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Re: Smart vs Lavine
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2015, 08:21:26 PM »

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So James Young isn't showing anything so far and people are starting to panic? You guys Danny has hit on a lot of his draft choices lately so I really think he'll do well this draft.

Re: Smart vs Lavine
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2015, 08:22:42 PM »

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Lavine's not a point guard.

But then, Smart probably isn't, either.

Who would you rather have as your starting SG?

Lavine is averaging almost 4 assists per game in 23 minutes, so it's not like he's Nick Young out there.


I love Smart's defense, and I still think he gets the nod because of that, but at some point he's going to have to become a more reliable and consistent offensive player.  Zach Lavine is a dangerous scorer already, and he's a year younger.

Down in Orlando, Elfrid Payton is still a work in progress.  But he's starting to hit the occasional three, and he's getting to the line a ton. 

Smart has won me over with his defense and intangibles, but I am legitimately worried the Celts might have left two superior guard prospects on the board. 

A good lead guard has to be able to attack and get into the paint to create opportunities for himself and teammates, whether it's by strength, guile, speed, or sick handles.  Smart hasn't shown that he can do that.

I saw Payton against the Lakers and he cannot shoot at all and he only goes to the line 3 times the same rate as Smart.

Re: Smart vs Lavine
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2015, 08:23:27 PM »

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Agreed. With Danny's seemingly subpar ability to analyze talent, I'm actually growing a little worried that who we pick with the Nets pick will be a bad choice. Hope we don't get another one of those "hustle", "effort" kinda guys. We need talent. Straight up. No more energy, "feel good" guys.

In this draft, it seems like the Ainge guys in the top 10 could be Jaylen Brown (wing with an NBA body who can't shoot that well), Malik Newman (6'4'' combo guard, Ainge's favorite), and Henry Ellenson (Kevin Love wannabe).
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Re: Smart vs Lavine
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2015, 08:28:07 PM »

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Lavine's not a point guard.

But then, Smart probably isn't, either.

Who would you rather have as your starting SG?

Lavine is averaging almost 4 assists per game in 23 minutes, so it's not like he's Nick Young out there.


I love Smart's defense, and I still think he gets the nod because of that, but at some point he's going to have to become a more reliable and consistent offensive player.  Zach Lavine is a dangerous scorer already, and he's a year younger.

Down in Orlando, Elfrid Payton is still a work in progress.  But he's starting to hit the occasional three, and he's getting to the line a ton. 

Smart has won me over with his defense and intangibles, but I am legitimately worried the Celts might have left two superior guard prospects on the board. 

A good lead guard has to be able to attack and get into the paint to create opportunities for himself and teammates, whether it's by strength, guile, speed, or sick handles.  Smart hasn't shown that he can do that.

I saw Payton against the Lakers and he cannot shoot at all and he only goes to the line 3 times the same rate as Smart.

Payton's only averaging 3 trips to the line per game, that's true, but in the last 5 games he's averaging over 6.  He's also hitting 75% from the line this year, which is much better than last year.

It's true, he's a poor shooter, but he's been hitting the occasional three pointer, which would be a big deal even if he just adds the ability to hit a wide open shot.

My biggest concern with Smart v Payton is that Smart doesn't seem like he can even get inside that often.  Payton isn't a great scorer by any means, but at least he's shown that he can get inside, attack, and get to the line.  Not just once in a while, but fairly consistently. 

I dunno, I like Smart.  I'm just starting to worry that his offense isn't coming.  I was hoping we'd see him take the reins and attack more this year.  Yes, he's dealing with a toe injury, but he had an injury that held him back most of last year, too.  Makes me wonder if foot injuries, and his lack of natural speed, agility, or above average ball-handling will prevent him from realizing his potential inside the three point line.
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Re: Smart vs Lavine
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2015, 08:34:16 PM »

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So James Young isn't showing anything so far and people are starting to panic? You guys Danny has hit on a lot of his draft choices lately so I really think he'll do well this draft.
Don't know if he's exactly "hit" on a lot of his picks. JaJuan Johnson, Fab Melo, Kris Joseph, Maybe Young, let's give him more time though. He's also traded away a couple of decent guys, like Marshon Brooks (could score) and E'Twaun Moore (backup in Chicago now). While Danny's trading is superb, his drafting needs help, although I feel it's been better since Brad came. Wonder if Brad helped him make choices, or if Doc was the culprit for some of those bad picks.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Smart vs Lavine
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2015, 08:34:25 PM »

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Lavine also turns the ball over a lot more than Smart. I like Smart's feel for the game a lot more. Lavine has all the talent in the world but if he can't settle down and put it together its not going to be worth anything. I can definitely see him doing it, but it's not a done deal.

Smart will make the most of whatever he's inevitably capable of. Hopefully he shows himself a more capable scorer than he's been so far.
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