So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15

[2short]

I'd go with two for one deal to start season.  Bradley and sully paired together take best offer.

[ahonui06]

How about AB & Sully for Kaman, Mike Miller, and Portland's 2016 1st with light protection?

Fellow Celtic, why would a tanking team trade their 1st?

well, because Sully is just oozing with potential..             okay you're right.

Would have to agree that Portland is definitely keeping their 2016 pick at all costs this year. They're definitely in rebuild mode with LMA leaving and trading off Batum.

[Nemam Nabytek]

those on here who want to let Sully go are NUTS in my opinion.  this guy has rare skills and is turning into a very reliable player: good option on offense; darned good rebounder.  yet so many posters here are quick to write him off.  the guy is a star in the making (see his stats vs Sacramento), and now that he's gotten the wake up call on fitness, watch him turn into an all star.  he is a vital part of our future.

[mgent]

those on here who want to let Sully go are NUTS in my opinion.  this guy has rare skills and is turning into a very reliable player: good option on offense; darned good rebounder.  yet so many posters here are quick to write him off.  the guy is a star in the making (see his stats vs Sacramento), and now that he's gotten the wake up call on fitness, watch him turn into an all star.  he is a vital part of our future.

I don't think he's vital or even reliable, but I agree we'd be silly to let him or KO go (for anything less than a good/fair package).  I'd much rather wait and see where they turn out as players.

Patience is a virtue.

Do people really not remember how we traded Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups?

Even if we don't decide to keep them, we can possibly get a lot more value back in the future.  We might get less if they turn out busts, but those are the exact type of calculated risks you need to take at this point in a rebuild.

If we're shopping players, I'd rather go with Zeller, who is a known player and unlikely to ever improve (same with Bradley and to a lesser extent Crowder/Jerebko).

[loco_91]

I'm sure it will be a trade, but I think James Young and PJIII would be on the chopping block if we were going to cut someone.

[chambers]

I think they'll keep PJ3 and Turner will probably go in a trade.

Ainge has to decide if he rolls the dice on PJ3 and sees if they've got a keeper or if he keeps Turner around and signs him to a longer bargain deal at the end of this year.

Ultimately, Turner probably isn't being considered as a piece of a potential championship Celtics team, so I think he's likely to go.
I actually said when Turner was signed that it was an upmarket version of us signing Jordan Crawford and then moving him for some 2nd round picks or similar.
Clippers sure could use a cheap deal like Turner to bolster their playoff run. A couple of future 2nd round picks for Turner would be a good move for them.
To toot my own horn, I said that the Clippers should go after Prigioni once the Rockets waived him- and they did

Turner would be a good piece next to Reddick/Stephenson as a ball handler with size- he'd be solid against some of those tough 2nd units in the West during the playoffs and could come in for Pierce as small forward or as CP3 as PG.

I'm probably wearing my green goggles now, but if all we can squeeze out of the Clips for ET's expiring is two picks (probably in the 50s), I say keep him until the All Star Break.

My reasoning is this: ET has no chance of being (or even developing into) a starter for a contender. But what he brings on the table as a role player is quite unique (a ball handler with size and a good mid-range shot).

If the right suitor appears we get a good deal. If not, oh well, we'll just get one second rounder instead of two. (or lose him for nothing in the summer; again, we have picks running out of our ears.)

In the meantime, ET's presence will contribute to our winning record and might help us make a decent appearance in the playoffs.

I agree with you that keeping him till trade deadline would be ideal, only problem is it's going to be hard to keep PJ3 and get a look at him if we don't cut Turner.

I think we could find someone to take him before the season starts for a similar TD package (crosses fingers) 

[chambers]

D-league to the rescue, I wager.

lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

your bias against Sully is like BballTim defending Rondo.

You seriously believe he wouldn't get snapped up in seconds if he were magically cut?
C'mon man at least be reasonable.
You're a reasonable, well thought out contributor to this blog, but the Sully hate is ridiculous.

[ahonui06]

D-league to the rescue, I wager.

lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

your bias against Sully is like BballTim defending Rondo.

You seriously believe he wouldn't get snapped up in seconds if he were magically cut?
C'mon man at least be reasonable.
You're a reasonable, well thought out contributor to this blog, but the Sully hate is ridiculous.

Definitely. A number of teams would put in a waiver claim to grab Sully. He isn't a bum.

[LarBrd33]

D-league to the rescue, I wager.

lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

your bias against Sully is like BballTim defending Rondo.

You seriously believe he wouldn't get snapped up in seconds if he were magically cut?
C'mon man at least be reasonable.
You're a reasonable, well thought out contributor to this blog, but the Sully hate is ridiculous.

