How can Danny possibly keep James Young in this roster?

[Global Celtic]

The guy just doesn't seem to have the mindset to succeed in the NBA. Look how every one of our three rookies showed us already that they belong. At the same time, James Young looks lost on the court. Every single play, he seems lost.
How could we possible keep such a fragile prospect and release a guy that once scored 32 points in an actual NBA game (Perry Jones)?

[Eddie20]

He's 20 years old. Everyone knew it would take time. Giving up on him this early into his career and have him develop into something would both be painful and riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.

[Lucky17]

I'm guessing it's because Young still is locked into a cost-controlled rookie contract for another two years, during which time some other GM (if it's not Ainge) thinks Young will finally "get it."

Put differently: James Young right now is where Perry Jones was two years ago.

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

I mean. I nonwhere your coming from but you really have to take into consideration

Youngs age
Team needs trades to open up PT for players
They were playing Olympia Milano (sorry if mispelled)
Rosier and hunter miight not be ya average rookies
Season which counts hasnt even started

NOW! I can deff agree at the rate we are currently at.. We might exceed the stage  where its even worth keeping a project like young around  if there are  options to add players who "really" help get us closer to win now mode.. The call cant exactly be made efficiently

[littleteapot]

Jones has limited potential given that he has been mostly a failed player in the nba for a few years. Also I'm not sure about the details of his injury, but I don't think the C's can assume that he will be healthy for most of the season, just because of how many injuries he's already had.

Young was drafted 1 year ago at the age of 19. He is likely to be a bust, but we aren't 90% sure he will be like with Jones. You don't want to cut a guy you drafted 1 year ago to keep a guy who might not be healthy and probably won't add any to your team if he was.

[Denis998]

The key in your post is that Perry once scored 32 points. Small sample size, if any at all. Its more of a statistical outlier. Perry hasn't really proved anything in the NBA, as with James. One thing about James is that he shot 44% from 3 in the D-League. Give this guy time to develop, there is no rush as we have multiple amount of guards.

[PhoSita]

He can keep young by cutting Perry Jones and / or trading Turner and / or Sully.

[LooseCannon]

He's 20 years old. Everyone knew it would take time. Giving up on him this early into his career and have him develop into something would both be painful and riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.

I, for one, thought that drafting him was a bad idea.

Not understanding the concept of a sunk cost and hanging to him longer than necessarily will riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.  He's like a smaller Perry Jones;  he has the talent to be a very good player, but he seems to lack the intelligence and desire to come close to reaching his potential.

[max215]

I'm not a fan of Young's, but he's still very young and possesses natural tools that many, many people in the NBA lack.

[littleteapot]

He's 20 years old. Everyone knew it would take time. Giving up on him this early into his career and have him develop into something would both be painful and riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.

I, for one, thought that drafting him was a bad idea.

Not understanding the concept of a sunk cost and hanging to him longer than necessarily will riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.  He's like a smaller Perry Jones;  he has the talent to be a very good player, but he seems to lack the intelligence and desire to come close to reaching his potential.

If you disagree with a draft pick, do you think the C's should jettison the player 1 year in for nothing?

[LooseCannon]

He's 20 years old. Everyone knew it would take time. Giving up on him this early into his career and have him develop into something would both be painful and riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.

I, for one, thought that drafting him was a bad idea.

Not understanding the concept of a sunk cost and hanging to him longer than necessarily will riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.  He's like a smaller Perry Jones;  he has the talent to be a very good player, but he seems to lack the intelligence and desire to come close to reaching his potential.

If you disagree with a draft pick, do you think the C's should jettison the player 1 year in for nothing?

It depends on what other uses I have for that roster spot.  If Jordan Mickey was an undrafted player on an unguaranteed contract and it came down to Young vs Mickey for the last roster spot, I would certainly consider getting rid of Young for nothing.  If we're talking about Young vs PJ3, I'd probably waive Perry Jones and eat his contract.

If it's inherently bad to cut bait on James Young after one year, then it was wrong to give up on Fab Melo so quickly.

[Lucky17]

He's 20 years old. Everyone knew it would take time. Giving up on him this early into his career and have him develop into something would both be painful and riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.

I, for one, thought that drafting him was a bad idea.

Not understanding the concept of a sunk cost and hanging to him longer than necessarily will riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.  He's like a smaller Perry Jones;  he has the talent to be a very good player, but he seems to lack the intelligence and desire to come close to reaching his potential.

If you disagree with a draft pick, do you think the C's should jettison the player 1 year in for nothing?

It depends on what other uses I have for that roster spot.  If Jordan Mickey was an undrafted player on an unguaranteed contract and it came down to Young vs Mickey for the last roster spot, I would certainly consider getting rid of Young for nothing.  If we're talking about Young vs PJ3, I'd probably waive Perry Jones and eat his contract.

If it's inherently bad to cut bait on James Young after one year, then it was wrong to give up on Fab Melo so quickly.

Who was the last 1st round pick to be outright cut and have his salary eaten by the team that drafted him?

I had no issue with Ainge trading Melo when he did, and I'd lose little sleep if he were to trade Young.

[littleteapot]

It depends on what other uses I have for that roster spot.  If Jordan Mickey was an undrafted player on an unguaranteed contract and it came down to Young vs Mickey for the last roster spot, I would certainly consider getting rid of Young for nothing.  If we're talking about Young vs PJ3, I'd probably waive Perry Jones and eat his contract.

If it's inherently bad to cut bait on James Young after one year, then it was wrong to give up on Fab Melo so quickly.

It's easy to say that it wasn't wrong to cut bait on Fab Melo now that we know he was a bust, but I think it was too early.

It either shows that they drafted him with no realistic plan for his development, or that they weren't willing to follow through on the plan after a crummy year. I'd say unless a player shows no capacity to improve, it's generally bad to just cut ties after 1 year.

[PhoSita]

He's 20 years old. Everyone knew it would take time. Giving up on him this early into his career and have him develop into something would both be painful and riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.

I, for one, thought that drafting him was a bad idea.

Not understanding the concept of a sunk cost and hanging to him longer than necessarily will riddle the forum with threads about the mistake.  He's like a smaller Perry Jones;  he has the talent to be a very good player, but he seems to lack the intelligence and desire to come close to reaching his potential.

The difference is that he's still younger than all three of the rookies we drafted this year that people are hyped about.

Sunk cost fallacy is a valid point, but you don't draft a guy you should reasonably know will be a multiyear project and then cut him after one season because he's not ready to crack the rotation on a team that's deep in proven role players.


I agree with you, by the way, on cutting Fab Melo, for the same reason -- though I think that decision made more sense because Fab was already pretty old for a rookie when they drafted him.  But why draft a raw project center who is on the older side for a prospect in the first place?  That's what made the Fab Melo pick so bad from the beginning.

[GreenWarrior]

the truth is, james young's ultimate value to the C's may be as a throw in in a trade. doesn't mean he won't be a good or decent player in the future. he's not a player you just throw away though. he falls under the Marshon brooks, Gerald green category - teams are always going to take a chance on those kind of players. he's a sweetener in a deal.

he's young, just like green when he was younger and fortunately for green he figured out he had to work to stay in the league.

I hope he doesn't keep getting sent down to the D-league because imo the more guys get sent down the more harm it does in the long run. everyone complains and says his D is horrible...well, he's not going to play better D(or learn to) in the D-league.