Evan Fournier a potential target? 19 pts per game, 47.5%FG and 38% from three...

[chambers]

19 points, 2 assists, 4 rebounds, 1 steal per game. Shooting 38% from three (his average last season), and 47.5% total FG.

They've got Oladipo, Tobias Harris, Heznoja, Gordon and Payton as their other wings.
Fournier plays either SG or SG and at 6'7" he can play both.

He's a restricted free agent at the end of this season, and if the Magic want max room to go after max free agents, they won't be able to match certain offers unless they trade away Tobias Harris (another opportunity for us?).

Anyone been watching Fourier? He's been pretty awesome this year. Only 8 games but he's much more aggressive on offense and plays scrappy, solid defense.

Do yourself a favor and watch some footage of this year, and looks at his stats. He's ballin.
Question with this guy is how much better can he get?
He just turned 23 and his still 2-3 years away from his prime...Can he become the Manu Ginobli for a contender in the East?

The other question is, if they pay Fournier, will they prefer to keep Harris or Fournier?
I think we'll have a pretty good shot at getting one of Harrison Barnes, Tobias Harris or Fournier at the end of the season because their teams can't pay them what they want.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Only if he falls on our lap, I have no interest in giving anything of actual value for him.

[Eddie20]

He can't cover 3s. He's too weak and gets physcally dominated. He reminds me a lot of Sasha Vujacic, which isn't a good thing. Bradley is the superior player, plus we have invested on talent that can play the 2 such as Smart, Hunter, Rozier, and Young. Strong pass.

[chambers]

He can't cover 3s. He's too weak and gets physcally dominated. He reminds me a lot of Sasha Vujacic, which isn't a good thing. Bradley is the superior player, plus we have invested on talent that can play the 2 such as Smart, Hunter, Rozier, and Young. Strong pass.

He's primarily a shooting guard. I would have thought exactly the same thing, that he's soft and might be a back up shooting guard/small forward combo guy ala Matt Barnes...but his play so far this season is completely different and he's taken another step. He's actually a very physical defender and fights through screens. Very scrappy.

He's been better than Avery Bradley this season and you need to watch him.

[chambers]

Had a very good game again against the Pacers and Paul George today (which I hadn't seen before making this post in all honesty).

http://orlandomagicdaily.com/2015/11/08/evan-fourniers-offense-improved/

Evan Fournier was about the only player who did a really good job for much of the game — save his first quarter defense on Paul George.

Fournier continued his torrid offensive pace, scoring 21 points on 7-for-13 shooting. He was better at making shots than anyone else and was more efficient taking the ball through the paint.

The only thing he really did wrong all night was get caught a step slow defending Paul George in the first quarter. George had 19 points in the first quarter, much of them on Fournier as he tried chasing George around.

[kozlodoev]

Anyone been watching Fourier? He's been pretty awesome this year. Only 8 games but he's much more aggressive on offense and plays scrappy, solid defense.

Don't look now, but there's another player in a contract year who's vastly overperforming his career production.

Also, it's Fournier. Fourier is a French mathematician

[BDeCosta26]

I actually think if his improvement continues at this pace all year it could make Tobias Harris more available. I think Orlando sees Payton/Oladipo/Hezejonia/Gordon/C to be named later as it's likely core going forward. A guy like Evan Fournier performing at his recent level would fit in either starting or off the bench with that group, and doesn't really take away from the ability of others to produce. Harris or Oladipo would seem to be the ones with a chance of becoming expendable if they choose to buy into Fournier long term.

I probably wouldn't trade much for Fournier. Much like RJ, he really has to play the 2 most of the time cause he's not strong or physically crafty enough to consistently guard 3's in this league. PG13 torched him last night. I'd be interested in both Harris and Oladipo though. Harris would fill our starting hole at the 3, can play the small ball 4 well and can consistently get buckets for the starters. Oladipo is a curious case. Strong defender, can rack up stats. I think he might be a perfect fit next to Smart, but we already have a lot of guards and I think Oladipo is only like a year younger than AB. Plus, the idea of putting Smart next to a 2 guard who's a strong defender and can handle the ball is why you drafted Rozier and Hunter. Not sure I'd give up a ton for him, maybe a little more for Harris. I wonder what they'd want though.

[Who]

Didn't Fournier start out the gate strong last year too?

Then tailed off badly after the first few weeks past. I wouldn't put much stock in his play at this point. Needs to show he can sustain it. Especially after past failures to sustain strong play.

[PhoSita]

Why would Orlando trade him?  Cost controlled, young, and provides a skillset they need, starting or off the bench.

