Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[Ilikesports17]

Pelicans with a win brings them 4.5 games ahead of Brooklyn. Hopefully we will be able to completely cross them off the list of nets threats in the coming weeks.

Obviously the big threats are Minnesota and Phoenix. Phoenix got demolished by SA tonight.

[PhoSita]

Yup.  Nets look to be assured of finishing with a bottom 4 record.  That Jack injury was crucial.

[Kane3387]

Yup.  Nets look to be assured of finishing with a bottom 4 record.  That Jack injury was crucial.

I definitely see five. Phoenix and Minnesota Coukd keep losing and allow the nets to jump them. That would put Brooklyn ahead of Philly La Minny and Phoenix.

At worse I think that means the pick has the fifth best odds in the draft.

[Bucketgetter]

Anthony Davis not getting an All-Star fan vote nod is big news, because due to the Derrick Rose Rule, he stands to make an extra $23 million dollars if he hits certain milestones.  Those being a fan voted All-Star start, two All-NBA teams or MVP.  With the Pelicans sitting at 14-27 (which is only 3 games up on the Nets), he will have to start winning now or personally miss out on a ton of cash.

Since forwards and centers are combined for 3 front court spots now, it means that he has to be a top 9 forward or center in the league.  I'd say that it looks like this right now:

Clear Top 6: LeBron, Kawhi, Draymond Green, Paul George, Kevin Durrant, Andre Drummond.

So that's 1st and 2nd team with no chance for the Brow to break in.

He has to beat out one of these guys then:

7.) Pau Gasol
8.) LaMarcus Aldridge
9.) DeMarucs Cousins

Plus, there is Milsap, Love, Whiteside, Blake, Tim Duncan, Zaza, Dirk, Greek Freak, Porzingis, KAT, Melo and Bosh that are all going to seriously merit a spot.

I think that the Pelicans need to go at least .500 for the rest of the season or he's not making it. They're currently beating the Pistons tonight, I'd say they're looking like they'll pull away.  The Lakers and Sixers might even catch the Nets at this pace, but the Wolves and Suns are both pretty bad.  At least I think we can discount the Pelicans as of now, though.

None of this has to do with anything about the nets. In fact, this would just show that the Pelicans would want to tank more because in addition to getting a high pick, they also won't have to pay AD as much. Players don't tank for a pick. He's going to go 100% no matter what.

[Ilikesports17]

Anthony Davis not getting an All-Star fan vote nod is big news, because due to the Derrick Rose Rule, he stands to make an extra $23 million dollars if he hits certain milestones.  Those being a fan voted All-Star start, two All-NBA teams or MVP.  With the Pelicans sitting at 14-27 (which is only 3 games up on the Nets), he will have to start winning now or personally miss out on a ton of cash.

Since forwards and centers are combined for 3 front court spots now, it means that he has to be a top 9 forward or center in the league.  I'd say that it looks like this right now:

Clear Top 6: LeBron, Kawhi, Draymond Green, Paul George, Kevin Durrant, Andre Drummond.

So that's 1st and 2nd team with no chance for the Brow to break in.

He has to beat out one of these guys then:

7.) Pau Gasol
8.) LaMarcus Aldridge
9.) DeMarucs Cousins

Plus, there is Milsap, Love, Whiteside, Blake, Tim Duncan, Zaza, Dirk, Greek Freak, Porzingis, KAT, Melo and Bosh that are all going to seriously merit a spot.

I think that the Pelicans need to go at least .500 for the rest of the season or he's not making it. They're currently beating the Pistons tonight, I'd say they're looking like they'll pull away.  The Lakers and Sixers might even catch the Nets at this pace, but the Wolves and Suns are both pretty bad.  At least I think we can discount the Pelicans as of now, though.

None of this has to do with anything about the nets. In fact, this would just show that the Pelicans would want to tank more because in addition to getting a high pick, they also won't have to pay AD as much. Players don't tank for a pick. He's going to go 100% no matter what.

I was also confused by this. Management know winning and AD being a stud is more expensive and hurts their pick.

