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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2015, 01:23:58 AM »

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I'm not going to bother to look at this list when I see Glen Rice (Jr. I assume, because Glen Rice Sr. was amazing).  I know for a fact Rice Jr. was a 2nd round pick in 2013.  Also, I don't know why we're comparing a center with NBA experience in Dedemon to a SG in his first summer league like Hunter.

You've outdone yourself this time, LarBird.  I really hope you hire out your trolling services.

Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2015, 01:34:38 AM »

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Lot of people still seem overly excited about RJ Hunter.  Just for reference, here's a list of undrafted scrubs who put up similar/better stats to RJ Hunter in summer league.  I excluded players who did enough in College to get drafted. 

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Name        EFF    POS G m/g p/g r/g a/g s/g b/g
Justin Dentmon 19.00 PG 5 24.7 17.0 2.2 2.6 2.8 0.2
DJ Kennedy 18.25 SG 4 29.2 13.8 7.5 2.3 2.8 0.3
Troy Daniels 16.75 SG 4 30.7 13.5 7.8 2.5 0.5 0.0
Glen Rice    16.40 SF 5 29.9 19.0 4.6 2.6 2.4 0.0
Keith Appling 15.60 PG 5 26.3 15.6 1.2 3.0 3.0 0.2
Willie Reed 15.33 SF 9 24.1 10.6 7.8 1.0 0.3 1.2
Sean Kilpatrick 15.00 SG 6 28.7 18.2 3.2 0.8 1.5 0.3
Malcolm Thomas 15.00 SF 6 24.9 11.8 5.8 0.7 0.7 1.2
Victor Rudd 14.83 SF 6 27.1 12.5 6.8 1.5 0.8 0.5
Mike James 14.71 PG 7 25.3 12.6 4.3 3.9 1.7 0.4
Alan Williams 14.71 C 7 19.6 12.1 7.7 1.1 0.6 0.3
Shawn Jones 14.67 PF 6 19.6 9.7 7.8 0.7 0.3 1.0
Scotty Hopson 14.60 SG 5 26.1 15.4 5.2 2.2 1.2 0.4
G. Whittington 14.56 SF 9 24.5 9.1 6.2 2.0 1.4 1.3
Khem Birch 14.44 PF 9 22.6 7.9 7.2 0.6 0.2 2.8
Bryce Cotton     14.25 PG 8 26.5 15.4 3.9 3.8 1.3 0.0
James McAdoo 13.80 PF 5 25.5 16.4 6.0 1.8 0.8 0.8
Jarrid Famous 13.60 PF 5 20.3 10.2 6.8 0.4 0.6 0.4
J. Simmons 13.50 PG 10 25.0 15.5 4.2 2.4 1.4 0.4
Jabari Brown 13.33 SG 3 30.5 17.7 3.3 1.3 1.0 0.3
Ronald Roberts 13.25 PF 4 23.6 10.3 9.5 0.8 0.5 0.3
DJ Newbill         13.25 SG 4 28.3 10.3 3.5 2.8 2.8 0.0
Edy Tavares 13.00 C 6 20.5 7.2 6.7 0.3 0.3 2.8
Ian Clark    12.80 SG 5 25.6 13.4 2.8 3.4 1.6 0.6
R Galloway 12.67 PG 6 25.3 10.7 3.0 4.8 1.8 0.3
Melvin Ejim 12.40 SF 5 30.1 9.2 6.8 1.6 1.0 0.0
Scott Machado 12.33 SG 6 22.3 10.5 3.3 3.8 1.7 0.3
Micheal Eric       11.67 PF 6 23.3 6.2 8.0 0.8 0.7 3.2
Jack Cooley 11.25 PF 8 19.5 7.9 6.9 0.4 0.8 0.8
Tim Frazier 11.00 PG 6 30.7 9.8 4.2 7.5 0.3 0.0
Jorge Gutierrez 10.67 SG 6 27.5 6.5 2.8 6.2 2.7 0.2
Kevin Jones 10.25 PF 8 20.0 10.5 5.5 0.4 0.3 0.0
Jared Berggren 10.20 C 5 25.3 5.2 5.0 0.8 0.2 1.8
Brian Qvale 10.20 C 5 21.6 6.0 5.2 1.4 1.0 1.6
Fuquan Edwin 10.17 SF 6 20.5 11.2 2.5 0.7 1.0 0.5
John Shurna 10.00 SF 5 18.3 8.8 4.0 1.0 0.8 0.8
DJ Seeley    10.00 SG 5 22.4 10.8 3.4 2.6 1.4 0.2
D. Sutton    10.00 SF 6 22.1 10.2 5.0 1.3 2.2 0.3
Diante Garrett 10.00 PG 11 23.8 9.9 2.5 4.0 1.1 0.4
Matt Bouldin 10.00 SG 5 20.8 10.4 3.4 1.8 1.4 0.0
Kelsey Barlow    9.50  SG 2 14.0 7.0 2.0 2.5 0.5 0.5
L. Galloway 9.50  SG 4 31.2 9.8 5.5 1.5 1.0 0.3
Chris Johnson 9.43  SF 7 23.9 8.3 3.3 1.9 1.3 1.0
RJ Hunter  9.38  SG 8 22.4 12.0 2.8 1.3 0.6 0.3
CJ Fair        9.38  SF 8 18.5 7.9 4.8 1.3 0.4 0.4
Vander Blue 9.17  SG 6 27.4 7.8 5.2 2.8 0.7 0.0
Jarell Eddie 9.17  SF 12 24.4 10.9 3.3 0.5 0.3 0.5
Casey Prather 9.00  SF 3 16.9 8.7 5.3 1.0 0.0 0.0
John Bohannon 9.00  C 5 22.0 6.2 5.4 1.4 0.4 1.0
JaMychal Green 9.00  SF 1 5.5 10.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0
Manuel Atkins 9.00  SF 2 12.2 6.5 3.5 0.5 0.5 1.0

