Will Nets set record for NBA futility?

[mef730]

I still think that over an 82 game season, it'll take a long term injury to Lopez or Young to result in the kind of utter futility you're talking about.

That said, the Nets team that won 12 games back in 2010 had Brook Lopez putting up 18 and 8 for 82 games, in addition to Devin Harris putting up 17 and 6 for over 60 games, and Courtney Lee playing at his usual OK level for 70+ games.

The only person on that team who shot over 50% from the field was Josh Boone.

If the Nets continue to get nothing from their supporting cast and Jack and Joe continue to play like they're almost totally washed up, then a bottom 5 record is absolutely in play.

I explored this exact comparison at my Nets blog.

In short, there are a lot of fun reasons to give some extra weight to your "that said," namely that both teams shared similar roster compositions, 3-point shooting woes and statistical harbingers early in their seasons.

Your site is hysterical. For those not reading it, add it to your feedly.

Mike

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

I think this is a lot more realistic than people realize. Are people on here watching their games? Joe Johnson has fell off a cliff. He may just have been flattened by father time, but he is a guy that should be maybe playing 15-18 minutes off the bench for a playoff team. Asking him to play 30 is ridiculous (like it would be for pierce or kg right now). Jack is a very competitive player and also probably would serve as an ok spark plug off the bench for a team that could at least sniff the playoffs and has a few more vets).

Then you got brook, young and RHJ who isn't ready. The rest of the roster is not NBA rotation players. It is a complete disaster.

The Nets fans at Reddit & RealGM are CONVINCED that RHJ is a superstar in waiting and that the only thing holding them back is he mouthed off at Hollins.  RHJ is a decent piece and Hollins is a terrible coach, but it's so cute to watch them complain about it.  They think they'll basically make the playoffs if they start Larkin/RHJ/Bogdanovic/Young/Lopez which is hilarious.

I mean he's probably ready to be a good wing defender who blows rotations because he's a rookie but that's about it...

[celticsclay]

They are continuing to inch along. Touch to see where they get the wins. Last night was one of their best opportunities.

[SHAQATTACK]

It will be a hard game to win, after last night loss at home to the wretched Lakers ....travel to Mil to meet the Bucks in their house.

I would be surprised if the Nets can get up for a road win tonight.

[PhoSita]

I still think that over an 82 game season, it'll take a long term injury to Lopez or Young to result in the kind of utter futility you're talking about.

That said, the Nets team that won 12 games back in 2010 had Brook Lopez putting up 18 and 8 for 82 games, in addition to Devin Harris putting up 17 and 6 for over 60 games, and Courtney Lee playing at his usual OK level for 70+ games.

The only person on that team who shot over 50% from the field was Josh Boone.

If the Nets continue to get nothing from their supporting cast and Jack and Joe continue to play like they're almost totally washed up, then a bottom 5 record is absolutely in play.

I explored this exact comparison at my Nets blog.

In short, there are a lot of fun reasons to give some extra weight to your "that said," namely that both teams shared similar roster compositions, 3-point shooting woes and statistical harbingers early in their seasons.

Your site is hysterical. For those not reading it, add it to your feedly.

Mike

Agreed, that was a really good read. I'll be sure to check back on the site in the future. Billy Kingmaker is a great title.

[celticsclay]

Phosita you starting to pump breaks on your summer long 32-35 win prediction?

[PhoSita]

Phosita you starting to pump breaks on your summer long 32-35 win prediction?

Things are certainly looking good for the Nets to crash well below that prediction.

Still, it's early yet.

My heart says, "YESSSS THE SWEET LOSSES PLEASE LOSE MORE I WANT THAT TOP PICK THE CELTS NEEEEED SO BADLY."

My head still thinks that being in the Eastern Conference with no incentive to tank will raise the floor for the Nets higher than we'd like. 

My belief remains that we're gonna need an injury to Brook Lopez or Thad Young to get us to the promised land of sub-20 wins.  But, on the flip side, it looks like Jarrett Jack and Joe Johnson could play all 82 games and that might be to our benefit.

[Rondo9]

Phosita you starting to pump breaks on your summer long 32-35 win prediction?

Things are certainly looking good for the Nets to crash well below that prediction.

Still, it's early yet.

My heart says, "YESSSS THE SWEET LOSSES PLEASE LOSE MORE I WANT THAT TOP PICK THE CELTS NEEEEED SO BADLY."

My head still thinks that being in the Eastern Conference with no incentive to tank will raise the floor for the Nets higher than we'd like. 

My belief remains that we're gonna need an injury to Brook Lopez or Thad Young to get us to the promised land of sub-20 wins.  But, on the flip side, it looks like Jarrett Jack and Joe Johnson could play all 82 games and that might be to our benefit.

