringing Gordon here - he's still young, fills a need, and is an excellent buy-low candidate.

But I'm worried that we'd probably have to be willing to resign him to make any realistic deal make sense, and he's going to want a lot of money this offseason.  And with every team sitting on cap space, someone will probably give it to him.  Too many injury/attitude/effectiveness concerns to risk a major long-term deal.  I'd honestly like it better if he had one more year on his contract.

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 12:25:50 AM »

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I always thought he was a poor defensive player?

I've never really watched him much myself, but that always seems to have been the word going around. 

Also with all the cap space, would it be easier / cheaper to sign him in free agency rather than to trade for him and have to give up assets?

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 12:26:39 AM »

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Regarding his health, he's only missed 21 games in 2014-15 and 18 games in 2013-14.

I think he's shown he can stay on the court.
We'd likely have to send out a guard though so James Young would be on his way to NO.

Would be a huge upgrade in scoring for us.
He's averaged 50% from the field and 38% from 3 point land.

Just seems like a guy we could get for pretty cheap and who isn't going to necessarily get huge offers in free agency.
The point of trading for him would be to get him here with his fellow hoosier Brad Stevens and then convince him we are building a legitimate contender in the East- ala Jae Crowder
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2015, 02:08:02 AM »

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Regarding his health, he's only missed 21 games in 2014-15 and 18 games in 2013-14.

I think he's shown he can stay on the court.
We'd likely have to send out a guard though so James Young would be on his way to NO.

Would be a huge upgrade in scoring for us.
He's averaged 50% from the field and 38% from 3 point land.

Just seems like a guy we could get for pretty cheap and who isn't going to necessarily get huge offers in free agency.
The point of trading for him would be to get him here with his fellow hoosier Brad Stevens and then convince him we are building a legitimate contender in the East- ala Jae Crowder

I'm not sure missing only one-quarter of the games in each of the last two seasons is a great definition for "staying on the court."  It's common around these parts to criticize the health of AB and Sully, and Gordon has missed about the same number of games over the last two years.  Granted, missing 25% of the games is better than his 2012-2013 season, when he missed 50%, or 2011-2012 when he missed 85%, but he really has had problems staying on the court over his career.

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2015, 05:21:20 AM »

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Regarding his health, he's only missed 21 games in 2014-15 and 18 games in 2013-14.

I think he's shown he can stay on the court.
We'd likely have to send out a guard though so James Young would be on his way to NO.

Would be a huge upgrade in scoring for us.
He's averaged 50% from the field and 38% from 3 point land.

Just seems like a guy we could get for pretty cheap and who isn't going to necessarily get huge offers in free agency.
The point of trading for him would be to get him here with his fellow hoosier Brad Stevens and then convince him we are building a legitimate contender in the East- ala Jae Crowder

I'm not sure missing only one-quarter of the games in each of the last two seasons is a great definition for "staying on the court."  It's common around these parts to criticize the health of AB and Sully, and Gordon has missed about the same number of games over the last two years.  Granted, missing 25% of the games is better than his 2012-2013 season, when he missed 50%, or 2011-2012 when he missed 85%, but he really has had problems staying on the court over his career.

Well that's kind of my point.
He had the injury and struggled for a long time.
The past 2 years have been pretty good though...and we re-signed Avery Bradley with his injury concerns.

I think it would be fair to say his health is far less of an issue than it was 2 years ago right?
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2015, 07:09:30 AM »

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What is the fascination with lateral trades on this board?  I know your going with realistic and not swinging for the fences but I would rather stick with AB.

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Regarding his health, he's only missed 21 games in 2014-15 and 18 games in 2013-14.

Only?   That is a lot.  21 out of 82 is 26%.

He has some skills we need though.

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I'd rather have Bradley play the minutes Gordon would take up and I can't stand Bradley. Gordon's way too expensive and wouldn't upgrade us or move the needle too much. Sure we need some three point shooting but we can find a better fit elsewhere.

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Only reason we should do it is to buy low.

NO can't seem to make a Holiday, Gordon, Evans lineup work so someone has to go.

Not sure what I'd give up thought. They already have a big man off the bench that is all offense and no defense so maybe AB?
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2015, 09:31:39 AM »

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We have RJ Hunter.

I'm set on giving him or Young a shot in the future.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=gordoer01&p2=bradlav01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

Gordon/AB are eerily similar, except AB is better defensively, and Gordon might have better handles, but that's about it.

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I would take Gordon if it only costed two second rounders. Any more is an overpay for a rental.
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