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Re: How about AB?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2015, 06:41:25 PM »

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Very improved with the ball in his hands ...a ton really

Better finishing at rim ....check

Able to contribute on BOTH ends without huge gap on either end ..check

Taking better shots ...YES ......

Issue is the huge inconsistency of makes .   He needs to shoot  a higher percentage like Lowry during the whole game.

It takes him three quarter to get his range on the jumper ......then he goes wild with confidence.


All I know is what Ray Allen preached about shooting hundreds of shots ...morning , noon and night till it is automatic.




Re: How about AB?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2015, 06:52:45 PM »

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It might not have resulted in turnovers today , but i saw multiple times where he fumbled the ball today . If you have a decent defender on him , unless he does his one dribble pull up , he is going to have a hard time making a play.  I like him as a 3 and d/ cutter off the bench , but he is not a starter in my mind . Problem is we don't have anyone better than him right now so he is forced to start . Still would like to see Rozier and Hunter get some time .
he doesn't need to be able to break down his man but he needs to be able to drive the close out when he teams try to run him off the 3.

Re: How about AB?
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2015, 07:07:30 PM »

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Bradley worked on his handle a lot this summer with a handling coach. If anyone is familiar with the guy he's the one who goes by Handle Life I'm not sure what his real name is but I know he worked often with him this off season before he went to work with the whole Dallas Mavericks in training camp

Re: How about AB?
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2015, 07:42:56 PM »

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Bradley is a horrible ball handler and passer . He had one nice dunk, but is a fumbling bumbling mess when he is forced to put the ball on the floor . Backup SG .

That was a horrible turnover late in the game when he drove the lane and just threw the ball to the spurs , when a man was wide open in the corner . He sucks at handling the ball

Oh I disagree.  I think AB's handles have improved a lot.  He had one turnover down the stretch, but he has improved a lot with his handle in the last couple of years.  I even saw him do a decent crossover today.

Again, he is one of the worst ball handlers/ passers in the league for a guard . Not sure what you are watching ?

I am watching some improved ball handling by AB.  I never said he was the best ball handler in the world. I said he has improved.  Nitpicking the (1) I repeat (1) turnover he had today isn't really giving him a fair shake.  If he plays within himself I can live with (1) turnover.

Don't bother - it's just a typical response from the constant sea of pointless Bradley haters that always pop up on this forum. 

1) It's the same group of people who complain that Bradley can't dribble/pass without turning the ball over, even though he is one of our highest usage players and yet also has had one of the lowerst turnover rates on the team for the past 3 or so years

2) It's the same group of people who constantly complain that Bradly is a medicore shooter, even though he has shot between 35% and 40% on 3PT in three in three of his past four seasons

3) It's the same group of people who will try cry about us not Bradley not being a great scorer, then cry when we don't get guys like Aaron Afflafo and Tobias Harris (who are no better as scorers than Bradley is)

4) It's the same group of guys who will constantly try to tell you that Bradley is no longer a good defensive player, even though he ranked 13th at his position in DRPM last year and 6th in the previous year, and is generally perceived around the league as one of the NBA's top perimeter defenders.

5) It's the same group of guys who will complain about Bradley taking too many long two's, even though (at 43% for his career) his been one of the better shooters in the league on those shots

By this point you just have to give up and accept the fact that some people have a completely irrational bias / hatred against Avery Bradley for some completely unknown reason, and that they will always think of things to diss him about.

First it was "AB can't shoot" - then he shot 40% from three twice in three seasons, so that died down.

Then it was "AB can't stay healthy".  Then he played 86% of his possible games over the past two seasons, so that died down.

Then it was that he doesn't score enough - then he stepped up as one of our top 3 scoring options for the past 2 seasons, so that died down.

Then it was "AB can't be a starter on a playoff team" - then we made the playoffs AGAIN with Bradley as our starting SG.

Then it was that his defense has regressed - so far this season he's been playing beastly defense.

Any attempts to try get AB some appreciation for what he does, is completely and utterly wasted on this forum.  It doesn't matter what he does to improve his game, unless Bradley becomes a 20//5/5 All-Star and makes the all defensive first team in the same season, he's never going to get the appreciation he deserves.

As the saying goes, "Haters gonna hate". 

