Olynyk 34pts. 13reb. 2 ass. in loss at buzzer to Venezuela.

[DarkAzcura]

Very confident and aggressive within the team structure, I even saw an actual jump shot in his game. Wouldn't it be nice to get this KO consistently this year.

So has every shot he's taken the last two years been fake jump shots?

[krumeto]

The whole game, if anybody has the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGIi6D2BZ3s

[LarBrd33]

Olynyk has been playing against vastly inferior competition and should have been dominating in this tournament from the start. That he finally had a dominating game against the unbelievably bad front line of Venezuela means exactly squat about how he will play next year. Its the equivalent of a top 2 pick in the NBA Draft having a good summer league game after playing bad to okay for a bunch of summer league games before that.

How about Wiggins? 

Wiggins won Rookie of the Year and has been hailed as the next big star, yet from what I've seen Olynyk has easily outplayed him in this tournament.

Did he?  That's not what I have read.  I read that Wiggins was one of the best players in the entire tournament.  I read Wiggins made the all-tournament team.  BTW, Canada had more NBA talent on their team than any team participating.

Wiggins averaged 15 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, with 49% shooting (52% from three) in 25.5mpg.   Olynyk was good as well... 11.9 ppg, 7.5 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 21.6mpg

I don't get the point in comparing them.  Olynyk is 4 years older than Wiggins.  Kelly has 3 years of College ball and 2 years of NBA basketball under his belt.   Wiggins is coming off a rookie season after a single season of College basketball and he's already clearly vastly superior to Kelly Olynyk.  Wiggins projects as an all-star talent.  Olynyk might not project as a long-term starter.   I like Kelly though.  Good to see him playing well.   

Kelly's skillset makes sense in that style of basketball.   For those that care... Looks like Nik Stauskas (on the same team as Wiggins/Olynyk) played well too.  12.3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists in 23.1mpg with 54% shooting, 50% from three and 100% from the line.   Isn't it known that Euro ball favors shooters?  Stauskas was probably more impressive than Olynyk in that tourney.  FWIW, part of the reason they lost to Venezuela (the losing effort Kelly played well in) was due to Stauskas dealing with food poisoning:

Stauskas finished the event on the sidelines after a bout with food poisoning. He was hospitalized before the semifinals and scored just 2 points and played 15 minutes in the devastating loss to Venezuela and sat out the bronze medal game

It also sounds like Anthony Bennett (also on team Canada) was impressive for most of the tournament. 

[krumeto]

Olynyk has been playing against vastly inferior competition and should have been dominating in this tournament from the start. That he finally had a dominating game against the unbelievably bad front line of Venezuela means exactly squat about how he will play next year. Its the equivalent of a top 2 pick in the NBA Draft having a good summer league game after playing bad to okay for a bunch of summer league games before that.

How about Wiggins? 

Wiggins won Rookie of the Year and has been hailed as the next big star, yet from what I've seen Olynyk has easily outplayed him in this tournament.

Did he?  That's not what I have read.  I read that Wiggins was one of the best players in the entire tournament.  I read Wiggins made the all-tournament team.  BTW, Canada had more NBA talent on their team than any team participating.

Wiggins averaged 15 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, with 49% shooting (52% from three) in 25.5mpg.   Olynyk was good as well... 11.9 ppg, 7.5 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 21.6mpg

I don't get the point in comparing them.  Olynyk is 4 years older than Wiggins.  Kelly has 3 years of College ball and 2 years of NBA basketball under his belt.   Wiggins is coming off a rookie season after a single season of College basketball and he's already clearly vastly superior to Kelly Olynyk.  Wiggins projects as an all-star talent.  Olynyk might not project as a long-term starter.   I like Kelly though.  Good to see him playing well.   

Kelly's skillset makes sense in that style of basketball.   For those that care... Looks like Nik Stauskas (on the same team as Wiggins/Olynyk) played well too.  12.3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists in 23.1mpg with 54% shooting and 50% from three.   Isn't it known that Euro ball favors shooters?

