When, if at all, do the Nets trade assets?

[mef730]

If* the Nets continue to be horrible, do they start dumping assets, and when? I guess they could hold onto everyone and hope that they make out in the free agent market in 2016, but it seems to make more sense to consider selling what you can this year for draft picks. If you're the Nets, how long do you wait before making the calls. You can't do it quite yet, since the "bubble" teams that will give you something for Lopez or Young don't know that they're on the bubble yet. On the other hand, you can't wait too long, since you risk injury.

How bad does it have to get and how long do they wait? I do fully understand that this is not a management that has shown a lot of common sense, but at some point, they have to give up on 2016.  And 17.

Mike

*I say "if" just to avoid the jinx factor.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

I think they think they can be FA players... I have no idea why they think this, but they will have a ton of room.

If they strike out in FA this summer(and on meaningful signings, they will) then the 2017 deadline is a definite possibility.

Go read the post game recaps on Nets Daily BTW. I've seen less powerful volcanic eruptions.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Here is the thing: if you Google Image Search for "Nets GM," here is the actual top result:



That man does not believe in draft picks

[PhoSita]

The return in a trade for Brook Lopez, Thad Young, and Joe Johnson is not likely to be much.

Best route for the Nets is probably to simply gut through this year, see if they have anything in guys like Larkin, Hollis-Jefferson, Robinson, Bogdanovic, etc, and then use cap space next summer to try and cobble together a team that can compete for the playoffs in 2017 and 2018.


My main free agent targets, if I were them, would be Conley, Derozan, Nic Batum, Gerald Henderson, Eric Gordon, Luol Deng, Jeff Green, Brandon Jennings, and Marvin Williams.

Adding a few of those guys to what they already have in Young and Lopez would put them in position to compete for bottom playoff seeds for at least a couple years, which is the best they can really hope to accomplish in the near future.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

The return in a trade for Brook Lopez, Thad Young, and Joe Johnson is not likely to be much.

Best route for the Nets is probably to simply gut through this year, see if they have anything in guys like Larkin, Hollis-Jefferson, Robinson, Bogdanovic, etc, and then use cap space next summer to try and cobble together a team that can compete for the playoffs in 2017 and 2018.

You're not getting anything for Thad or Johnson. But I think Brook Lopez on that contract has value. I could see a team in the Sacramento/New Orleans/Dallas method of building could toss them some picks. Not those teams specifically, just the recent methods they've used to build their rosters.

Or maybe a bad team that "hits" in FA like LAL would use him to shore up the center position.

IDK, but I think there's probably a deal out there if he stays healthy.

[sofutomygaha]

It's so hard to trade for 1st rounders, but they'd have to try to get some for Lopez, in my opinion, if they are in the cellar at the trade deadline. Can you imagine finishing at the bottom and then not having any draft picks? I can't imagine it; they'd have to do whatever they can to get back in the draft.

There are a lot of potential customers and scenarios. One is that Charlotte is a surprise contender but Al Jefferson gets hurt. Another is that the Wizards have decided this is their year and they want to upgrade on Nene. Still another is that the Pacers are surprise contenders and they decide they would like to have a center on their team. Maybe Portland or Dallas would be interested-- they also have salaries to make it work.

[AngryAndIrritable]

I think we're looking at about 25-30 games in. If the Nets are still doing as badly as they have been so far, they need to see what they can get for Lopez. Until that point it would be too early to tell who would be in a position to want him.

They're going to stink for a good few years yet, and the quicker they reach the 'acceptance' stage of their stinkitude the quicker they'll be done.

[manl_lui]

we're only 5 games in? give them time

[spikelovetheCelts]

It's so hard to trade for 1st rounders, but they'd have to try to get some for Lopez, in my opinion, if they are in the cellar at the trade deadline. Can you imagine finishing at the bottom and then not having any draft picks? I can't imagine it; they'd have to do whatever they can to get back in the draft.