[trickybilly]

Anthony Davis not getting an All-Star fan vote nod is big news, because due to the Derrick Rose Rule, he stands to make an extra $23 million dollars if he hits certain milestones.  Those being a fan voted All-Star start, two All-NBA teams or MVP.  With the Pelicans sitting at 14-27 (which is only 3 games up on the Nets), he will have to start winning now or personally miss out on a ton of cash.

Since forwards and centers are combined for 3 front court spots now, it means that he has to be a top 9 forward or center in the league.  I'd say that it looks like this right now:

Clear Top 6: LeBron, Kawhi, Draymond Green, Paul George, Kevin Durrant, Andre Drummond.

So that's 1st and 2nd team with no chance for the Brow to break in.

He has to beat out one of these guys then:

7.) Pau Gasol
8.) LaMarcus Aldridge
9.) DeMarucs Cousins

Plus, there is Milsap, Love, Whiteside, Blake, Tim Duncan, Zaza, Dirk, Greek Freak, Porzingis, KAT, Melo and Bosh that are all going to seriously merit a spot.

I think that the Pelicans need to go at least .500 for the rest of the season or he's not making it. They're currently beating the Pistons tonight, I'd say they're looking like they'll pull away.  The Lakers and Sixers might even catch the Nets at this pace, but the Wolves and Suns are both pretty bad.  At least I think we can discount the Pelicans as of now, though.

None of this has to do with anything about the nets. In fact, this would just show that the Pelicans would want to tank more because in addition to getting a high pick, they also won't have to pay AD as much. Players don't tank for a pick. He's going to go 100% no matter what.

I was also confused by this. Management know winning and AD being a stud is more expensive and hurts their pick.

Hey hey hey, Anthony Davis not qualifying for the supermax is too far removed from this thread topic. Let's concentrate on Utah tomorrow. Huge game for us, a real litmus test.

The rapidly improving Alec Burks' absence is a real blow, but Rudy is looking good again, and if we play hard and fast, shoot well from three, this is a pick six. Also continue sous-vide on Dallas. 

[PhoSita]

Yup.  Nets look to be assured of finishing with a bottom 4 record.  That Jack injury was crucial.

I definitely see five. Phoenix and Minnesota Coukd keep losing and allow the nets to jump them. That would put Brooklyn ahead of Philly La Minny and Phoenix.

At worse I think that means the pick has the fifth best odds in the draft.

You're right, I wasn't counting the Nets in that.  Bottom 5 is solid.  Can't complain about that.  Worst case scenario is 8th pick, but that's extremely unlikely.

I dunno if there will be a guy with superstar potential outside the top 2, but pretty much every year there's somebody who ends up having All-Star potential available in that range, so we'll see.

At this point I'd be thrilled if that pick simply yields a two-way big man who can be a long-term solution at one of the starting frontcourt spots.

[mef730]

Anthony Davis not getting an All-Star fan vote nod is big news, because due to the Derrick Rose Rule, he stands to make an extra $23 million dollars if he hits certain milestones.  Those being a fan voted All-Star start, two All-NBA teams or MVP.  With the Pelicans sitting at 14-27 (which is only 3 games up on the Nets), he will have to start winning now or personally miss out on a ton of cash.

Since forwards and centers are combined for 3 front court spots now, it means that he has to be a top 9 forward or center in the league.  I'd say that it looks like this right now:

Clear Top 6: LeBron, Kawhi, Draymond Green, Paul George, Kevin Durrant, Andre Drummond.

So that's 1st and 2nd team with no chance for the Brow to break in.

He has to beat out one of these guys then:

7.) Pau Gasol
8.) LaMarcus Aldridge
9.) DeMarucs Cousins

Plus, there is Milsap, Love, Whiteside, Blake, Tim Duncan, Zaza, Dirk, Greek Freak, Porzingis, KAT, Melo and Bosh that are all going to seriously merit a spot.

I think that the Pelicans need to go at least .500 for the rest of the season or he's not making it. They're currently beating the Pistons tonight, I'd say they're looking like they'll pull away.  The Lakers and Sixers might even catch the Nets at this pace, but the Wolves and Suns are both pretty bad.  At least I think we can discount the Pelicans as of now, though.