And yet in the most important game, Wiggins played very poorly. 9 PTS on 11 shots, no FTs, no steals, 2 rebounds, 2 assists vs. 4 TOs.

[LarBrd33]

Olynyk has been playing against vastly inferior competition and should have been dominating in this tournament from the start. That he finally had a dominating game against the unbelievably bad front line of Venezuela means exactly squat about how he will play next year. Its the equivalent of a top 2 pick in the NBA Draft having a good summer league game after playing bad to okay for a bunch of summer league games before that.

How about Wiggins? 

Wiggins won Rookie of the Year and has been hailed as the next big star, yet from what I've seen Olynyk has easily outplayed him in this tournament.

Did he?  That's not what I have read.  I read that Wiggins was one of the best players in the entire tournament.  I read Wiggins made the all-tournament team.  BTW, Canada had more NBA talent on their team than any team participating.

Wiggins averaged 15 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, with 49% shooting (52% from three) in 25.5mpg.   Olynyk was good as well... 11.9 ppg, 7.5 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 21.6mpg

I don't get the point in comparing them.  Olynyk is 4 years older than Wiggins.  Kelly has 3 years of College ball and 2 years of NBA basketball under his belt.   Wiggins is coming off a rookie season after a single season of College basketball and he's already clearly vastly superior to Kelly Olynyk.  Wiggins projects as an all-star talent.  Olynyk might not project as a long-term starter.   I like Kelly though.  Good to see him playing well.   

Kelly's skillset makes sense in that style of basketball.   For those that care... Looks like Nik Stauskas (on the same team as Wiggins/Olynyk) played well too.  12.3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists in 23.1mpg with 54% shooting and 50% from three.   Isn't it known that Euro ball favors shooters?

And yet in the most important game, Wiggins played very poorly. 9 PTS on 11 shots, no FTs, no steals, 2 rebounds, 2 assists vs. 4 TOs.

Sure.  He's 20 years old.  Kid's going to be special.

[krumeto]

Olynyk has been playing against vastly inferior competition and should have been dominating in this tournament from the start. That he finally had a dominating game against the unbelievably bad front line of Venezuela means exactly squat about how he will play next year. Its the equivalent of a top 2 pick in the NBA Draft having a good summer league game after playing bad to okay for a bunch of summer league games before that.

How about Wiggins? 

Wiggins won Rookie of the Year and has been hailed as the next big star, yet from what I've seen Olynyk has easily outplayed him in this tournament.

Did he?  That's not what I have read.  I read that Wiggins was one of the best players in the entire tournament.  I read Wiggins made the all-tournament team.  BTW, Canada had more NBA talent on their team than any team participating.

Wiggins averaged 15 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, with 49% shooting (52% from three) in 25.5mpg.   Olynyk was good as well... 11.9 ppg, 7.5 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 21.6mpg

I don't get the point in comparing them.  Olynyk is 4 years older than Wiggins.  Kelly has 3 years of College ball and 2 years of NBA basketball under his belt.   Wiggins is coming off a rookie season after a single season of College basketball and he's already clearly vastly superior to Kelly Olynyk.  Wiggins projects as an all-star talent.  Olynyk might not project as a long-term starter.   I like Kelly though.  Good to see him playing well.   

Kelly's skillset makes sense in that style of basketball.   For those that care... Looks like Nik Stauskas (on the same team as Wiggins/Olynyk) played well too.  12.3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists in 23.1mpg with 54% shooting and 50% from three.   Isn't it known that Euro ball favors shooters?

And yet in the most important game, Wiggins played very poorly. 9 PTS on 11 shots, no FTs, no steals, 2 rebounds, 2 assists vs. 4 TOs.

Sure.  He's 20 years old.  Kid's going to be special.

Wiggins is very young indeed and will hopefully develop nicely.

My answer was provoked by the overall under-appreciation of our own young players, compared to the "grass is always greener" approach we have with youngsters from other teams.

