Smart vs Lavine

[Tr1boy]

Who is a better prospect now? Higher potential down the line?

If there was a re-draft (with what we know now), would you still draft Smart or Lavine instead?

[Eddie20]

Lavine is really talented, but is only looking for his own shot. Passing is almost an afterthought. Very hard to have that mindset when you're playing with Wiggins and Towns. No coincidence they went 0-4 with him starting while Rubio was out (5-3 when Rubio starts).

[Monkhouse]

I would actually love to put Lavine next to Smart.

[Tr1boy]

I would actually love to put Lavine next to Smart.

Fire and ice?

[Monkhouse]

I would actually love to put Lavine next to Smart.

Fire and ice?

I'm assuming your comment means that they wouldn't fit at all next to each other?

Lavine isn't a PG. Hes a SG with a nice shooting stroke, and potential to be a great two way player in the future. Putting someone like him, who has scored 25 pts against the Griz in 17 mins is certainly going to be a problem in the future.

[manl_lui]

Who is a better prospect now? Higher potential down the line?

If there was a re-draft (with what we know now), would you still draft Smart or Lavine instead?

I would still draft Smart with the #6 pick

his presence is definitely felt when he is on the court with the other players...his impact on the defensive end is HUGE...not giving all the credit to him, but he helped put the Celtics on the top 10 defense in the NBA...him and Crowder's defense and steals leads to easy fast break points

Lavine is GREAT, but assuming at #13, I would trade our #17 and probably another pick or a player to move up to 13

[snively]

Smart no question. LaVine is a Gerald Green Redux.

[CelticGuardian]

Lavine is scoring, efficiently at that... Smart, is not. Unless he's playing against Westbrook... which for some reason turns him into Ray Allen.

Smart's defense is clearly valuable, as we have seen in the @Rockets game. But he was drafted too high in my opinion, He hasn't shown a go to move or anything really that says he'll be anything special on offense. Smart is a winner, energy/glue guy similar to KG, every team needs someone like him.

But if we were to consider talent and on court production, I'm liking what Zack Lavine is doing, Idk what Eddie20's point is, since Lavine is averaging around the same assists numbers as Smart, more points, a higher PER while averaging 7 minutes less than Smart.

[PhoSita]

Lavine's not a point guard.

But then, Smart probably isn't, either.

Who would you rather have as your starting SG?

Lavine is averaging almost 4 assists per game in 23 minutes, so it's not like he's Nick Young out there.


I love Smart's defense, and I still think he gets the nod because of that, but at some point he's going to have to become a more reliable and consistent offensive player.  Zach Lavine is a dangerous scorer already, and he's a year younger.

Down in Orlando, Elfrid Payton is still a work in progress.  But he's starting to hit the occasional three, and he's getting to the line a ton. 

Smart has won me over with his defense and intangibles, but I am legitimately worried the Celts might have left two superior guard prospects on the board. 

A good lead guard has to be able to attack and get into the paint to create opportunities for himself and teammates, whether it's by strength, guile, speed, or sick handles.  Smart hasn't shown that he can do that.

[CelticGuardian]

Lavine's not a point guard.

But then, Smart probably isn't, either.

Who would you rather have as your starting SG?

Lavine is averaging almost 4 assists per game in 23 minutes, so it's not like he's Nick Young out there.


I love Smart's defense, and I still think he gets the nod because of that, but at some point he's going to have to become a more reliable and consistent offensive player.  Zach Lavine is a dangerous scorer already, and he's a year younger.

Down in Orlando, Elfrid Payton is still a work in progress.  But he's starting to hit the occasional three, and he's getting to the line a ton. 

Smart has won me over with his defense and intangibles, but I am legitimately worried the Celts might have left two superior guard prospects on the board. 

A good lead guard has to be able to attack and get into the paint to create opportunities for himself and teammates, whether it's by strength, guile, speed, or sick handles.  Smart hasn't shown that he can do that.

James Young is not looking to be the best selection at his draft position either. Rodney Hood, KJ McDaniels and Jordan Clarkson all seem to be more capable players....  Danny Ainge needs some serious help scouting these guys... I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this upcoming Nets pick.

[PhoSita]

Lavine's not a point guard.

But then, Smart probably isn't, either.

Who would you rather have as your starting SG?

Lavine is averaging almost 4 assists per game in 23 minutes, so it's not like he's Nick Young out there.


I love Smart's defense, and I still think he gets the nod because of that, but at some point he's going to have to become a more reliable and consistent offensive player.  Zach Lavine is a dangerous scorer already, and he's a year younger.

Down in Orlando, Elfrid Payton is still a work in progress.  But he's starting to hit the occasional three, and he's getting to the line a ton. 

Smart has won me over with his defense and intangibles, but I am legitimately worried the Celts might have left two superior guard prospects on the board. 

A good lead guard has to be able to attack and get into the paint to create opportunities for himself and teammates, whether it's by strength, guile, speed, or sick handles.  Smart hasn't shown that he can do that.

James Young is not looking to be the best selection at his draft position either. Rodney Hood, KJ McDaniels and Jordan Clarkson all seem to be more capable players....  Danny Ainge needs some serious help scouting these guys... I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this upcoming Nets pick.

The Young pick was a swing for the fences, so I don't feel so bad about it.  Hood is already 23.  But I would have swung for the fences by taking Capela.

I'm hoping the Nets pick ends up high enough that the decision will be difficult to truly mess up.

[Eja117]

Smart

[TheFlex]

Smart

Payton

LaVine

[alldaboston]

Lavine's not a point guard.

But then, Smart probably isn't, either.

Who would you rather have as your starting SG?

Lavine is averaging almost 4 assists per game in 23 minutes, so it's not like he's Nick Young out there.


I love Smart's defense, and I still think he gets the nod because of that, but at some point he's going to have to become a more reliable and consistent offensive player.  Zach Lavine is a dangerous scorer already, and he's a year younger.

Down in Orlando, Elfrid Payton is still a work in progress.  But he's starting to hit the occasional three, and he's getting to the line a ton. 

Smart has won me over with his defense and intangibles, but I am legitimately worried the Celts might have left two superior guard prospects on the board. 

A good lead guard has to be able to attack and get into the paint to create opportunities for himself and teammates, whether it's by strength, guile, speed, or sick handles.  Smart hasn't shown that he can do that.

James Young is not looking to be the best selection at his draft position either. Rodney Hood, KJ McDaniels and Jordan Clarkson all seem to be more capable players....  Danny Ainge needs some serious help scouting these guys... I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this upcoming Nets pick.

Agreed. With Danny's seemingly subpar ability to analyze talent, I'm actually growing a little worried that who we pick with the Nets pick will be a bad choice. Hope we don't get another one of those "hustle", "effort" kinda guys. We need talent. Straight up. No more energy, "feel good" guys.

[Rondo9]

Lavine is scoring, efficiently at that... Smart, is not. Unless he's playing against Westbrook... which for some reason turns him into Ray Allen.

Smart's defense is clearly valuable, as we have seen in the @Rockets game. But he was drafted too high in my opinion, He hasn't shown a go to move or anything really that says he'll be anything special on offense. Smart is a winner, energy/glue guy similar to KG, every team needs someone like him.

But if we were to consider talent and on court production, I'm liking what Zack Lavine is doing, Idk what Eddie20's point is, since Lavine is averaging around the same assists numbers as Smart, more points, a higher PER while averaging 7 minutes less than Smart.

Lavine plays bad defense and in terms of running an offense he's pretty bad. At least Smart can defer to guys like Thomas.