Hokey smokes, Andy.  You are the antidote to exhilaration. I was thinking that they were going to hang #28 up in the rafters.   :'(

Yeah, me too.  I was positively giddy about RJ Hunter, the future superstar, until LarBrd's cold dose of reality brought me back down to earth.

I mean, it's the boring time of year so I don't blame anyone for making a bigger deal out of this thread than necessary.  There was a popular thread on the front of the Celtics reddit today that literally asked, "Is the next Klay Thompson growing in Boston?": https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/3h83wn/rj_hunter_summer_league_play_analysis_oc/

... so let's not pretend like this post is coming out of nowhere.  It's literally the top post on the Boston Celtics subreddit right now.  People are overreacting to summer league performances.  As PhoSita pointed out a couple posts down, we have the tendency to overreact to any semblance of "success" in relation to the Celtics and context can get lost.  My only point was that there's at least 100 players who outperformed RJ Hunter in summer league... and by my count there were 40+ undrafted scrubs who outperformed RJ Hunter in summer league this year.   Take a look at some of those unknowns... guys like Kelsey Barlow, Vander Blue, Chris Johnson... complete nobodies.  I've never even heard of these guys.   I mean... I'm not comparing RJ Hunter to those unknowns.  RJ Hunter might have a future.  It's little unfair to RJ hunter to suggest that one of those bums would be considered a "future starter" simply for wearing Celtic green.  I doubt anyone around here would actually do that.  For example, I'll randomly select the guy who finished right above Hunter in that ranking... some random player named Chris Johnson.   I doubt anyone would ever suggest that bum Chris Johnson would be a "future starter" simply for wearing Celtic green.  I agree it's an exaggeration to assume anyone would do that.  It's not like every random player who plays for the Celtics is considered a potential long-term starter. 