Kelly has a monster game for his country when it matters. Well, sure, he is supposed to. Inferior competition, yadayada...

The "already clearly vastly superior" Wiggins goes up against the same competition and fails when in matters most. That's ok, he is young.

[rollie mass]

kelly had a good game all in all but his defence let him down more than several times,also there was a run of bobbles,not extending for a pass that led to steal ,a charge and poor execution of a two on one and going length of court only to get stripped
-his shooting could not be faulted and he did get 13 rebounds-and his teamates stunk up the court - i watched the full replay

[DarkAzcura]

Olynyk has been playing against vastly inferior competition and should have been dominating in this tournament from the start. That he finally had a dominating game against the unbelievably bad front line of Venezuela means exactly squat about how he will play next year. Its the equivalent of a top 2 pick in the NBA Draft having a good summer league game after playing bad to okay for a bunch of summer league games before that.

How about Wiggins? 

Wiggins won Rookie of the Year and has been hailed as the next big star, yet from what I've seen Olynyk has easily outplayed him in this tournament.

Did he?  That's not what I have read.  I read that Wiggins was one of the best players in the entire tournament.  I read Wiggins made the all-tournament team.  BTW, Canada had more NBA talent on their team than any team participating.

Wiggins averaged 15 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, with 49% shooting (52% from three) in 25.5mpg.   Olynyk was good as well... 11.9 ppg, 7.5 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 21.6mpg

I don't get the point in comparing them.  Olynyk is 4 years older than Wiggins.  Kelly has 3 years of College ball and 2 years of NBA basketball under his belt.   Wiggins is coming off a rookie season after a single season of College basketball and he's already clearly vastly superior to Kelly Olynyk.  Wiggins projects as an all-star talent.  Olynyk might not project as a long-term starter.   I like Kelly though.  Good to see him playing well.   

Kelly's skillset makes sense in that style of basketball.   For those that care... Looks like Nik Stauskas (on the same team as Wiggins/Olynyk) played well too.  12.3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists in 23.1mpg with 54% shooting, 50% from three and 100% from the line.   Isn't it known that Euro ball favors shooters?  Stauskas was probably more impressive than Olynyk in that tourney.  FWIW, part of the reason they lost to Venezuela (the losing effort Kelly played well in) was due to Stauskas dealing with food poisoning:

Stauskas finished the event on the sidelines after a bout with food poisoning. He was hospitalized before the semifinals and scored just 2 points and played 15 minutes in the devastating loss to Venezuela and sat out the bronze medal game

It also sounds like Anthony Bennett (also on team Canada) was impressive for most of the tournament.

Aahhh ehhhh, Nik didn't have a better tournament than Olynyk. You had to watch the games. Wiggins and Olynyk were clearly the two best players on the team for them. I don't see the point in comparing Wiggins and Olynyk either FYI. Anyway the offense was pretty much run through Olynyk in all of the "must-win" games for Canada. Much higher responsibility than Nik even if the stats don't show it.

I think the point of the other poster, however, was that it is kind of grating that people love to make excuses to demean a Celtics player performance but love to prop up players of other teams. It's a grass isn't always greener on the other side comment.

[LarBrd33]

Olynyk has been playing against vastly inferior competition and should have been dominating in this tournament from the start. That he finally had a dominating game against the unbelievably bad front line of Venezuela means exactly squat about how he will play next year. Its the equivalent of a top 2 pick in the NBA Draft having a good summer league game after playing bad to okay for a bunch of summer league games before that.

How about Wiggins? 

Wiggins won Rookie of the Year and has been hailed as the next big star, yet from what I've seen Olynyk has easily outplayed him in this tournament.

Did he?  That's not what I have read.  I read that Wiggins was one of the best players in the entire tournament.  I read Wiggins made the all-tournament team.  BTW, Canada had more NBA talent on their team than any team participating.

