Potential Devalued/Wasted Assets - Cause for Alarm? create roster spots?

[bergerac33]

Hello Celtic Nation, i am beyond thrilled at our stash of draft picks, our young talent already on the roster, our future, however i am very concerned about the state of our assets for this year specifically.

If a perfect scenario unfolds where we end up with the Nets/Mavs/Wolves draft picks along with ours and all of the second round picks we are owed, that is like 6 or 7 roster spots.
We already had to cut Perry Jones because we were at our absolute limit space wise.
Can someone please extrapolate how we can go from our existing 15 players while adding 6 or 7 more drafted players without having to burn or waste assets in the form of either draft picks or valuable players we currently have on the team? the only expiring contract on the books I believe is David Lee. We would need to potentially create at a minimum 3 or 4 additional spots.

My concern is other teams know that the Celtics Absolutely have to consolidate this year and essentially are going to make those transactions as expensive as possible.
Are we going to find ourselves in a situation where Danny has to overpay on every deal JUST to be able to consolidate his assets? We all saw how attempting to consolidate and trade up didn't work in last year's draft.

I would love to hear people's thoughts on this potentially gloomy issue.


 

[Ilikesports17]

Lee turner and Sullinger are all expiring and we have team options on jerebko and Amir

That being said we are going to have to make a 3 for 1 type trade soon

[bergerac33]

True on all counts however i count all of them but David Lee as useful players going forward at least through next year.
We hold options on some of them and others can be extended if a reasonable dollar number can be negotiated.

[PhoSita]

Can someone please extrapolate how we can go from our existing 15 players while adding 6 or 7 more drafted players without having to burn or waste assets in the form of either draft picks or valuable players we currently have on the team?

Evan Turner --> expiring
David Lee --> expiring
Amir Johnson --> non-guaranteed second year
Jonas Jerebko --> non-guaranteed second year
Jared Sullinger --> could leave as a RFA
Tyler Zeller --> could leave as a RFA

Chances are there'll be a trade to consolidate picks and players.


There are "useful" players on that list, as you note, but they are also "easily replaceable / redundant" players.


I think you're correct to point out that other teams will understand that the Celts have a surplus of assets and will use that as leverage.  They know we can't keep all of these guys, or use all of our picks.

That's part of why Danny was willing to throw 4 picks at the Hornets to move up in the draft, I'd imagine.

[Eddie20]

Expiring
Lee
Turner

Team option
Johnson
Jerebko

Restricted
Sullinger
Zeller


Those 2016 second round draft picks will either be consolidated and/or used on players that will go overseas (see Iverson and Thornton). There is really no cause for concern.

[bergerac33]

Evan Turner -->  useful utility bench player who can get his own shot and worth a bench and roster spot
David Lee -->  only one that needs to leave
Amir Johnson --> would amount to a wasted asset if we did not pick up his well priced option
Jonas Jerebko --> would amount to a wasted asset if we did not pick up his well priced option
Jared Sullinger --> leaving as an RFA would count as a wasted asset
Tyler Zeller --> leaving as an RFA would count as a wasted asset

[mmmmm]

While it's true that Turner & Lee are expiring, Johnson & Jerebko are non-guaranteed and Zeller & Sullener are RFA, I don't think any of that means Danny is any less likely to make a consolidating trade (or two ... or three).

Danny doesn't have a history of letting expiring assets walk away for nothing.

All 6 of those mentioned players have value as tradable assets and I will be shocked if Danny doesn't flip at least some of them (or others on the roster) in at least one trade.

[apc]

If i was DA i would trade some near future picks for far future pics.

[Endless Paradise]

The premise of this thread is exactly why it confuses me to see that people are advocating for acquiring even more picks. There's a point of diminishing returns.

[Evantime34]

If we end up with 4 first round picks at least one will be traded or used to pick a foreign player that won't come over for a few years.

That being said, I was really surprised we drafted 3 players that stuck with the team this year so I could be wrong.

To me it makes sense to bring back 2 or 3 of our upcoming free agents then drafting 2 or 3 players  then targeting big ticket free agents with the other leftover spot.

[apc]

Larry Bird shares your concerns : "He’s got a lot of assets and a lot of different types of players,” Bird said. “I don’t know all the draft picks he has. I hear he’s got quite a few.”

Bird then smiled.

“But do me a favor,” he said, “and tell Danny he can only have 15 players on the team.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2015/11/larry_bird_feels_growing_pains_of_danny_ainge_celtics

[Quetzalcoatl]

Zhou Qi, Timothe Luwawu, my boy from last year: Aleksandar Vezenkov, Alpha Kaba, George de Paula....we're good! 

If we draft Furkan Korkmaz though, I want to play him right away.

[bergerac33]

Thank you guys for the feedback.

It is true there are 5-6 players on the roster that we can easily remove from next years roster if we deem necessary.
My concern is that all but David lee in my opinion would qualify as assets and letting them walk or expire or not match would be a horrible mismanagement by Ainge.

As has been pointed out he even tries to maximixe the value of an obscure 2nd round pick 4 years into the future therefore hard to fathom Ainge wanting to burn any of these assets.
Unfortunately his hand may be forced depending on other teams' needs and the 15 space roster crunch.

[JBcat]

There are also 5 or 6 teams that don't have first round picks this year, and I would guess at least one or 2 of them may want to trade into the draft.  For example we could trade say our worst first pick and a second rounder for a future higher pick, which is a typical Pats move. 

I would also guess some depleted desperate rosters may want trade for some of our deep team come trade deadline for the playoff push.

[Greyman]

There are also 5 or 6 teams that don't have first round picks this year, and I would guess at least one or 2 of them may want to trade into the draft.  For example we could trade say our worst first pick and a second rounder for a future higher pick, which is a typical Pats move. 

I would also guess some depleted desperate rosters may want trade for some of our deep team come trade deadline for the playoff push.

This. I feel confident that DA isn't going to let any decent asset walk out the door. Though teams may try to fleece us, across the whole league there are many team needing players and lots of deal possibilities. DA is holding a very good hand as I see it.