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=69570.0

But all I'm saying is that we should temper our enthusiasm a bit and have some context.  Hunter averaged 12 points while shooting 34%.   Considering that he's coming off a Junior year of College where he averaged 19.7 points, 4.7 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 2.1 steals... It's perfectly reasonable that he'd put up some stats against comparable competition in Summer league.  He was taken 28th this year for a reason.  He was widely seen as better than the vast majority of players participating in Summer league that he was drafted ahead of.  It shouldn't be a shock that he was capable of putting up 12 points on 34% shooting against lesser players.   He put up stats comparable with what Brian Scalabrine did in Summer league many years ago (Scal put up similar College stats).  Let's hold back before we anoint these Scalabrine-esque stats as a sign that he's the next Klay Thompson, you know?   He's got a long road ahead of him.  He probably doesn't get out of d-league this year.
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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2015, 01:41:36 AM »

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I think we were truly blessed to have him drop to us at 28.
Not many people know this for some reason, but a lot of scouts and 'experts' put RJ Hunter in the top 20. There were even talks about him being a lottery pick yet because he played for his dad at a mid level school, it made people question his skill vs NBA competition.

You probably watched summer league, and it's always taken with a grain of salt- but regardless of how he played well, what was most exciting was how quickly he showed a serious feel for the game.
That's probably what got people most excited about him. He gets it.
Rozier was similar, although not quite as calm/relaxed as Hunter was.

I think with some players you can get a grasp if they have the tools to at least have a chance of becoming a solid player- and watching Hunter's understanding of the game and his cool, calm attitude was genuinely exciting for me.

I was also surprised at how complete his game was. I was basically under the impression that he was a 3 point chucker with length- ala Danny Green.
But he appears to have a more complete skill set then just shooting threes.

 Hopefully the spacing in the NBA and not being the best player on the court at all times means he'll have an even easier time getting up good looks without being triple and double teamed. His team was pretty awful and he was carrying them.

Smart, long, comes from basketball pedigree and has top 10 3 point shooting potential (or better) in the NBA.
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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2015, 01:58:19 AM »

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I'm not going to bother to look at this list when I see Glen Rice (Jr. I assume, because Glen Rice Sr. was amazing).  I know for a fact Rice Jr. was a 2nd round pick in 2013.
Good call.  I literally went to a website, sorted by EFF, filtered out anyone who had draft data, and cut and pasted the results.  Took about a minute and a half.   It must have missed Rice Jr's draft info and accidentally included him.  So that means there's only 42 undrafted semi-pro scrubs who outperformed Hunter in summer league... instead of the 43 listed.  My mistake.

Imagine if we signed those 42 semi-pros... we'd have enough future starter talent to fill 8 NBA starting lineups.



Also, I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't notice Glen Rice Jr's name on that list.   He was the Summerleague MVP last season, afterall... completely dominated (24.7 points, 7.8 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 2.5 steals, 47%/36%/73%).  Then he springboarded that dominance into 5 big appearances for the Washington Wizards where he averaged 2.2 points, 0.8 rebounds, 0.4 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals with 20% shooting and 14% from three.  Not fair to lump the 2013 D-League champion/2014 Summer-League MVP in with the rest of those scrubs. 

Again, the point was just to give some context into the historic RJ Hunter performance that lead to comparisons to Klay Thompson...  throw a dart at any one of the 40+ names on that list... if they put up those stats on the Celtic Summerleague squad, there'd be threads here calling the guy a future starter.

Just substitute RJ Hunter with any one of those names:  http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79973.0 ... I literally just picked one at random.  Here you go...  "The Case for Starting Khem Birch": 

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Is Khem Birch the next great Celtic?   Here's his qualifications:

-Averaged 11.5 points, 10.2 rebounds, 1.2 assists and 3.8 blocks in 31mpg at Nevada-Las Vegas
-2014 D-League per-36 stats of 15.3 points, 13 rebounds, 2.4 blocks and 1.7 assists with 70% shooting. 
-In just 22.6mpg, he put up 8 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks on 60% shooting in summer league over 9 games played.  That made him a top 20 summer league performer in per-minute stats.
-Only 6-9 and 220 pounds, but has a 7'1 wingspan and a ridiculous 35.5 inch vertiical with an 8'11 standing reach.