Wiggins averaged 15 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, with 49% shooting (52% from three) in 25.5mpg.   Olynyk was good as well... 11.9 ppg, 7.5 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 21.6mpg

I don't get the point in comparing them.  Olynyk is 4 years older than Wiggins.  Kelly has 3 years of College ball and 2 years of NBA basketball under his belt.   Wiggins is coming off a rookie season after a single season of College basketball and he's already clearly vastly superior to Kelly Olynyk.  Wiggins projects as an all-star talent.  Olynyk might not project as a long-term starter.   I like Kelly though.  Good to see him playing well.   

Kelly's skillset makes sense in that style of basketball.   For those that care... Looks like Nik Stauskas (on the same team as Wiggins/Olynyk) played well too.  12.3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists in 23.1mpg with 54% shooting, 50% from three and 100% from the line.   Isn't it known that Euro ball favors shooters?  Stauskas was probably more impressive than Olynyk in that tourney.  FWIW, part of the reason they lost to Venezuela (the losing effort Kelly played well in) was due to Stauskas dealing with food poisoning:

Stauskas finished the event on the sidelines after a bout with food poisoning. He was hospitalized before the semifinals and scored just 2 points and played 15 minutes in the devastating loss to Venezuela and sat out the bronze medal game

It also sounds like Anthony Bennett (also on team Canada) was impressive for most of the tournament.

Aahhh ehhhh, Nik didn't have a better tournament than Olynyk. You had to watch the games. Wiggins and Olynyk were clearly the two best players on the team for them. I don't see the point in comparing Wiggins and Olynyk either FYI. Anyway the offense was pretty much run through Olynyk in all of the "must-win" games for Canada. Much higher responsibility than Nik even if the stats don't show it.

I think the point of the other poster, however, was that it is kind of grating that people love to make excuses to demean a Celtics player performance but love to prop up players of other teams. It's a grass isn't always greener on the other side comment.

you must have been seeing something different than the writers I've read because they made it seem like the three most important players on Canada were wiggins, stauskas and Bennett.

[D.o.s.]

^Links?

[littleteapot]

Aahhh ehhhh, Nik didn't have a better tournament than Olynyk. You had to watch the games. Wiggins and Olynyk were clearly the two best players on the team for them. I don't see the point in comparing Wiggins and Olynyk either FYI. Anyway the offense was pretty much run through Olynyk in all of the "must-win" games for Canada. Much higher responsibility than Nik even if the stats don't show it.

I think the point of the other poster, however, was that it is kind of grating that people love to make excuses to demean a Celtics player performance but love to prop up players of other teams. It's a grass isn't always greener on the other side comment.

I don't think anyone here doesn't think Kelly Olynyk isn't better than any random 10-15 pick from a past draft. When you pick out Andrew Wiggins to compare Olynyk to, people are weirdly going to find what you say to be absurd. No one is saying Kendall Marshall is better than Olynyk.

[D.o.s.]

Well, I am. Now. Because I'm a sucker for low hanging fruit.

Marshall>Olynyk.

[SHAQATTACK]

Wiggins = the trade Philly will ALWAYS regret .

 

[hwangjini_1]

kelly had a good game all in all but his defence let him down more than several times,also there was a run of bobbles,not extending for a pass that led to steal ,a charge and poor execution of a two on one and going length of court only to get stripped
-his shooting could not be faulted and he did get 13 rebounds-and his teamates stunk up the court - i watched the full replay

thanks rollie. so it seems that olly is still olly. a pretty good offensive big man who stretches the floor and can rebound. plus a good passer. on the negative side, limited defense and not nearly an all star.

sounds like a good big man to have in the rotation but not start on a contender. much as this board as concluded so far.

[DarkAzcura]

Aahhh ehhhh, Nik didn't have a better tournament than Olynyk. You had to watch the games. Wiggins and Olynyk were clearly the two best players on the team for them. I don't see the point in comparing Wiggins and Olynyk either FYI. Anyway the offense was pretty much run through Olynyk in all of the "must-win" games for Canada. Much higher responsibility than Nik even if the stats don't show it.

