Celtics (2-3) at Bucks (4-3) Game #6 11/10/15

[esel1000]

Great 42 minutes of play after a slow first 6 or so minutes.  I'm really happy with this game.  Put up 99 points so far even with IT playing like garbage.  Even better is that we held the Bucks to 83 points on 41% shooting.

Key point here. Even with a bad shooting IT we won by 16. Big. CBS finding those rotations that work

I think IT4 has played poorly since the second half of last game, I thought he had a terrible 3rd Q last game and that's not considering shooting.

When you get double teamed often but are still able to quickly get the ball to another player, I can't say you are not playing well.

He has had turnovers, poor shooting, holds the ball too long and his defense makes everyone suck over to help which causes a ripple effect.

No one denies he can put the ball in the hole or pass it but to be blind to other things is weird.

idk I think he's made some good plays. Shots just weren't falling tonight it's not like he's taking bad shots but he got into the paint a lot which opened up the perimeter for our shooters. He's definitely a key cog on this team, it's a great sign that we can win by a large margin with him having an off night though

[takeittotherim]

He was projected to go anywhere from 10 to 20 in the draft and lucky for the C's he fell.  Just think of the teams who desperately need shooters (like the Grizzlies) who were considering him, but passed because they felt he couldn't defend in the league... Boy were they wrong..

[max215]

He was projected to go anywhere from 10 to 20 in the draft and lucky for the C's he fell.  Just think of the teams who desperately need shooters (like the Grizzlies) who were considering him, but passed because they felt he couldn't defend in the league... Boy were they wrong..

That Martin pick by the Grizz may have been one of the worst picks of the draft. They took Mickey's inferior frontcourt mate over him and passed on filling a real need.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Great 42 minutes of play after a slow first 6 or so minutes.  I'm really happy with this game.  Put up 99 points so far even with IT playing like garbage.  Even better is that we held the Bucks to 83 points on 41% shooting.

Key point here. Even with a bad shooting IT we won by 16. Big. CBS finding those rotations that work

I think IT4 has played poorly since the second half of last game, I thought he had a terrible 3rd Q last game and that's not considering shooting.

When you get double teamed often but are still able to quickly get the ball to another player, I can't say you are not playing well.

He has had turnovers, poor shooting, holds the ball too long and his defense makes everyone suck over to help which causes a ripple effect.

No one denies he can put the ball in the hole or pass it but to be blind to other things is weird.

idk I think he's made some good plays. Shots just weren't falling tonight it's not like he's taking bad shots but he got into the paint a lot which opened up the perimeter for our shooters. He's definitely a key cog on this team, it's a great sign that we can win by a large margin with him having an off night though

so how did you miss when I said it wasn't taking into account his poor shooting. I'm of the mindset a good shooter/scorer will have their off games, that doesn't bother me. I just think he gets a huge pass for other things that guys like ET get ripped for.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

He was projected to go anywhere from 10 to 20 in the draft and lucky for the C's he fell.  Just think of the teams who desperately need shooters (like the Grizzlies) who were considering him, but passed because they felt he couldn't defend in the league... Boy were they wrong..

That Martin pick by the Grizz may have been one of the worst picks of the draft. They took Mickey's inferior frontcourt mate over him and passed on filling a real need.

DA was so happy he fell, he almost sounded like a kid on XMAS.

[esel1000]

Great 42 minutes of play after a slow first 6 or so minutes.  I'm really happy with this game.  Put up 99 points so far even with IT playing like garbage.  Even better is that we held the Bucks to 83 points on 41% shooting.

Key point here. Even with a bad shooting IT we won by 16. Big. CBS finding those rotations that work

I think IT4 has played poorly since the second half of last game, I thought he had a terrible 3rd Q last game and that's not considering shooting.

When you get double teamed often but are still able to quickly get the ball to another player, I can't say you are not playing well.

He has had turnovers, poor shooting, holds the ball too long and his defense makes everyone suck over to help which causes a ripple effect.

No one denies he can put the ball in the hole or pass it but to be blind to other things is weird.

idk I think he's made some good plays. Shots just weren't falling tonight it's not like he's taking bad shots but he got into the paint a lot which opened up the perimeter for our shooters. He's definitely a key cog on this team, it's a great sign that we can win by a large margin with him having an off night though

so how did you miss when I said it wasn't taking into account his poor shooting. I'm of the mindset a good shooter/scorer will have their off games, that doesn't bother me. I just think he gets a huge pass for other things that guys like ET get ripped for.

You mentioned poor shooting on your last post. But look I see what you're saying, I think part of is that IT is a better scorer so people care less when he goes hero ball... but yeah both are prone to their share of offensive dumb plays, though honestly I've seen Turner make some dumber plays overall (though thought he was extremely efficient tonight)

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Great 42 minutes of play after a slow first 6 or so minutes.  I'm really happy with this game.  Put up 99 points so far even with IT playing like garbage.  Even better is that we held the Bucks to 83 points on 41% shooting.

