Poll: Did drafting Young and his bad work ethic effect are draft this year.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Poor work ethic, such a ridiculous over statement with little to no merit of being uttered right now.

[chambers]

I think he's got some 'passion' issues, but it's still too early to completely write him off...He's only played in 31 games @ 10.7 minutes a game.

Brad and Danny have both commented that he's a hard worker-but you never know how much of that is trade speak to build his value but with 3 years left on his rookie deal and just turned 20 years old there's plenty of time to develop him.

One thing that is great about having Smart, Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Crowder, Bradley and these young hungry guys is that James has no option but to work hard and his work ethic will likely improve in such an environment.

[hwangjini_1]

We actually have zero evidence that Young has a poor work ethic.

Young was drafted as a multi-year project.  He was the youngest player in his draft class and only played one year for a college that is notorious for getting its players drafted but not really teaching them the game.

Nobody should be surprised at all, or view Young as a bad pick, just because he did not crack the rotation last year and still looks like he needs time to develop.  He's younger than all of the players we drafted this year.

good points. indeed, the only quotes i have seen concerning young and his willingness to learn and work have been positive. people have indicated that he does work hard.

not everyone can have the manical - dare i say near psychotic - motor of KG and smart. but that does not mark them as lazy.

young is young. how many times do we need to come back to the point that patience is needed in evaluating young as an nba player?

patience, patience, patience...let's not all rush to get egg on our collective faces as many posters did during bradley's first year in the nba. we need to evaluate young based upon the improvements he makes this year. so let's wait and see.

 Ok hwang, you twisted my arm, I'll give him half of another season, but if he doesn't start diving for balls and breaking his fingers on the floor he's fired.

which half - first or second? 

oh, and a tp for your new found patience.

[Boris Badenov]

"Effect are"...yet another phrase for me to run through the Millenial-to-English Translator.

[BornReady]

Why do people keep bringing up his work ethic
Where is the proof of this
It's not like he came to training camp overweight or hasn't practiced in the offseason

[Celtics4ever]

We had clear evidence of a player without work ethic here and it was not Young.   Young is young, I do not think he understands spacing and tries to be too fancy when he tosses up a shot.   He needs to trust his form and just shoot it.

I see his problems being more related to basketball IQ than work ethic.   He is a decent athlete, just does know where to be on defense or offense.  If you saw summer league, you would know that he added 15 lbs of muscle this off season, on his own to get stronger.

[OhioGreen]

Let's get to the crux of the problem with JY.  KGLL summed it up by basically saying he's a shooter that can't shoot!  Everytime I watch him shoot I think it's going in, but it rarely does!  Nothing else he does on the court impresses me, or makes me itchin' to get him back into a game after he's taken out!
Now if he was shooting like he does in the DL, great!  I don't think we would have this post if he was knockin' down 40%+ on his threes!  If he was doing that and giving us that "instant offense" off the bench, I wouldn't care that he has NO right hand, no BBIQ, and plays poor D. Currently, though, he's not, and that's the problem!
Whether it's nerves, form, or whatever, he seems to have a short window to get those shots to start falling with regularity!  Wasting a roster spot, otherwise!

[SHAQATTACK]

Hopefully having guys like Amir , AB and Smart and Jay will rub off on him over the long haul.

[slamtheking]

I don't think so.

I think Danny drafted who he liked regardless of Young

[Nemam Nabytek]

I think Young is going to have a good career in the NBA.  Year two will be the transition year.  He'll have adapted to the routine of practice and travel, he'll be familiar with the expectations--some of which he's already addressed--and he'll play with greater composure and confidence.  Sheer talent can't be taught; it's in his genes. 

James has heard the stories of all those players with "potential."  The Gerald Greens, The Austin Rivers.  He got the wake up call from Gerald Wallace.  He's seen how Jared Sullinger responded to his own challenge.  #13 will put on his hard hat this September and do what all supreme athletes do:  compete. 