[Eddie20]

He can't cover 3s. He's too weak and gets physcally dominated. He reminds me a lot of Sasha Vujacic, which isn't a good thing. Bradley is the superior player, plus we have invested on talent that can play the 2 such as Smart, Hunter, Rozier, and Young. Strong pass.

He's primarily a shooting guard. I would have thought exactly the same thing, that he's soft and might be a back up shooting guard/small forward combo guy ala Matt Barnes...but his play so far this season is completely different and he's taken another step. He's actually a very physical defender and fights through screens. Very scrappy.

He's been better than Avery Bradley this season and you need to watch him.

I've seen him play, which is why I made the comparison. I don't think he's soft, but he's weak and can't cover 3's. He's a feisty player, who is very streaky, good in transition, but has poor shot selection. He's an average athlete for an NBA 2 guard with limited upside. Hezonja will be taking his job as early as next season.

[chambers]

Why would Orlando trade him?  Cost controlled, young, and provides a skillset they need, starting or off the bench.

Overloaded with young/talented wing players and he's restricted free agent.
They can't pay him and keep Tobias Harris. Well they can but that would mean no future cap room for free agents and no significant expirings, so the consensus is that one of Harris or Fournier won't be with the team after this summer.

[chambers]

Didn't Fournier start out the gate strong last year too?

Then tailed off badly after the first few weeks past. I wouldn't put much stock in his play at this point. Needs to show he can sustain it. Especially after past failures to sustain strong play.

He's playing better this year. More aggressive/assertive on both ends.
Still shooting well from deep.
The point of the thread is actually about if he kept up these stats, could he be a target for us in the offseason? And can he keep getting better? How much better?

[chambers]

He can't cover 3s. He's too weak and gets physcally dominated. He reminds me a lot of Sasha Vujacic, which isn't a good thing. Bradley is the superior player, plus we have invested on talent that can play the 2 such as Smart, Hunter, Rozier, and Young. Strong pass.

He's primarily a shooting guard. I would have thought exactly the same thing, that he's soft and might be a back up shooting guard/small forward combo guy ala Matt Barnes...but his play so far this season is completely different and he's taken another step. He's actually a very physical defender and fights through screens. Very scrappy.

He's been better than Avery Bradley this season and you need to watch him.

I've seen him play, which is why I made the comparison. I don't think he's soft, but he's weak and can't cover 3's. He's a feisty player, who is very streaky, good in transition, but has poor shot selection. He's an average athlete for an NBA 2 guard with limited upside. Hezonja will be taking his job as early as next season.

Watch him this season. His shot selection has greatly improved and he's taking it to the hole.
Shot selection is significantly better. I've watched every Magic game so far.
You could be right about Heznoja- but Mario is proving to be a terrible NBA defender so far. Skiles won't give him extended minutes any time soon.

[chambers]

I actually think if his improvement continues at this pace all year it could make Tobias Harris more available. I think Orlando sees Payton/Oladipo/Hezejonia/Gordon/C to be named later as it's likely core going forward. A guy like Evan Fournier performing at his recent level would fit in either starting or off the bench with that group, and doesn't really take away from the ability of others to produce. Harris or Oladipo would seem to be the ones with a chance of becoming expendable if they choose to buy into Fournier long term.

I probably wouldn't trade much for Fournier. Much like RJ, he really has to play the 2 most of the time cause he's not strong or physically crafty enough to consistently guard 3's in this league. PG13 torched him last night. I'd be interested in both Harris and Oladipo though. Harris would fill our starting hole at the 3, can play the small ball 4 well and can consistently get buckets for the starters. Oladipo is a curious case. Strong defender, can rack up stats. I think he might be a perfect fit next to Smart, but we already have a lot of guards and I think Oladipo is only like a year younger than AB. Plus, the idea of putting Smart next to a 2 guard who's a strong defender and can handle the ball is why you drafted Rozier and Hunter. Not sure I'd give up a ton for him, maybe a little more for Harris. I wonder what they'd want though.

Yeah that's the dilemma...Fournier has looked better than Harris so far. He's carrying them at the moment and they've been really competitive.
He could crash and burn but his play has definitely improved.

[slamtheking]

Didn't Fournier start out the gate strong last year too?

Then tailed off badly after the first few weeks past. I wouldn't put much stock in his play at this point. Needs to show he can sustain it. Especially after past failures to sustain strong play.

He's playing better this year. More aggressive/assertive on both ends.
Still shooting well from deep.
The point of the thread is actually about if he kept up these stats, could he be a target for us in the offseason? And can he keep getting better? How much better?

I seem to recall people were hot to get this guy last year when he started out well and then dropped off the radar when his impressive start was just that -- only a start.

I'm hoping the kids we already have on our roster turn out to be better than Fournier within the next year or two.  Can't see adding yet another SG that's not a significant upgrade over what we have.