Key point here. Even with a bad shooting IT we won by 16. Big. CBS finding those rotations that work

I think IT4 has played poorly since the second half of last game, I thought he had a terrible 3rd Q last game and that's not considering shooting.

When you get double teamed often but are still able to quickly get the ball to another player, I can't say you are not playing well.

He has had turnovers, poor shooting, holds the ball too long and his defense makes everyone suck over to help which causes a ripple effect.

No one denies he can put the ball in the hole or pass it but to be blind to other things is weird.

idk I think he's made some good plays. Shots just weren't falling tonight it's not like he's taking bad shots but he got into the paint a lot which opened up the perimeter for our shooters. He's definitely a key cog on this team, it's a great sign that we can win by a large margin with him having an off night though

so how did you miss when I said it wasn't taking into account his poor shooting. I'm of the mindset a good shooter/scorer will have their off games, that doesn't bother me. I just think he gets a huge pass for other things that guys like ET get ripped for.

You mentioned poor shooting on your last post. But look I see what you're saying, I think part of is that IT is a better scorer so people care less when he goes hero ball... but yeah both are prone to their share of offensive dumb plays, though honestly I've seen Turner make some dumber plays overall (though thought he was extremely efficient tonight)

I only mentioned it because you answered my original post where I wasn't talking about his offense. Since the 3rd Q of the Wiz game, I just haven't liked what I was seeing and I'm not talking about his scoring. He does so many negative things that no one ever mentions, but people lay into ET every time he makes a mistake.

[crimson_stallion]

All of our wins are blowouts so far. Good!

Yep, and with the exception of one (against the Raptors) all our losses have been pretty close.

Celtics are now 3-3 with the 5th best win differential in the East (only 0.5 behind Atlanta and Toronto for 3rd and 4th best). 

I said we should allow about 8 to 10 games played before we start to judge how good these Celtics are.  We are 6 games in now, and we're starting to see it.

[SparzWizard]

And the tank city people are gone tonight! 

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

All of our wins are blowouts so far. Good!

Yep, and with the exception of one (against the Raptors) all our losses have been pretty close.

Celtics are now 3-3 with the 5th best win differential in the East (only 0.5 behind Atlanta and Toronto for 3rd and 4th best). 

I said we should allow about 8 to 10 games played before we start to judge how good these Celtics are.  We are 6 games in now, and we're starting to see it.

we broke the wizards back, they haven't recovered yet!

[BudweiserCeltic]

This game will be watched from by brand new NBA League Pass.

Not for nothing, but last time I bought the NBA League Pass we won a championship. Sorry for the jinx.

Everything occurring now is my fault. Sorry guys.

As I said, everything was my fault! :p

[crimson_stallion]

Great 42 minutes of play after a slow first 6 or so minutes.  I'm really happy with this game.  Put up 99 points so far even with IT playing like garbage.  Even better is that we held the Bucks to 83 points on 41% shooting.

Key point here. Even with a bad shooting IT we won by 16. Big. CBS finding those rotations that work

I think IT4 has played poorly since the second half of last game, I thought he had a terrible 3rd Q last game and that's not considering shooting.

When you get double teamed often but are still able to quickly get the ball to another player, I can't say you are not playing well.

He has had turnovers, poor shooting, holds the ball too long and his defense makes everyone suck over to help which causes a ripple effect.

No one denies he can put the ball in the hole or pass it but to be blind to other things is weird.

idk I think he's made some good plays. Shots just weren't falling tonight it's not like he's taking bad shots but he got into the paint a lot which opened up the perimeter for our shooters. He's definitely a key cog on this team, it's a great sign that we can win by a large margin with him having an off night though

so how did you miss when I said it wasn't taking into account his poor shooting. I'm of the mindset a good shooter/scorer will have their off games, that doesn't bother me. I just think he gets a huge pass for other things that guys like ET get ripped for.

You mentioned poor shooting on your last post. But look I see what you're saying, I think part of is that IT is a better scorer so people care less when he goes hero ball... but yeah both are prone to their share of offensive dumb plays, though honestly I've seen Turner make some dumber plays overall (though thought he was extremely efficient tonight)

I only mentioned it because you answered my original post where I wasn't talking about his offense. Since the 3rd Q of the Wiz game, I just haven't liked what I was seeing and I'm not talking about his scoring. He does so many negative things that no one ever mentions, but people lay into ET every time he makes a mistake.

IT's turnovers have been on the high side this year, but he's also averaging 6 assists in only 30 minutes a night, along with 2 steals a game. 

He's certainly got some flaws in his game, but pretty much everybody does.  You can't underestimate how important he is to this team - the impact he has on offense.  We desperately need the offensive production he gives us, especially in clutch situations.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Great 42 minutes of play after a slow first 6 or so minutes.  I'm really happy with this game.  Put up 99 points so far even with IT playing like garbage.  Even better is that we held the Bucks to 83 points on 41% shooting.

Key point here. Even with a bad shooting IT we won by 16. Big. CBS finding those rotations that work

I think IT4 has played poorly since the second half of last game, I thought he had a terrible 3rd Q last game and that's not considering shooting.

