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Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2015, 11:10:22 PM »

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So young turner jones and jerebko are favourites to go...
Turner will be traded at some point
Young is too young to dump
Jones too long to dump
The swed..?

Both jerebko and turner will leave... i do not hink that turner can be traded right away., so the swed will leave first..
Jones is not too long to dump.

Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2015, 12:25:17 AM »

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No way JJ goes. If there are no trades (I'm looking at you, Sully!), Jones will be the one cut. As he should be.

Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2015, 01:33:12 AM »

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The word going around was that Ainge had turner play in the Africa exhibition game to try and up his value in the trade market so he would unload him before the season started.

Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2015, 09:48:19 AM »

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 I agree Turner must go, J.J. could be traded when ever eligible he has a trade friendly contract, I mean Ainge set up his contract on the intent of being very tradable. Had we just signed him for 1 year and not have a team option on the second year he would have a no trade clause.

 I'll put it this way, nothing Ainge does is for no reason. Guy's will be traded, the only guy I see being waived/cut is Perry Jones and that is if trades aren't done to condense the roster down to 15 men or less, but even if that get's accomplished he actually has to prove that he's a player in this league, anyone who thinks he's a player like that is crazy.

Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2015, 10:25:48 AM »

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i've been a huge AB fan all along and still am.  And once he shows his value again with some killer defense and dang good shooting he'll bring back more in a trade than Turner.  Turner can still get better and is way more versatile and bigger.  Can get his own offense at the end of the game.  Can come off the bench.  His weaknesses will be mitigated once he's coming off the bench as a ball handler/scorer.  Rozier (who will be better than Bradley eventually) and Smart (who we should definitely keep imo) make Bradley the one to trade, not Turner.

If Smart goes in a trade for a star then obviously we can keep AB.

As things are keep Jonas, he's versatile with very good defense. 
Trade AB and some other big/swing.


Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2015, 10:49:26 AM »

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Jerebko put up 4 3PA per 36 at  just over 40%. His career is 2.8 3PA per 36 at .344.

Not Steph Curry numbers but by default he's on of our best (and only) perimeter threats with Smart, Thomas, AB, Crowder, and Sully/KO all shooting 35% or lower on more attempts. We added Rozier so Turner is my vote.
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Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2015, 12:20:49 PM »

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This is really a question for after training camp, not now. Can Smart handle PG duties adequately enough that we don't need Turner helping him out on the first unit? Can PJIII show he can contribute this year? 

If the answer to both of those questions ends up being yes, I'd consider giving away Turner for a second rounder or outright cutting him (though obviously a better return would be desirable). But it's way too early to tell that now. For all we know, someone gets hurt, PJIII sucks, or a larger trade happens that make this entire conversation irrelevant.

Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2015, 01:17:28 PM »

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What are you talking about? Jerebko can't be traded for at least a few months. Turner can be traded anytime.

And some of you guys are crazy. I would bet my last dollar that Young isn't going anywhere unless it's in a trade for something pretty decent or a package for something great. Why would anyone think that? Because he didn't do much his rookie year on a team with like 10 legit rotation players. If he was drafted by Philly, you'd all be trying to dream up trades for him.

He has all the tools needed to be a very good scoring wing in this league. His biggest questions have always been motor, drive and defensive skills. By all accounts he's really turned the corner on his work ethic and desire to get better, and he showed an oft-overlooked improvement on D in SL. There's literally no way Ainge just dumps him to keep Evan friggen Turner or PJ3.
This. The Celtics didn't just resign Jerebko in the offseason to dump him before camp and since he can't be traded for a couple of months, his spot on the roster on opening night is about as solid as anyone's.

With Young, the Celtics made an investment in him a year ago that was always suppose to be long term. Might he be traded in a package for a blue-chipper? Yeah. But I think it's way mor likely that he stays on and this is the year Brad tries to really integrate him into the system in some way.
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Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2015, 03:01:19 PM »

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I don't get the fascination with dumping Turner.  He has the best contract on the team and is certainly at worst a rotation player.  I mean I get it if Boston goes all in on tanking, but Turner is probably the last player you trade if you are trying to win (just given his salary, ability, etc.).
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Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2015, 03:08:03 PM »

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If the C's are going to make a move it will be dealing a bigman. Short of that the default option has always been cut Perry Jones.
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Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2015, 03:34:01 PM »

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I don't get the fascination with dumping Turner.  He has the best contract on the team and is certainly at worst a rotation player.  I mean I get it if Boston goes all in on tanking, but Turner is probably the last player you trade if you are trying to win (just given his salary, ability, etc.).

Generally speaking, I agree with this sentiment.  Turner's better than most people give him credit for. 

BUT, I think that this value is probably at an all time high now.  We'll probably have less of a need for his ball handling this year, which may indeed hurt his value as he's relegated to playing off the ball. 

Now he's still not a bad option to have around, but if Perry Jones III really proved that he had talent worth keeping around and Danny couldn't find a way to swing a 2 for 1 that was advantageous for the team, I wouldn't be opposed to either cutting Turner or dumping him for a crappy second rounder.  I don't really think he has a long term future with this team and I think his value will only decline as time goes on. 

But if PJIII sucks and/or Danny can pull a 2 for 1 that helps the team, you're absolutely right, Turner should be kept around and utilized. 

Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2015, 04:21:12 PM »

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Turner is probably the last player you trade if you are trying to win (just given his salary, ability, etc.).

Because he's unlikely to net an average player in return, which would make our team better, I agree entirely.  ;D
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Re: Turner or the swed must go
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2015, 06:29:42 PM »

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Turner is probably the last player you trade if you are trying to win (just given his salary, ability, etc.).

Because he's unlikely to net an average player in return, which would make our team better, I agree entirely.  ;D

I think of Turner as a current Marquis Daniels. A good all around player, but not great. Good to have because they can fill so many holes.

As the top of the roster develops, it should be easier to tell what complements would be best.   Turner is a perfect player for a team in transition.

Keep versatile Turner, trade specialist Bradley.

Jerebko also a very versatile player. Good to have on the roster.

It's going to be a tough camp for sure to get to 10.

The situation just begs for a trade.

Which teams lack depth?  We could do 3 for 1 deals!
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