Could Khem Birch the starting rim protector we have long sought for?

Only plausible if Khem Birch wore a Celtic uniform.  Btw, I had never heard of Khem Birch until writing this post.  That's my point.
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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2015, 03:49:11 AM »

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Lot of people still seem overly excited about RJ Hunter.  Just for reference, here's a list of undrafted scrubs who put up similar/better stats to RJ Hunter in summer league.  I excluded players who did enough in College to get drafted. 

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Name        EFF    POS G m/g p/g r/g a/g s/g b/g
Justin Dentmon 19.00 PG 5 24.7 17.0 2.2 2.6 2.8 0.2
DJ Kennedy 18.25 SG 4 29.2 13.8 7.5 2.3 2.8 0.3
Troy Daniels 16.75 SG 4 30.7 13.5 7.8 2.5 0.5 0.0
Glen Rice    16.40 SF 5 29.9 19.0 4.6 2.6 2.4 0.0
Keith Appling 15.60 PG 5 26.3 15.6 1.2 3.0 3.0 0.2
Willie Reed 15.33 SF 9 24.1 10.6 7.8 1.0 0.3 1.2
Sean Kilpatrick 15.00 SG 6 28.7 18.2 3.2 0.8 1.5 0.3
Malcolm Thomas 15.00 SF 6 24.9 11.8 5.8 0.7 0.7 1.2
Victor Rudd 14.83 SF 6 27.1 12.5 6.8 1.5 0.8 0.5
Mike James 14.71 PG 7 25.3 12.6 4.3 3.9 1.7 0.4
Alan Williams 14.71 C 7 19.6 12.1 7.7 1.1 0.6 0.3
Shawn Jones 14.67 PF 6 19.6 9.7 7.8 0.7 0.3 1.0
Scotty Hopson 14.60 SG 5 26.1 15.4 5.2 2.2 1.2 0.4
G. Whittington 14.56 SF 9 24.5 9.1 6.2 2.0 1.4 1.3
Khem Birch 14.44 PF 9 22.6 7.9 7.2 0.6 0.2 2.8
Bryce Cotton     14.25 PG 8 26.5 15.4 3.9 3.8 1.3 0.0
James McAdoo 13.80 PF 5 25.5 16.4 6.0 1.8 0.8 0.8
Jarrid Famous 13.60 PF 5 20.3 10.2 6.8 0.4 0.6 0.4
J. Simmons 13.50 PG 10 25.0 15.5 4.2 2.4 1.4 0.4
Jabari Brown 13.33 SG 3 30.5 17.7 3.3 1.3 1.0 0.3
Ronald Roberts 13.25 PF 4 23.6 10.3 9.5 0.8 0.5 0.3
DJ Newbill         13.25 SG 4 28.3 10.3 3.5 2.8 2.8 0.0
Edy Tavares 13.00 C 6 20.5 7.2 6.7 0.3 0.3 2.8
Ian Clark    12.80 SG 5 25.6 13.4 2.8 3.4 1.6 0.6
R Galloway 12.67 PG 6 25.3 10.7 3.0 4.8 1.8 0.3
Melvin Ejim 12.40 SF 5 30.1 9.2 6.8 1.6 1.0 0.0
Scott Machado 12.33 SG 6 22.3 10.5 3.3 3.8 1.7 0.3
Micheal Eric       11.67 PF 6 23.3 6.2 8.0 0.8 0.7 3.2
Jack Cooley 11.25 PF 8 19.5 7.9 6.9 0.4 0.8 0.8
Tim Frazier 11.00 PG 6 30.7 9.8 4.2 7.5 0.3 0.0
Jorge Gutierrez 10.67 SG 6 27.5 6.5 2.8 6.2 2.7 0.2
Kevin Jones 10.25 PF 8 20.0 10.5 5.5 0.4 0.3 0.0
Jared Berggren 10.20 C 5 25.3 5.2 5.0 0.8 0.2 1.8
Brian Qvale 10.20 C 5 21.6 6.0 5.2 1.4 1.0 1.6
Fuquan Edwin 10.17 SF 6 20.5 11.2 2.5 0.7 1.0 0.5
John Shurna 10.00 SF 5 18.3 8.8 4.0 1.0 0.8 0.8
DJ Seeley    10.00 SG 5 22.4 10.8 3.4 2.6 1.4 0.2
D. Sutton    10.00 SF 6 22.1 10.2 5.0 1.3 2.2 0.3
Diante Garrett 10.00 PG 11 23.8 9.9 2.5 4.0 1.1 0.4
Matt Bouldin 10.00 SG 5 20.8 10.4 3.4 1.8 1.4 0.0
Kelsey Barlow    9.50  SG 2 14.0 7.0 2.0 2.5 0.5 0.5
L. Galloway 9.50  SG 4 31.2 9.8 5.5 1.5 1.0 0.3
Chris Johnson 9.43  SF 7 23.9 8.3 3.3 1.9 1.3 1.0
RJ Hunter  9.38  SG 8 22.4 12.0 2.8 1.3 0.6 0.3
CJ Fair        9.38  SF 8 18.5 7.9 4.8 1.3 0.4 0.4
Vander Blue 9.17  SG 6 27.4 7.8 5.2 2.8 0.7 0.0
Jarell Eddie 9.17  SF 12 24.4 10.9 3.3 0.5 0.3 0.5
Casey Prather 9.00  SF 3 16.9 8.7 5.3 1.0 0.0 0.0
John Bohannon 9.00  C 5 22.0 6.2 5.4 1.4 0.4 1.0
JaMychal Green 9.00  SF 1 5.5 10.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0
Manuel Atkins 9.00  SF 2 12.2 6.5 3.5 0.5 0.5 1.0