I remember Avery's rookie season.  His offense was embarrassing.  There are so many naysayers on this blog.  I do get insights from many of the posts, but many of them are nothing but subjective rants.

I love this collection of young, hungry, and athletic basketball players.  I love our depth.  I love our leaders--Crowder, Smart, Johnson.  We are this year's Atlanta Hawks.  Enjoy it.     

[Alleyoopster]

I absolutely love James Young.  He is a great shooter.  He's tough, strong, lean and mean.  He da' man!  Watching him chasing down opponents and making steals from behind or blocking their shots is a dream come true. 

Teams doubling up on him and he still manages to draw fouls or hit off balance shots with remarkable consistency.   Team play is the name of his game.  Finding players with his deft passes reminds me of LB himself.  Everyone loves him..his coaches, his teammates, fans, and just everyone.  Work ethic... you talk work... it's spelled James Young.  J.A.M.E.S.  Y.O.U.N.G.

Of course, this is the James Young that James Young sees in his mind.  And, the same James Young many of us saw in ourselves in our playing days.  In reality most of us were not that good in comparison to real talent.  Even knowing this, we continue to bash Young as if he was a monster like Aaron Hernandez.  When will it stop? 

Why are there so many post putting this player down?  Are we a group of sadists?  What is the purpose of these postings?   I'll be honest I haven't been all that complimentary about him either.  Still, I feel the moderators of this board should limit or condense future Young bashing posts.

 

[Celtics4ever]

He's seen how Jared Sullinger responded to his own challenge.  #13 will put on his hard hat this September and do what all supreme athletes do:  compete. 

This is a load of bullcrap, Young worked out and got in stronger before Sully did this summer.  He has been shown a real poor example by Sullinger, who chose to get in shape only for his contract year or until his health became a factor.   Let's not rewrite history here.  Now if Sully turns it around this year, then he might be an example but up to now he has not been.

[clover]

Rozier first pick. Tough. Defensive beast. Strong. Hard nosed. Two years experience.

 Hunter three years experience. High BBIQ. Coaches son. Great passer and ball handler.

 Mickey Defensive first mentality. Athletic. Two
 years experience.

 Young. One year experience. Stupid. Slow. Lazy. Didn't take direction or instruction well. Excuse me but I can't stand the guy. I hope we dump him for Perry Jones, and I don't like Jones that much lol.

I'd be a little gentler in my description of Young, but yes--IMO they seem to have decided on harder working, smarter, older guys.

Not a bad idea unless a hard-working and smart younger guy is good enough to be picked ahead of them.

[clover]

Let's get to the crux of the problem with JY.  KGLL summed it up by basically saying he's a shooter that can't shoot!  Everytime I watch him shoot I think it's going in, but it rarely does!  Nothing else he does on the court impresses me, or makes me itchin' to get him back into a game after he's taken out!
Now if he was shooting like he does in the DL, great!  I don't think we would have this post if he was knockin' down 40%+ on his threes!  If he was doing that and giving us that "instant offense" off the bench, I wouldn't care that he has NO right hand, no BBIQ, and plays poor D. Currently, though, he's not, and that's the problem!
Whether it's nerves, form, or whatever, he seems to have a short window to get those shots to start falling with regularity!  Wasting a roster spot, otherwise!

I don't see that as his problem at all! He was a teenager playing last year. Sure, his 3 didn't go down a lot under the pressure of the NBA. But we saw how smooth it was in the d-league, where there's less pressure.

And even as a teenager at the NBA level, Young shot a decent .528 from the 2--only KO and TZ shot that better on the team. I worry about how long it'll take him to develop decent defense, but not about his shooting.

[clover]

Why do people keep bringing up his work ethic
Where is the proof of this
It's not like he came to training camp overweight or hasn't practiced in the offseason

When you've got multiple teammates speaking out publicly about a rookie's work ethic, as well as coaches intimating that it's an issue, it's probably an issue. Even this summer, the coaches wouldn't go so far as to say he has developed a great one--only that it is coming along, improved, adequate, etc.