None of this has to do with anything about the nets. In fact, this would just show that the Pelicans would want to tank more because in addition to getting a high pick, they also won't have to pay AD as much. Players don't tank for a pick. He's going to go 100% no matter what.

I was also confused by this. Management know winning and AD being a stud is more expensive and hurts their pick.

Hey hey hey, Anthony Davis not qualifying for the supermax is too far removed from this thread topic. Let's concentrate on Utah tomorrow. Huge game for us, a real litmus test.

The rapidly improving Alec Burks' absence is a real blow, but Rudy is looking good again, and if we play hard and fast, shoot well from three, this is a pick six. Also continue sous-vide on Dallas.

I think New Orleans is out of the danger zone. Not that they're gonna be good, but they'll be better than Brooklyn.

Phoenix is awful. They could easily pass BKN on the downside, but there's also the chance that LAL pass them on the upside.

Mike

[hpantazo]

Anthony Davis not getting an All-Star fan vote nod is big news, because due to the Derrick Rose Rule, he stands to make an extra $23 million dollars if he hits certain milestones.  Those being a fan voted All-Star start, two All-NBA teams or MVP.  With the Pelicans sitting at 14-27 (which is only 3 games up on the Nets), he will have to start winning now or personally miss out on a ton of cash.

Since forwards and centers are combined for 3 front court spots now, it means that he has to be a top 9 forward or center in the league.  I'd say that it looks like this right now:

Clear Top 6: LeBron, Kawhi, Draymond Green, Paul George, Kevin Durrant, Andre Drummond.

So that's 1st and 2nd team with no chance for the Brow to break in.

He has to beat out one of these guys then:

7.) Pau Gasol
8.) LaMarcus Aldridge
9.) DeMarucs Cousins

Plus, there is Milsap, Love, Whiteside, Blake, Tim Duncan, Zaza, Dirk, Greek Freak, Porzingis, KAT, Melo and Bosh that are all going to seriously merit a spot.

I think that the Pelicans need to go at least .500 for the rest of the season or he's not making it. They're currently beating the Pistons tonight, I'd say they're looking like they'll pull away.  The Lakers and Sixers might even catch the Nets at this pace, but the Wolves and Suns are both pretty bad.  At least I think we can discount the Pelicans as of now, though.

None of this has to do with anything about the nets. In fact, this would just show that the Pelicans would want to tank more because in addition to getting a high pick, they also won't have to pay AD as much. Players don't tank for a pick. He's going to go 100% no matter what.

I was also confused by this. Management know winning and AD being a stud is more expensive and hurts their pick.

Hey hey hey, Anthony Davis not qualifying for the supermax is too far removed from this thread topic. Let's concentrate on Utah tomorrow. Huge game for us, a real litmus test.

The rapidly improving Alec Burks' absence is a real blow, but Rudy is looking good again, and if we play hard and fast, shoot well from three, this is a pick six. Also continue sous-vide on Dallas.

I think New Orleans is out of the danger zone. Not that they're gonna be good, but they'll be better than Brooklyn.

Phoenix is awful. They could easily pass BKN on the downside, but there's also the chance that LAL pass them on the upside.

Mike

I think LA and even the Sixers (yes, honestly) have a chance at ending up with more wins than Brooklyn. The Sixers are playing well since getting Ish Smith and changing front office strategies. Even the games they lost they were in until the last minute or so. The Suns look primed for a total collapse however.

[fairweatherfan]

I think it's pretty likely that the bottom 5 will be the Sixers, Lakers, Nets, Suns, and Wolves in some order.  Outside of major injuries, the only team with the potential to crack that group in my opinion is Denver.

Within that group, the only things I'm confident on is that the Sixers will be close to the bottom of that bottom 5 and the Wolves close to the top (and the most likely to break out of the group).  It's conceivable Brooklyn could wind up worst or 5th worst, but more likely between 2-4 and very likely not any better than bottom 5.  Which is pretty good for us, all things considered.

[trickybilly]

Anthony Davis not getting an All-Star fan vote nod is big news, because due to the Derrick Rose Rule, he stands to make an extra $23 million dollars if he hits certain milestones.  Those being a fan voted All-Star start, two All-NBA teams or MVP.  With the Pelicans sitting at 14-27 (which is only 3 games up on the Nets), he will have to start winning now or personally miss out on a ton of cash.