You can try hard all you want, but if you don't have the talent, then it'll be hard to win.

[Big333223]

Phosita you starting to pump breaks on your summer long 32-35 win prediction?

Things are certainly looking good for the Nets to crash well below that prediction.

Still, it's early yet.

My heart says, "YESSSS THE SWEET LOSSES PLEASE LOSE MORE I WANT THAT TOP PICK THE CELTS NEEEEED SO BADLY."

My head still thinks that being in the Eastern Conference with no incentive to tank will raise the floor for the Nets higher than we'd like. 

My belief remains that we're gonna need an injury to Brook Lopez or Thad Young to get us to the promised land of sub-20 wins.  But, on the flip side, it looks like Jarrett Jack and Joe Johnson could play all 82 games and that might be to our benefit.

I'm with you that its still early something like 32 wins is definitely in play.

The nice thing is that when you look at the 9 Eastern teams that are .500 or better, its hard to imagine any of them falling so hard that the Nets might catch them and those doesn't even include the Celtics. The worst case scenario, right now, would be something like the #10 pick in the draft. And that's not bad at all.

[celticsclay]

Phosita you starting to pump breaks on your summer long 32-35 win prediction?

Things are certainly looking good for the Nets to crash well below that prediction.

Still, it's early yet.

My heart says, "YESSSS THE SWEET LOSSES PLEASE LOSE MORE I WANT THAT TOP PICK THE CELTS NEEEEED SO BADLY."

My head still thinks that being in the Eastern Conference with no incentive to tank will raise the floor for the Nets higher than we'd like. 

My belief remains that we're gonna need an injury to Brook Lopez or Thad Young to get us to the promised land of sub-20 wins.  But, on the flip side, it looks like Jarrett Jack and Joe Johnson could play all 82 games and that might be to our benefit.

I'm with you that its still early something like 32 wins is definitely in play.

The nice thing is that when you look at the 9 Eastern teams that are .500 or better, its hard to imagine any of them falling so hard that the Nets might catch them and those doesn't even include the Celtics. The worst case scenario, right now, would be something like the #10 pick in the draft. And that's not bad at all.

A number 10 pick in the draft would be devastating at this point. That would mean the Nets magically start playing near .500 ball for the season. I am serious that I think the Nets have a significantly better chance of ending the season with 15 wins than 32. Not sure how we get the fellowship of the miserable to finally come around on this and admit they are terrible.

[Big333223]

Phosita you starting to pump breaks on your summer long 32-35 win prediction?

Things are certainly looking good for the Nets to crash well below that prediction.

Still, it's early yet.

My heart says, "YESSSS THE SWEET LOSSES PLEASE LOSE MORE I WANT THAT TOP PICK THE CELTS NEEEEED SO BADLY."

My head still thinks that being in the Eastern Conference with no incentive to tank will raise the floor for the Nets higher than we'd like. 

My belief remains that we're gonna need an injury to Brook Lopez or Thad Young to get us to the promised land of sub-20 wins.  But, on the flip side, it looks like Jarrett Jack and Joe Johnson could play all 82 games and that might be to our benefit.

I'm with you that its still early something like 32 wins is definitely in play.

The nice thing is that when you look at the 9 Eastern teams that are .500 or better, its hard to imagine any of them falling so hard that the Nets might catch them and those doesn't even include the Celtics. The worst case scenario, right now, would be something like the #10 pick in the draft. And that's not bad at all.

A number 10 pick in the draft would be devastating at this point. That would mean the Nets magically start playing near .500 ball for the season. I am serious that I think the Nets have a significantly better chance of ending the season with 15 wins than 32. Not sure how we get the fellowship of the miserable to finally come around on this and admit they are terrible.

I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying it's not crazy to see an initially terrible team see a bit of a turnaround. I don't think it'll happen and I think a 15-win season is in play but I think a 32 win season (which would mean going 32-43 the rest of the way) is also in play.

[Neurotic Guy]

I am afraid of premature giddiness, so I'll withold excitement until Lopez is traded.   With Lopez still around and healthy, I can't see the Nets running away with the race for most ping-pong balls.  They have some talent and some experience -- enough to win 30% of their games (25 games).  Top 5?

[SHAQATTACK]

I think they'll throw in the towel ....get what they can for Lopez and start over .  Probably with a new head coach and GM

[PhoSita]

As I posted in another thread, if you look at the other teams that have started 0-7 over the last 15 years or so, you'll see that things are looking good for the Nets to have a very bad season.  On the other hand, a number of teams finished with 25-29 wins, and a couple even finished with 40+ wins. 

It's early yet.

Things are looking good for us on the Nets front.  I hope it continues. 

[Rondo9]

  On the other hand, a number of teams finished with 25-29 wins, and a couple even finished with 40+ wins. 

Are those teams the exception?