Cousins suspeded

[jdz101]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

I'm inclined to think that not many of us would be great leaders if we were stuck on a losing team/horrible franchise. It would be pretty depressing.

Not that I'm defending DMC in this or any other particular incident, but I think what Roy is saying is not that DMC is the same caliber of player as KG (though I think he could be), but that they're quite similar in terms of on-court "jerkiness," regardless of their motivations for being so. I like KG, but there were many times during his Cs tenure that I shook my head at his juvenile on-court antics.

[jdz101]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

I'm inclined to think that not many of us would be great leaders if we were stuck on a losing team/horrible franchise. It would be pretty depressing.

Not that I'm defending DMC in this or any other particular incident, but I think what Roy is saying is not that DMC is the same caliber of player as KG (though I think he could be), but that they're quite similar in terms of on-court "jerkiness," regardless of their motivations for being so. I like KG, but there were many times during his Cs tenure that I shook my head at his juvenile on-court antics.

Everyone of those garnett youtube examples there was already a physical confrontation or ball battle.

Cousins threw his elbow at horford's jaw after the ball was through the hoop and everything should have been over. Is al horford really the sort of guy that strikes you as a thug? What happens if that elbow connects and horford gets a serious concussion? You can end careers with that sort of crap.

What happens if smart breaks his arm or dislocates his shoulder when Cousins throws him down violently last year?

Kevin Garnett hated the other team and didn't care what they thought.

When cousins doesn't get a call and gets into sulk mode he hates everyone and doesn't care about anyone else, not even his team. A lot of the time KG played great when angry and getting under the other team's skin. Cousins' play very rarely benefits from him acting like **** and his team definitely doesn't.

If its not helping your team, then learn to control yourself.

[jdz101]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

Not that I'm defending DMC in this or any other particular incident, but I think what Roy is saying is not that DMC is the same caliber of player as KG (though I think he could be), but that they're quite similar in terms of on-court "jerkiness,"

You make a great point. And that's what annoys me most about him. He is a massive waste of talent.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

I'm inclined to think that not many of us would be great leaders if we were stuck on a losing team/horrible franchise. It would be pretty depressing.

Not that I'm defending DMC in this or any other particular incident, but I think what Roy is saying is not that DMC is the same caliber of player as KG (though I think he could be), but that they're quite similar in terms of on-court "jerkiness," regardless of their motivations for being so. I like KG, but there were many times during his Cs tenure that I shook my head at his juvenile on-court antics.

Everyone of those garnett youtube examples there was already a physical confrontation or ball battle.

Cousins threw his elbow at horford's jaw after the ball was through the hoop and everything should have been over. Is al horford really the sort of guy that strikes you as a thug? What happens if that elbow connects and horford gets a serious concussion? You can end careers with that sort of crap.

What happens if smart breaks his arm or dislocates his shoulder when Cousins throws him down violently last year?

Kevin Garnett hated the other team and didn't care what they thought.

When cousins doesn't get a call and gets into sulk mode he hates everyone and doesn't care about anyone else, not even his team. A lot of the time KG played great when angry and getting under the other team's skin. Cousins' play very rarely benefits from him acting like **** and his team definitely doesn't.

If its not helping your team, then learn to control yourself.

No, I don't think Horford is a thug, and I agree that you should only be doing those things that help your team, but I also think you have a biased view of KG. There were numerous times I saw him do something that wasn't really a "basketball play." Sure, he was doing it more to get under an opponent's skin than out of anger, but it had nothing to do with the play and was really just a jerk move.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

Not that I'm defending DMC in this or any other particular incident, but I think what Roy is saying is not that DMC is the same caliber of player as KG (though I think he could be), but that they're quite similar in terms of on-court "jerkiness,"

You make a great point. And that's what annoys me most about him. He is a massive waste of talent.

I think his talent is being wasted only to the degree that bad management of the Kings has failed to put serious talent around him. I think that if he's on a good team with good chemistry and a good coach (*cough*Boston*cough*), he might be able to put forth a better product in regards to his personal behavior. I mean, he's always put up great numbers, so it's not like he hasn't produced. I think he does have an attitude problem, but I think it's exacerbated by his current situation—a classic case of players on bad teams acting like idiots—and a healthy environment could do wonders for the guy.

[Hemingway]

sometimes people just need a change. Remember when we fired Pitino and then all of a sudden we startd winning at a higher rate? Did we improve in terms of talent? No it was the same team. But then everyone wanted to play better so they could say, look it was all Pitino's fault. It could be the same with DMC. If/when he gets traded he very well might put himself in check a bit so he can do well, look good and then be able to blame all his past problems on the Kings.

One way DMC and KG are alike is that there is a ton of talk on here about them when they are not wearing green. With KG there was smoke before the fire for a few years. The Wolves like the Kings were going nowhere and we were just waiting and getting more and more assets to finally make a trade. Wether we get him or not, I think it's the same with Cuz.

[Kuberski33]

Yea I wouldn't want to depend on this guy in big situations . He loses it way to easy . One incident after another .

Exactly.  He just may lack mental toughness or whatever it is that makes you lose your poise.  I'm not sure you mortgage the future of your franchise for someone a. who has never won at the pro level and b. you're not sure how he'd react under real pressure. 

[jdz101]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

Not that I'm defending DMC in this or any other particular incident, but I think what Roy is saying is not that DMC is the same caliber of player as KG (though I think he could be), but that they're quite similar in terms of on-court "jerkiness,"

You make a great point. And that's what annoys me most about him. He is a massive waste of talent.