Bro, what are you talking about? Hunter's SL stats weren't even that good. People were just impressed from watching him. His presence on the court makes an impact. Besides, he is the 28th pick overall. If he's a role player it's a good pick.

Also, the reddit board you posted has like 8 comments, haha. I'm not going to lie, this is a very annoying thread because it's literally pointless. Anyway, enjoy watching Noel, aka future Tyson Chandler who you think is a future top ten player. lol.
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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2015, 07:35:53 AM »

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Thanks for the info LrdBrd.

I have now adjusted my view of Hunter downward from "possible NBA player" to "guy I wouldn't trade straight up for Joel Embiid."

Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
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Thanks for the info LrdBrd.

I have now adjusted my view of Hunter downward from "possible NBA player" to "guy I wouldn't trade straight up for Joel Embiid."

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Yeesh, tough crowd here yesterday / today. I'd be surprised if Hunter plays this year, but I don't see a point in bashing the OP, even if he / she is trolling.
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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2015, 08:41:44 AM »

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I think we were truly blessed to have him drop to us at 28.
Not many people know this for some reason, but a lot of scouts and 'experts' put RJ Hunter in the top 20. There were even talks about him being a lottery pick yet because he played for his dad at a mid level school, it made people question his skill vs NBA competition.

You probably watched summer league, and it's always taken with a grain of salt- but regardless of how he played well, what was most exciting was how quickly he showed a serious feel for the game.
That's probably what got people most excited about him. He gets it.
Rozier was similar, although not quite as calm/relaxed as Hunter was.

I think with some players you can get a grasp if they have the tools to at least have a chance of becoming a solid player- and watching Hunter's understanding of the game and his cool, calm attitude was genuinely exciting for me.

I was also surprised at how complete his game was. I was basically under the impression that he was a 3 point chucker with length- ala Danny Green.
But he appears to have a more complete skill set then just shooting threes.

 Hopefully the spacing in the NBA and not being the best player on the court at all times means he'll have an even easier time getting up good looks without being triple and double teamed. His team was pretty awful and he was carrying them.