When you get double teamed often but are still able to quickly get the ball to another player, I can't say you are not playing well.

He has had turnovers, poor shooting, holds the ball too long and his defense makes everyone suck over to help which causes a ripple effect.

No one denies he can put the ball in the hole or pass it but to be blind to other things is weird.

idk I think he's made some good plays. Shots just weren't falling tonight it's not like he's taking bad shots but he got into the paint a lot which opened up the perimeter for our shooters. He's definitely a key cog on this team, it's a great sign that we can win by a large margin with him having an off night though

so how did you miss when I said it wasn't taking into account his poor shooting. I'm of the mindset a good shooter/scorer will have their off games, that doesn't bother me. I just think he gets a huge pass for other things that guys like ET get ripped for.

You mentioned poor shooting on your last post. But look I see what you're saying, I think part of is that IT is a better scorer so people care less when he goes hero ball... but yeah both are prone to their share of offensive dumb plays, though honestly I've seen Turner make some dumber plays overall (though thought he was extremely efficient tonight)

I only mentioned it because you answered my original post where I wasn't talking about his offense. Since the 3rd Q of the Wiz game, I just haven't liked what I was seeing and I'm not talking about his scoring. He does so many negative things that no one ever mentions, but people lay into ET every time he makes a mistake.

IT's turnovers have been on the high side this year, but he's also averaging 6 assists in only 30 minutes a night, along with 2 steals a game. 

He's certainly got some flaws in his game, but pretty much everybody does.  You can't underestimate how important he is to this team - the impact he has on offense.  We desperately need the offensive production he gives us, especially in clutch situations.

don't read things from my posts that aren't there, IT4 is one of my fave Celts, of course we need him offensively, we need a spark like him. I loved how we stole him from PHX for pennies. He has to also be looked at when he is not doing his most valuable thing. I'm not even talking about all season as I have said a few times, it's been from the 3rd Q of the wiz game until today.

I have no doubt that he will find his way but he has been struggling.

[crimson_stallion]

Correcting myself here - Boston in fact now has the 3rd best win differential in the East and 7th best in the NBA (+5.5).

It had not yet updated when I posted the previous results.

Link:
http://au.global.nba.com/standings/

[crimson_stallion]

Great 42 minutes of play after a slow first 6 or so minutes.  I'm really happy with this game.  Put up 99 points so far even with IT playing like garbage.  Even better is that we held the Bucks to 83 points on 41% shooting.

Key point here. Even with a bad shooting IT we won by 16. Big. CBS finding those rotations that work

I think IT4 has played poorly since the second half of last game, I thought he had a terrible 3rd Q last game and that's not considering shooting.

When you get double teamed often but are still able to quickly get the ball to another player, I can't say you are not playing well.

He has had turnovers, poor shooting, holds the ball too long and his defense makes everyone suck over to help which causes a ripple effect.

No one denies he can put the ball in the hole or pass it but to be blind to other things is weird.

idk I think he's made some good plays. Shots just weren't falling tonight it's not like he's taking bad shots but he got into the paint a lot which opened up the perimeter for our shooters. He's definitely a key cog on this team, it's a great sign that we can win by a large margin with him having an off night though

so how did you miss when I said it wasn't taking into account his poor shooting. I'm of the mindset a good shooter/scorer will have their off games, that doesn't bother me. I just think he gets a huge pass for other things that guys like ET get ripped for.

You mentioned poor shooting on your last post. But look I see what you're saying, I think part of is that IT is a better scorer so people care less when he goes hero ball... but yeah both are prone to their share of offensive dumb plays, though honestly I've seen Turner make some dumber plays overall (though thought he was extremely efficient tonight)

I only mentioned it because you answered my original post where I wasn't talking about his offense. Since the 3rd Q of the Wiz game, I just haven't liked what I was seeing and I'm not talking about his scoring. He does so many negative things that no one ever mentions, but people lay into ET every time he makes a mistake.

IT's turnovers have been on the high side this year, but he's also averaging 6 assists in only 30 minutes a night, along with 2 steals a game. 

He's certainly got some flaws in his game, but pretty much everybody does.  You can't underestimate how important he is to this team - the impact he has on offense.  We desperately need the offensive production he gives us, especially in clutch situations.

don't read things from my posts that aren't there, IT4 is one of my fave Celts, of course we need him offensively, we need a spark like him. I loved how we stole him from PHX for pennies. He has to also be looked at when he is not doing his most valuable thing. I'm not even talking about all season as I have said a few times, it's been from the 3rd Q of the wiz game until today.

I have no doubt that he will find his way but he has been struggling.

I know what you're saying, but I don't think there is anybody here who has ever tried to argue that Isaiah is the perfect player. 

I think we all recognize that he has his faults too.

He'll be fine though.  I really want Smart back so Thomas get come off the bench again.  I honestly think he is more effective in that role - not facing as tough defense, easier for him to remain efficient.