Lee better suited to come off the bench?

[Tr1boy]

In my opinion he would be better coming off the bench.   IT and Lee could make a tough PNR pair

Lee does not really "fit" CBS system (mediocre defender, lack of jump shot) but he can play.


I would like to see either Sully or KO start with Amir. Then have Zeller or Jerebko play with Lee off the bench , to help him out on the defensive end.

[Csfan1984]

I'm all for Lee off the bench but I noticed I have some different views from the majority on here when it comes to starters and bench for the most part.

[Granath]

I've said numerous times that Lee won't be starting. He's a 22 minute per game bench player who should thrive playing against backups.

[Celtics4ever]

Lee does not really "fit" CBS system (mediocre defender, lack of jump shot) but he can play.


I would like to see either Sully or KO start with Amir. Then have Zeller or Jerebko play with Lee off the bench , to help him out on the defensive end.

Then how does Sully fit it.   He is a poor three point shooter, poor defender but he can play?  This is not even mentioning not running the floor.

Both these guys are not long term answers, what they bring to the table, requires a special type of five who can cover their butts.   Only Jonas and Zeller and Amir out the above group are credible defenders.

[SHAQATTACK]

Well if the Cavs fail to get a title this coming season .  Maybe Love asks to leave.

[BDeCosta26]

Well, I could totally see him coming off the bench in a fairly high usage role. Him and IT are devastating P&R players. We could certainly go with both of them playing big minutes off the bench and they'd do damage to other teams 2nd units.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Lee does not really "fit" CBS system (mediocre defender, lack of jump shot) but he can play.


I would like to see either Sully or KO start with Amir. Then have Zeller or Jerebko play with Lee off the bench , to help him out on the defensive end.

Then how does Sully fit it.   He is a poor three point shooter, poor defender but he can play?  This is not even mentioning not running the floor.

Both these guys are not long term answers, what they bring to the table, requires a special type of five who can cover their butts.   Only Jonas and Zeller and Amir out the above group are credible defenders.

Not that I agree with the OP's premise, but he specifically mentioned jump shot. You're qualifying it as a 3-point shot. Not what he's talking about here.

Lee is fully capable of hitting jump shots though, but last year he was bad at it.

[Tr1boy]

Well, I could totally see him coming off the bench in a fairly high usage role. Him and IT are devastating P&R players. We could certainly go with both of them playing big minutes off the bench and they'd do damage to other teams 2nd units.

+1

[Yoki_IsTheName]

No.

First of all, Lee is not a medicore defender, he's decent. He's a bad rim protector, decent in the pick and roll and good one on one on the interior. He also has a good 18 footer, contrary to the lack of jump shot claim.

He's by far our best player. A consistent 18-20 point scorer and a great rebounder. Even when he went off the bench in GSW, his per minutes production matches his All Star numbers. He also provides an extra playmaker on the floor with his passing ability and a knack for finding cutters and open guys. Why would you bring that guy off the bench?

[Celts Fan 508]

No.

First of all, Lee is not a medicore defender, he's decent. He's a bad rim protector, decent in the pick and roll and good one on one on the interior. He also has a good 18 footer, contrary to the lack of jump shot claim.

He's by far our best player. A consistent 18-20 point scorer and a great rebounder. Even when he went off the bench in GSW, his per minutes production matches his All Star numbers. He also provides an extra playmaker on the floor with his passing ability and a knack for finding cutters and open guys. Why would you bring that guy off the bench?

I agree with most of this but saying that he's by far our best player is a bit of hyperbole.  I agree he probably is our best player but not by far. 

[Rosco917]

Lee is a FA next year, he's 32, why feature him as our starting PF, the chances of him being with us long term is zero. The C's aren't a contender. IMO develop a younger, better defending PF that has a shot at being around in the future.
I like Lee off the bench, he'll get you points, and defend well enough to deal with 2nd team players. 

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Lee is a FA next year, he's 32, why feature him as our starting PF, the chances of him being with us long term is zero. The C's aren't a contender. IMO develop a younger, better defending PF that has a shot at being around in the future.
I like Lee off the bench, he'll get you points, and defend well enough to deal with 2nd team players.

Do you want to win games? Because that's how you win games. 

[Tr1boy]

Lee is a FA next year, he's 32, why feature him as our starting PF, the chances of him being with us long term is zero. The C's aren't a contender. IMO develop a younger, better defending PF that has a shot at being around in the future.
I like Lee off the bench, he'll get you points, and defend well enough to deal with 2nd team players.

+1. I agree with this.  But whoever can help the team will play. It doesn't matter if it's KO, Lee, Mickey.  If you can play, excel under CBS system you will see minutes.

I just think Lee would work best with IT off the bench

[Celtics18]

No.

First of all, Lee is not a medicore defender, he's decent. He's a bad rim protector, decent in the pick and roll and good one on one on the interior. He also has a good 18 footer, contrary to the lack of jump shot claim.

He's by far our best player. A consistent 18-20 point scorer and a great rebounder. Even when he went off the bench in GSW, his per minutes production matches his All Star numbers. He also provides an extra playmaker on the floor with his passing ability and a knack for finding cutters and open guys. Why would you bring that guy off the bench?

Well, last season Kelly Olynyk scored at a better rate per minute with a slightly higher true shooting percentage.  Lee had better passing numbers and better rebounding numbers.

Defensively, I'd give the edge to Olynyk, although they have different strengths and weaknesses.

A big plus for Kelly is that he's our only big that has legitimate three point range.

David Lee's career would seem to be on its downward arc, while our young bigs--Sullinger, Olynyk, Zeller--are presumably still on an upward arc.

David Lee might win the starting job, but I think it's far from a sure thing. 

[Tr1boy]

No.

First of all, Lee is not a medicore defender, he's decent. He's a bad rim protector, decent in the pick and roll and good one on one on the interior. He also has a good 18 footer, contrary to the lack of jump shot claim.

He's by far our best player. A consistent 18-20 point scorer and a great rebounder. Even when he went off the bench in GSW, his per minutes production matches his All Star numbers. He also provides an extra playmaker on the floor with his passing ability and a knack for finding cutters and open guys. Why would you bring that guy off the bench?

Well, last season Kelly Olynyk scored at a better rate per minute with a slightly higher true shooting percentage.  Lee had better passing numbers and better rebounding numbers.

Defensively, I'd give the edge to Olynyk, although they have different strengths and weaknesses.

A big plus for Kelly is that he's our only big that has legitimate three point range.

David Lee's career would seem to be on its downward arc, while our young bigs--Sullinger, Olynyk, Zeller--are presumably still on an upward arc.

David Lee might win the starting job, but I think it's far from a sure thing.

I agree on many of your points. Lee to me is going down the Luis Scola path. Off the bench 6-8pts, 5 rebounds and once in a while a good 15-20 pt , 10 rebound game. 

But it seems like a good bunch of people think he can do near 20 and 10 again without being liability on the defensive end.  If this was true , GSW would of played him alot more last season. And he was healthy in the 2nd half.

Instead GSW went with Bogut , Green and even Ezeli ahead of Lee.