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how is rj comparing to other ist round draftees
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if he were drafted today where would he be taken-

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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2015, 01:07:16 PM »

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too early to tell, I like what I see so far in the pre-season, but I want to see more in the regular season...perhaps early 20s or even late teens is my bet for now.

Not gonna lie though, I still kinda wished we grabbed Montrel Harrell somehow...kinda makes me think had he slipped one more slot, would we had taken him or Mickey

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2015, 01:26:45 PM »

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justin anderson cranked up 13 shots hitting 5, then 5 for16 against atlanta seems to have green light playing 22-32min
early pre season he went 2 for 8 and 0 for 4--

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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2015, 03:09:23 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.


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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2015, 03:35:30 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2015, 03:38:50 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.
He has been making those plays against actual NBA rotational players.

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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2015, 03:44:21 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.
He has been making those plays against actual NBA rotational players.
Then he should have no trouble making an impact on the Red Claws

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2015, 03:56:12 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

I think you're underestimating the power of being one of Stevens' binkies.

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2015, 03:57:21 PM »

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We have a ton of depth and I get your logic, but RJ is going to at some point this season be a regular in the rotation.

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2015, 04:08:13 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

I think you're underestimating the power of being one of Stevens' binkies.
Rotations tighten up come regular season.   With our guard rotation including SMart, Bradley and Thomas... and our SF rotation including Crowder and Turner... not to mention Jerebko... I just don't expect any minutes will be available for Hunter this year.

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2015, 04:14:38 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

I think you're underestimating the power of being one of Stevens' binkies.
Rotations tighten up come regular season.   With our guard rotation including SMart, Bradley and Thomas... and our SF rotation including Crowder and Turner... not to mention Jerebko... I just don't expect any minutes will be available for Hunter this year.
How can you ony have a 3 player backcourt rotation? Looks like to me, that there is room for RJ in the rotation.

Last season's minutes for those guys -

IT4 - 26 minutes
Smart - 27 minutes
Bradley - 31 minutes

That leaves 12 minutes. Maybe someone gets their minutes bumped but it looks like RJ could easily get 5 to 15 minutes a game.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2015, 05:44:22 PM »

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

I think you're underestimating the power of being one of Stevens' binkies.
Rotations tighten up come regular season.   With our guard rotation including SMart, Bradley and Thomas... and our SF rotation including Crowder and Turner... not to mention Jerebko... I just don't expect any minutes will be available for Hunter this year.
How can you ony have a 3 player backcourt rotation? Looks like to me, that there is room for RJ in the rotation.

Last season's minutes for those guys -

IT4 - 26 minutes
Smart - 27 minutes
Bradley - 31 minutes

That leaves 12 minutes. Maybe someone gets their minutes bumped but it looks like RJ could easily get 5 to 15 minutes a game.
I think most would hope that Smart gets more than 27 minutes this year and IT gets more than 26 minutes this year.  Turner can eat into some of the guard minutes as well.   If spot minutes are available, they might go to Rozier.   I don't expect any of the rookies to get meaningful playing time this year, though.

If there's injuries or a trade, anything can happen.

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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

I think you're underestimating the power of being one of Stevens' binkies.

Bingo. A primary reason I made my admittedly bold prediction for RJ a week or so ago. Major contributing factor here.
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Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.
I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.
He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

I think you're underestimating the power of being one of Stevens' binkies.
Rotations tighten up come regular season.   With our guard rotation including SMart, Bradley and Thomas... and our SF rotation including Crowder and Turner... not to mention Jerebko... I just don't expect any minutes will be available for Hunter this year.
How can you ony have a 3 player backcourt rotation? Looks like to me, that there is room for RJ in the rotation.

Last season's minutes for those guys -

IT4 - 26 minutes
Smart - 27 minutes
Bradley - 31 minutes

That leaves 12 minutes. Maybe someone gets their minutes bumped but it looks like RJ could easily get 5 to 15 minutes a game.
I think most would hope that Smart gets more than 27 minutes this year and IT gets more than 26 minutes this year.  Turner can eat into some of the guard minutes as well.   If spot minutes are available, they might go to Rozier.   I don't expect any of the rookies to get meaningful playing time this year, though.

If there's injuries or a trade, anything can happen.
Also, remember last year that Stevens ran IT4, Smart and Bradley in the same line up at times. That frees up more time.