Smart, long, comes from basketball pedigree and has top 10 3 point shooting potential (or better) in the NBA.

TP.

I admit that I was on the "anyone but RJ Hunter" bandwagon when so many people had him picked to go to us at #16. I criticized his athleticism, his supposed deadeye shooting, etc.

I'm still glad we didn't select him at #16. But after watching him in the Summer League, I have to say I was really impressed. He couldn't hit a shot the first two days but made a correction and played really well the rest of the time. But it wasn't his shooting that impressed me. It was his feel for the game and his ability to contribute in other ways. He looked better passing than I expected. He played defense better than I expected. He was a pleasant surprise. I also liked the way he rebounded from his first two disastrous games to play well most every other game. Many kids who start their first two games laying bricks like that would get down on themselves. He showed maturity not doing so.

I have no idea what his ceiling is. Only time will tell. But RJ Hunter was probably the most impressive guy in the back court not named Marcus Smart during the Summer League even though he wasn't shooting the lights out.

As for the OP...I figure it's Lar just playing the part of his avatar again.
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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2015, 09:41:30 AM »

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Lot of people still seem overly excited about RJ Hunter.  Just for reference, here's a list of undrafted scrubs who put up similar/better stats to RJ Hunter in summer league.  I excluded players who did enough in College to get drafted. 