I think his talent is being wasted only to the degree that bad management of the Kings has failed to put serious talent around him. I think that if he's on a good team with good chemistry and a good coach (*cough*Boston*cough*), he might be able to put forth a better product in regards to his personal behavior. I mean, he's always put up great numbers, so it's not like he hasn't produced. I think he does have an attitude problem, but I think it's exacerbated by his current situation—a classic case of players on bad teams acting like idiots—and a healthy environment could do wonders for the guy.

Well you've got cousins, rondo, koufos, rudy gay, an improving ben mclemore, and two solid bench guys in belinelli and collison with a solid coach. And there's a 4-9 record. What's the excuse this year if they come out going 10-22?

When does the best player on the team start taking the blame?

[crimson_stallion]

Yea I wouldn't want to depend on this guy in big situations . He loses it way to easy . One incident after another .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFgECUCwvk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NaQ1dJ3c4M

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xtmpEPNiqB4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5aDQqbAIHHo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHrhaV_-uiM

KG did it to get under the opponents skin , Cousin is the exact opposite and loses his head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CifxHpQWc_0

People see what they want to see. I guess QRich was so important that getting into his head was worth being suspended for a playoff game? 

Or, KG is a passionate player who sometimes crossed the line. Just like DMC.

I know you love Cousins , but he is not in KG's league when it comes to making a team better .

Oh really? 

Because you might find the advanced stats suggest otherwise.

1) Cousins ranked #9 in the league last year in Real Plus Minus, suggestion there are no more than 8 players in the NBA who impact on their team's success more than Cousins does.

2) Over the past three seasons, the Sacramento Kings have gone 6-32 (0.016) in games that Demarcus Cousins has not played and 55-83 (0.400) in games he has played.  DMC is the difference between the Kings being a borderline playoff team, versus them being (hands down) the worst team in the NBA.

Those numbers may or may not be as good as KG's numbers when he was Cousin's age (I'm guessing they are at least on par) but they are definitely "in KG's league".

[crimson_stallion]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

Doesn't change the fact that cousins deserves a suspension for acting like a tosser on a regular basis. When is this guy's talent or sacramento's talent as a whole going to translate to any wins? At what point does being a leader become his responsibility instead of being a complete sook half the time?

Anyone who trades multiple high picks for this guy is making a mistake.

Not that I'm defending DMC in this or any other particular incident, but I think what Roy is saying is not that DMC is the same caliber of player as KG (though I think he could be), but that they're quite similar in terms of on-court "jerkiness,"

You make a great point. And that's what annoys me most about him. He is a massive waste of talent.

I think his talent is being wasted only to the degree that bad management of the Kings has failed to put serious talent around him. I think that if he's on a good team with good chemistry and a good coach (*cough*Boston*cough*), he might be able to put forth a better product in regards to his personal behavior. I mean, he's always put up great numbers, so it's not like he hasn't produced. I think he does have an attitude problem, but I think it's exacerbated by his current situation—a classic case of players on bad teams acting like idiots—and a healthy environment could do wonders for the guy.

Well you've got cousins, rondo, koufos, rudy gay, an improving ben mclemore, and two solid bench guys in belinelli and collison with a solid coach. And there's a 4-9 record. What's the excuse this year if they come out going 10-22?

When does the best player on the team start taking the blame?

When Cousins has played they are 4-4 (0.500) with the four losses coming against the Clippers (twice), the Spurs and the Hawks.  All top tier teams.

When Cousins hasn't played they are 0-4, with losses against the Grizzlies, Suns, Rockets and Warriors. 

First thing this points out is that 6 of the Kings' 8 losses have been against top tier teams.  The two losses that were against bad teams (Memphis and Houston) were without Cousins.

Better?

[Rosco917]

Par for the course. Just another Cousins stunt that kill the teams chance to win the game.

What's scary is, this cheep shot could take place in a playoff game, and he's out for 2 games, and his team looses the series. The guy is ill. He has no self control at all.

[slamtheking]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

yeah, I miss the old days of the 80's and earlier where players got into tussles and there wasn't a big stink about it.  none of this "everyone is everyone's friend" bs we have today. 

wonder if Danny still has those bite marks from Tree Rollins

[Roy H.]

Yea I wouldn't want to depend on this guy in big situations . He loses it way to easy . One incident after another .

Exactly.  He just may lack mental toughness or whatever it is that makes you lose your poise.  I'm not sure you mortgage the future of your franchise for someone a. who has never won at the pro level and b. you're not sure how he'd react under real pressure.

Like KG.  Like Rondo.  Like Pierce. 

All lost their composure and got suspended or ejected in playoff games.  I wouldn't want to depend on those guys in big situations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwm2tolAHo

Good thing we didn't build around that guy.

Oh wait.

#CelticsFanHypocrisy

[Kane3387]

Disappointing

Seriously?  You must have hated the 2008 Celtics.

This stuff barely registers with me. Two big men were playing physically and one threw an elbow? It doesn't make me want to hide the women and children.

I don't remember guys doing this in 2008.

I was disappointed with rondo against Atlanta in 2011. And kg vs Miami in 2010. Thing is, is that we won so it ultimately didn't matter following those games.

Kings need every win they can get thanks to the instability there. If cousins played they win this game against the Heat. It's disappointing it happened and the timing of it is even worse.

Big picture tho. It doesn't matter too much. But it was the worst time for him to do this and ultimately it was costly bc they lost a game he helps them win.