Re: How about AB?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2015, 08:05:03 PM »

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He's a fine NBA player. I agree he can start for several playoff teams.

With the way our roster is assembled, an issue for us is his size. He's often limited to guarding PGs (which he does [dang] well), and while that's fine with Smart guarding SGs, that unit lacks desperately needed scoring.

IT could help fill that void, but related to the above, at times that would necessitate shifting AB to the bench. I'd make that shift, but understand others here don't like that option (or notion of starting IT, in general).
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Re: How about AB?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2015, 08:14:44 PM »

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here we go... AB is an offensive juggernaut.... ::)

Re: How about AB?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2015, 08:17:08 PM »

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Very improved with the ball in his hands ...a ton really

Better finishing at rim ....check

Able to contribute on BOTH ends without huge gap on either end ..check

Taking better shots ...YES ......

Issue is the huge inconsistency of makes .   He needs to shoot  a higher percentage like Lowry during the whole game.

It takes him three quarter to get his range on the jumper ......then he goes wild with confidence.


All I know is what Ray Allen preached about shooting hundreds of shots ...morning , noon and night till it is automatic.

offensively what I can't stand from AB is against good teams or big games or both he tends to disappear. and he always starts to score after the game is in hand and it's already a loss.

Re: How about AB?
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2015, 08:31:06 PM »

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here we go... AB is an offensive juggernaut.... ::)

Who said that? LOL Just stop.
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Re: How about AB?
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2015, 08:44:12 PM »

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AB did well today I thought.

Re: How about AB?
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2015, 08:55:35 PM »

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here we go... AB is an offensive juggernaut.... ::)

Show me one quote where someone alluded to that

Re: How about AB?
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2015, 09:30:22 PM »

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here we go... AB is an offensive juggernaut.... ::)

As the multiple suggestions above, nobody has said this or even hinted at it.

The fact is that Bradley is a quality player who makes a lot of positive contributions to this team, and yet so many people insist on only focusing on his weaknesses.

Bradley is an absolute workhorse and every year you can see he is working to address weaknesses in his game, and every year he does make improvements - whether big or small.  Last year he improved his ball handling, his above the break three, and he greatly developed as a leader in the locker room - but few people acknowledge those improvements.

It almost seems like there is still a huge bunch of people out there who still refuse to give up on the dream that Bradley will one day become a big star.  Every year he comes out and works hard and makes improvements, but unless he magically morphs into a superstar, everything else is seen as a disappointment. 

People need to understand that Bradley never really had star potential from the get go, so it's not fair for people to throw blame onto him just because he hasn't lived up to the unrealistically overblown expectations they have dreamed up.

For example, nobody on this forum ever seems to bag out Crowder for his limitations.  Everybody seems happy to accept the fact that he's just a hard nosed defensive guy, who can score on occasion.  That seems to be enough for people to appreciate him.  But somehow when it comes to Bradley, nothing he does is ever enough.

If it was Crowder who had 18 / 4 / 3 today, and who went on that strong scoring run in the 4th, then everybody on this forum would be raving about how underrated Crowder is, how valuable he is to the team, how much "heart" he has.  But when Bradley does it, the only think anybody brings up is that turnover - the one and only turnover he had in the entire game.  Somehow that overshadows all of the great work he did in almost single handedly bringing Boston back into this game.

18 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 1 turnover in 30 minutes...and somehow that "1 turnover" is the only part that stands out to people.

Nobody is saying Bradley is an offensive beast.  We are just saying that the guy is a good kid, he plays hard, and he contributes a lot.  The guy deserves a bit of appreciation.
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Re: How about AB?
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2015, 09:51:12 PM »

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Bradley worked on his handle a lot this summer with a handling coach. If anyone is familiar with the guy he's the one who goes by Handle Life I'm not sure what his real name is but I know he worked often with him this off season before he went to work with the whole Dallas Mavericks in training camp

I did not know this. TP for the info.
I was pleasantly surprised by his dribble game tonight- something to look forward to.
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Re: How about AB?
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2015, 02:51:37 AM »

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Good to hear the positive reports on AB. I hope he keeps going well. The team will benefit and, if he can step up from being a 'good player' to a higher level (not going to say "All Star"- oops, I did) he will help attract the big name players we desire. I think he already does something to make Boston attractive to potential targets.