Since forwards and centers are combined for 3 front court spots now, it means that he has to be a top 9 forward or center in the league.  I'd say that it looks like this right now:

Clear Top 6: LeBron, Kawhi, Draymond Green, Paul George, Kevin Durrant, Andre Drummond.

So that's 1st and 2nd team with no chance for the Brow to break in.

He has to beat out one of these guys then:

7.) Pau Gasol
8.) LaMarcus Aldridge
9.) DeMarucs Cousins

Plus, there is Milsap, Love, Whiteside, Blake, Tim Duncan, Zaza, Dirk, Greek Freak, Porzingis, KAT, Melo and Bosh that are all going to seriously merit a spot.

I think that the Pelicans need to go at least .500 for the rest of the season or he's not making it. They're currently beating the Pistons tonight, I'd say they're looking like they'll pull away.  The Lakers and Sixers might even catch the Nets at this pace, but the Wolves and Suns are both pretty bad.  At least I think we can discount the Pelicans as of now, though.

None of this has to do with anything about the nets. In fact, this would just show that the Pelicans would want to tank more because in addition to getting a high pick, they also won't have to pay AD as much. Players don't tank for a pick. He's going to go 100% no matter what.

I was also confused by this. Management know winning and AD being a stud is more expensive and hurts their pick.

Hey hey hey, Anthony Davis not qualifying for the supermax is too far removed from this thread topic. Let's concentrate on Utah tomorrow. Huge game for us, a real litmus test.

The rapidly improving Alec Burks' absence is a real blow, but Rudy is looking good again, and if we play hard and fast, shoot well from three, this is a pick six. Also continue sous-vide on Dallas.

I think New Orleans is out of the danger zone. Not that they're gonna be good, but they'll be better than Brooklyn.

Phoenix is awful. They could easily pass BKN on the downside, but there's also the chance that LAL pass them on the upside.

Mike

Yeah, Denver and maybe Utah are the only real teams to worry about at the deadline. Milwaukee have too much talent to get a super high pick... even if they trade away jabari and antetekounmpo for durant.

[slamtheking]

I think it's pretty likely that the bottom 5 will be the Sixers, Lakers, Nets, Suns, and Wolves in some order.  Outside of major injuries, the only team with the potential to crack that group in my opinion is Denver.

Within that group, the only things I'm confident on is that the Sixers will be close to the bottom of that bottom 5 and the Wolves close to the top (and the most likely to break out of the group).  It's conceivable Brooklyn could wind up worst or 5th worst, but more likely between 2-4 and very likely not any better than bottom 5.  Which is pretty good for us, all things considered.

I might swap Denver for Minny but other than that, I agree for the most part.  I think LA will tank bad enough to keep the second worst record to hedge against getting bumped by a team in the lottery out of the top 3.  I think the key for those teams now going downhill that have a better record than Brooklyn -- they can't catch Brooklyn if Brooklyn can't win.  Brooklyn's in the tougher conference this year so I think it's much more likely they accumulate more losses than Phx, Denver and Minny for the rest of the year.  I'd say LA too but as I mentioned, I see them playing bad enough to ensure second worse.

[max215]

I think it's pretty likely that the bottom 5 will be the Sixers, Lakers, Nets, Suns, and Wolves in some order.  Outside of major injuries, the only team with the potential to crack that group in my opinion is Denver.

Within that group, the only things I'm confident on is that the Sixers will be close to the bottom of that bottom 5 and the Wolves close to the top (and the most likely to break out of the group).  It's conceivable Brooklyn could wind up worst or 5th worst, but more likely between 2-4 and very likely not any better than bottom 5.  Which is pretty good for us, all things considered.

I'm not too worried about Denver. They have more talent than the other bottom feeders, aren't far out of the playoffs, and have legitimately been playing pretty well recently. They struggle to close games, but they're more of a 30-32 win team than a 20-25 win team.

[csfansince60s]

Go Utah Celtics!!!

Up 8 at half.

[Cman]

Go Utah Celtics!!!

Up 8 at half.

Go Utah!!