There are a lot of potential customers and scenarios. One is that Charlotte is a surprise contender but Al Jefferson gets hurt. Another is that the Wizards have decided this is their year and they want to upgrade on Nene. Still another is that the Pacers are surprise contenders and they decide they would like to have a center on their team. Maybe Portland or Dallas would be interested-- they also have salaries to make it work.

Man Danny Ainge rocks. I smiled watching the nets sucking so hard against the hawks last night. If we get Ben Simmons i will be pumped.

[PhoSita]

It's so hard to trade for 1st rounders, but they'd have to try to get some for Lopez, in my opinion, if they are in the cellar at the trade deadline. Can you imagine finishing at the bottom and then not having any draft picks? I can't imagine it; they'd have to do whatever they can to get back in the draft.

The thing is, they don't have any first rounders in the upcoming years, either, so unless they trade Brook for not just one pick, but multiple picks, things only get worse for the team in the future, and they won't even be able to count on getting picks out of it.  What you're talking about is basically going into Sixers mode in order to get a pick that'll probably fall in the 15-25 range, and then trying to pick up the pieces next summer without any above average NBA players to lure free agents.

I think when you place it in the context of "they don't own their own 1st round pick until 2019," it doesn't make sense for them to intentionally takes steps backward, even if it yields a lesser pick or two this year.

If they could trade Brook for a couple of likely lottery picks, then yeah, go for it.  But who's gonna make that deal?


Like I said above, I think the only hope for them for the next 3-5 years is to build through free agency.  If they can acquire some late 1sts / early 2nds and turn them into rotation players, that would help them a lot. 

The only way they're going to convince any second or third tier free agents to sign there will be having a couple of guys already in place.  Thaddeus Young and Brook Lopez aren't exactly a world-beating duo, but the Nets have made the playoffs with those guys before, at least.

[mef730]

My main free agent targets, if I were them, would be Conley, Derozan, Nic Batum, Gerald Henderson, Eric Gordon, Luol Deng, Jeff Green, Brandon Jennings, and Marvin Williams.

Adding a few of those guys to what they already have in Young and Lopez would put them in position to compete for bottom playoff seeds for at least a couple years, which is the best they can really hope to accomplish in the near future.

Funny, my thought also was that it would be Conley or Derozan, too, as their targets. I can't see how Memphis lets Conley get away, but Derozan is possible, I guess. But if you are either of those two players, you have way more attractive options.

The Nets have one first-round draft pick in the next three years, so I don't see much from the draft. I can't see how trying to compete for the last playoff spot, which you probably can't get, is preferable to just throwing it all out and getting what you can, while you can get it, but I guess that's easy for me to say, since the Celtics would be the prime beneficiary of this strategy.

Mike

[Eddie20]

What asserts? Can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh...

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

My main free agent targets, if I were them, would be Conley, Derozan, Nic Batum, Gerald Henderson, Eric Gordon, Luol Deng, Jeff Green, Brandon Jennings, and Marvin Williams.

Adding a few of those guys to what they already have in Young and Lopez would put them in position to compete for bottom playoff seeds for at least a couple years, which is the best they can really hope to accomplish in the near future.

Funny, my thought also was that it would be Conley or Derozan, too, as their targets. I can't see how Memphis lets Conley get away, but Derozan is possible, I guess. But if you are either of those two players, you have way more attractive options.

The Nets have one first-round draft pick in the next three years, so I don't see much from the draft. I can't see how trying to compete for the last playoff spot, which you probably can't get, is preferable to just throwing it all out and getting what you can, while you can get it, but I guess that's easy for me to say, since the Celtics would be the prime beneficiary of this strategy.

Mike

They're going to try to get one of those guys before they completely blow it up though. At the very least they're playing out the string this year in my opinion.

It's the first time Billy King has had cap space in forever, he's going to try and spend like a drunken sailor this summer.