I think the point of the other poster, however, was that it is kind of grating that people love to make excuses to demean a Celtics player performance but love to prop up players of other teams. It's a grass isn't always greener on the other side comment.

I don't think anyone here doesn't think Kelly Olynyk isn't better than any random 10-15 pick from a past draft. When you pick out Andrew Wiggins to compare Olynyk to, people are weirdly going to find what you say to be absurd. No one is saying Kendall Marshall is better than Olynyk.

What? When did I compare Olynyk to Wiggins? I was agreeing that it was weird to compare the two players in the first place considering the age difference.

Olynyk has been playing against vastly inferior competition and should have been dominating in this tournament from the start. That he finally had a dominating game against the unbelievably bad front line of Venezuela means exactly squat about how he will play next year. Its the equivalent of a top 2 pick in the NBA Draft having a good summer league game after playing bad to okay for a bunch of summer league games before that.

How about Wiggins? 

Wiggins won Rookie of the Year and has been hailed as the next big star, yet from what I've seen Olynyk has easily outplayed him in this tournament.

Did he?  That's not what I have read.  I read that Wiggins was one of the best players in the entire tournament.  I read Wiggins made the all-tournament team.  BTW, Canada had more NBA talent on their team than any team participating.

Wiggins averaged 15 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, with 49% shooting (52% from three) in 25.5mpg.   Olynyk was good as well... 11.9 ppg, 7.5 rebounds, 2.3 assists in 21.6mpg

I don't get the point in comparing them.  Olynyk is 4 years older than Wiggins.  Kelly has 3 years of College ball and 2 years of NBA basketball under his belt.   Wiggins is coming off a rookie season after a single season of College basketball and he's already clearly vastly superior to Kelly Olynyk.  Wiggins projects as an all-star talent.  Olynyk might not project as a long-term starter.   I like Kelly though.  Good to see him playing well.   

Kelly's skillset makes sense in that style of basketball.   For those that care... Looks like Nik Stauskas (on the same team as Wiggins/Olynyk) played well too.  12.3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists in 23.1mpg with 54% shooting, 50% from three and 100% from the line.   Isn't it known that Euro ball favors shooters?  Stauskas was probably more impressive than Olynyk in that tourney.  FWIW, part of the reason they lost to Venezuela (the losing effort Kelly played well in) was due to Stauskas dealing with food poisoning:

Stauskas finished the event on the sidelines after a bout with food poisoning. He was hospitalized before the semifinals and scored just 2 points and played 15 minutes in the devastating loss to Venezuela and sat out the bronze medal game

It also sounds like Anthony Bennett (also on team Canada) was impressive for most of the tournament.

Aahhh ehhhh, Nik didn't have a better tournament than Olynyk. You had to watch the games. Wiggins and Olynyk were clearly the two best players on the team for them. I don't see the point in comparing Wiggins and Olynyk either FYI. Anyway the offense was pretty much run through Olynyk in all of the "must-win" games for Canada. Much higher responsibility than Nik even if the stats don't show it.

I think the point of the other poster, however, was that it is kind of grating that people love to make excuses to demean a Celtics player performance but love to prop up players of other teams. It's a grass isn't always greener on the other side comment.

you must have been seeing something different than the writers I've read because they made it seem like the three most important players on Canada were wiggins, stauskas and Bennett.

Maybe they were surprised by how well Bennett and Nik played considering how poorly they play in the NBA, but that's all it probably is. Most Toronto fans and Canada writers had Wiggins and Olynyk as the two of the three or four most important players for Canada before the tournament even started. Olynyk played as expected for them in some of their bigger games during the tournament so there probably isn't a ton of fanfare for doing what everyone thought you were going to do. Bennett and Nik playing as well as they did was a big surprise for a lot of people. It's no surprise to me that Canadian writers are hyping those two players up now considering they may be much better international players than NBA players.