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Name        EFF    POS G m/g p/g r/g a/g s/g b/g
Justin Dentmon 19.00 PG 5 24.7 17.0 2.2 2.6 2.8 0.2
DJ Kennedy 18.25 SG 4 29.2 13.8 7.5 2.3 2.8 0.3
Troy Daniels 16.75 SG 4 30.7 13.5 7.8 2.5 0.5 0.0
Glen Rice    16.40 SF 5 29.9 19.0 4.6 2.6 2.4 0.0
Keith Appling 15.60 PG 5 26.3 15.6 1.2 3.0 3.0 0.2
Willie Reed 15.33 SF 9 24.1 10.6 7.8 1.0 0.3 1.2
Sean Kilpatrick 15.00 SG 6 28.7 18.2 3.2 0.8 1.5 0.3
Malcolm Thomas 15.00 SF 6 24.9 11.8 5.8 0.7 0.7 1.2
Victor Rudd 14.83 SF 6 27.1 12.5 6.8 1.5 0.8 0.5
Mike James 14.71 PG 7 25.3 12.6 4.3 3.9 1.7 0.4
Alan Williams 14.71 C 7 19.6 12.1 7.7 1.1 0.6 0.3
Shawn Jones 14.67 PF 6 19.6 9.7 7.8 0.7 0.3 1.0
Scotty Hopson 14.60 SG 5 26.1 15.4 5.2 2.2 1.2 0.4
G. Whittington 14.56 SF 9 24.5 9.1 6.2 2.0 1.4 1.3
Khem Birch 14.44 PF 9 22.6 7.9 7.2 0.6 0.2 2.8
Bryce Cotton     14.25 PG 8 26.5 15.4 3.9 3.8 1.3 0.0
James McAdoo 13.80 PF 5 25.5 16.4 6.0 1.8 0.8 0.8
Jarrid Famous 13.60 PF 5 20.3 10.2 6.8 0.4 0.6 0.4
J. Simmons 13.50 PG 10 25.0 15.5 4.2 2.4 1.4 0.4
Jabari Brown 13.33 SG 3 30.5 17.7 3.3 1.3 1.0 0.3
Ronald Roberts 13.25 PF 4 23.6 10.3 9.5 0.8 0.5 0.3
DJ Newbill         13.25 SG 4 28.3 10.3 3.5 2.8 2.8 0.0
Edy Tavares 13.00 C 6 20.5 7.2 6.7 0.3 0.3 2.8
Ian Clark    12.80 SG 5 25.6 13.4 2.8 3.4 1.6 0.6
R Galloway 12.67 PG 6 25.3 10.7 3.0 4.8 1.8 0.3
Melvin Ejim 12.40 SF 5 30.1 9.2 6.8 1.6 1.0 0.0
Scott Machado 12.33 SG 6 22.3 10.5 3.3 3.8 1.7 0.3
Micheal Eric       11.67 PF 6 23.3 6.2 8.0 0.8 0.7 3.2
Jack Cooley 11.25 PF 8 19.5 7.9 6.9 0.4 0.8 0.8
Tim Frazier 11.00 PG 6 30.7 9.8 4.2 7.5 0.3 0.0
Jorge Gutierrez 10.67 SG 6 27.5 6.5 2.8 6.2 2.7 0.2
Kevin Jones 10.25 PF 8 20.0 10.5 5.5 0.4 0.3 0.0
Jared Berggren 10.20 C 5 25.3 5.2 5.0 0.8 0.2 1.8
Brian Qvale 10.20 C 5 21.6 6.0 5.2 1.4 1.0 1.6
Fuquan Edwin 10.17 SF 6 20.5 11.2 2.5 0.7 1.0 0.5
John Shurna 10.00 SF 5 18.3 8.8 4.0 1.0 0.8 0.8
DJ Seeley    10.00 SG 5 22.4 10.8 3.4 2.6 1.4 0.2
D. Sutton    10.00 SF 6 22.1 10.2 5.0 1.3 2.2 0.3
Diante Garrett 10.00 PG 11 23.8 9.9 2.5 4.0 1.1 0.4
Matt Bouldin 10.00 SG 5 20.8 10.4 3.4 1.8 1.4 0.0
Kelsey Barlow    9.50  SG 2 14.0 7.0 2.0 2.5 0.5 0.5
L. Galloway 9.50  SG 4 31.2 9.8 5.5 1.5 1.0 0.3
Chris Johnson 9.43  SF 7 23.9 8.3 3.3 1.9 1.3 1.0
RJ Hunter  9.38  SG 8 22.4 12.0 2.8 1.3 0.6 0.3
CJ Fair        9.38  SF 8 18.5 7.9 4.8 1.3 0.4 0.4
Vander Blue 9.17  SG 6 27.4 7.8 5.2 2.8 0.7 0.0
Jarell Eddie 9.17  SF 12 24.4 10.9 3.3 0.5 0.3 0.5
Casey Prather 9.00  SF 3 16.9 8.7 5.3 1.0 0.0 0.0
John Bohannon 9.00  C 5 22.0 6.2 5.4 1.4 0.4 1.0
JaMychal Green 9.00  SF 1 5.5 10.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0
Manuel Atkins 9.00  SF 2 12.2 6.5 3.5 0.5 0.5 1.0




Many of the player listed have better stats than the first 5 picks.

Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2015, 10:52:10 AM »

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Thanks for the info LrdBrd.

I have now adjusted my view of Hunter downward from "possible NBA player" to "guy I wouldn't trade straight up for Joel Embiid."

 ;D

Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2015, 10:55:19 AM »

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Thanks for the info LrdBrd.

I have now adjusted my view of Hunter downward from "possible NBA player" to "guy I wouldn't trade straight up for Joel Embiid."

 ;D
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Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2015, 10:59:39 AM »

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Great.

Got it.  RJ Hunter could end up being a bum.  I'm glad someone had the decency to inform us of this possibility.

Probably just makes more sense to never get excited about any young Celtics' players.  If we do, we are just being set up for disappointment, and of course there's the added downside that we'll be mercilessly mocked and jeered for our delusional optimism.

DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2015, 11:05:45 AM »

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Seems like all the mocking and jeering is coming from the other side in this thread.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: Undrafted Players who put up similar/better SL stats to RJ Hunter
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2015, 11:07:53 AM »

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LarBrd33 here's a good question for you:

Would you rather Bismarck Biyombo here for 4 years on a cheap/reasonable deal or...
We draft RJ Hunter with the #28?

"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.