Definitely. A number of teams would put in a waiver claim to grab Sully. He isn't a bum.

Sully was playing really well before his injury and was pretty productive in the 20mpg he got post-injury in the playoffs.  This could be a very important season for him.  He's still only 23  years old and might have a future as a legitimate starting PF in this league.  Will be fun to see what happens with him.

[Beat LA]

D-league to the rescue, I wager.

lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

your bias against Sully is like BballTim defending Rondo.

You seriously believe he wouldn't get snapped up in seconds if he were magically cut?
C'mon man at least be reasonable.
You're a reasonable, well thought out contributor to this blog, but the Sully hate is ridiculous.

Definitely. A number of teams would put in a waiver claim to grab Sully. He isn't a bum.

Sully was playing really well before his injury and was pretty productive in the 20mpg he got post-injury in the playoffs.  This could be a very important season for him.  He's still only 23  years old and might have a future as a legitimate starting PF in this league.  Will be fun to see what happens with him.

He'd be a lot better, imo, if he stopped shooting 3s.  Just take the midrange shot, which is pretty automatic for him, iirc.  That way, his percentages will go up and we can hopefully move him for someone good who doesn't struggle to stay in shape. *facepalm*

[Tr1boy]

D-league to the rescue, I wager.

lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

your bias against Sully is like BballTim defending Rondo.

You seriously believe he wouldn't get snapped up in seconds if he were magically cut?
C'mon man at least be reasonable.
You're a reasonable, well thought out contributor to this blog, but the Sully hate is ridiculous.

Definitely. A number of teams would put in a waiver claim to grab Sully. He isn't a bum.

Sully was playing really well before his injury and was pretty productive in the 20mpg he got post-injury in the playoffs.  This could be a very important season for him.  He's still only 23  years old and might have a future as a legitimate starting PF in this league.  Will be fun to see what happens with him.

He'd be a lot better, imo, if he stopped shooting 3s.  Just take the midrange shot, which is pretty automatic for him, iirc.  That way, his percentages will go up and we can hopefully move him for someone good who doesn't struggle to stay in shape. *facepalm*

I agree. I give him one more year to "milsap" it from the 3./
 Took milsap a while

Sully is in better shape than ever. He finally gets it.  Running is turning into his best friend

[HomerSapien]

Sully was playing really well before his injury and was pretty productive in the 20mpg he got post-injury in the playoffs.  This could be a very important season for him.  He's still only 23  years old and might have a future as a legitimate starting PF in this league.  Will be fun to see what happens with him.

It's a very important season for him.  In personal terms, he has 10's of millions of $$$ at stake. He's also probably one of the 2 or 3 most talented players on the roster so it's in the Celtics best interest for him to keep developing this year as well.  I am still optimistic about his game and hope he comes out of camp at the end of October having earned the starting PF job for the C's as he can be a valuable player for us for a long time.

I think Danny Ainge does have him on a tight leash at this point though. I believe last year's "season ending" stress fracture injury was as much disciplinary as it was health related.  I think it was a wake up call that Sully hopefully answered, but if Jared shows up to camp with conditioning issues this season I don't expect him to be on the opening day roster.  Cutting outright might be a little extreme, but I think the team will ship him out for next to nothing if they still get the impression that he isn't taking his conditioning seriously again.

[greece66]

D-league to the rescue, I wager.

lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

your bias against Sully is like BballTim defending Rondo.

You seriously believe he wouldn't get snapped up in seconds if he were magically cut?
C'mon man at least be reasonable.
You're a reasonable, well thought out contributor to this blog, but the Sully hate is ridiculous.

Definitely. A number of teams would put in a waiver claim to grab Sully. He isn't a bum.

Sully was playing really well before his injury and was pretty productive in the 20mpg he got post-injury in the playoffs.  This could be a very important season for him.  He's still only 23  years old and might have a future as a legitimate starting PF in this league.  Will be fun to see what happens with him.

He is back!!!

[BDeCosta26]

I'm sure it will be a trade, but I think James Young and PJIII would be on the chopping block if we were going to cut someone.

Where is this idea that somehow James Young won't survive camp coming from? Don't mean to single you out, I've seen this said a few times around here lately.

He had a mediocre summer league. It's not the end of the world. He was a youngest dude on our SL team for the 2nd year in a row. You don't trade guys with his physical talents at 19 unless his work ethic is so poor and his attitude so distracting that your better off. People may question his motor, but that sure doesn't seem to be the case with Young.

PJ3, a Turner trade, some kind of two for one, heck I'd wager some TP's it's more likely Sully gets cut than Young. At least if Sully came into camp in terrible shape and clearly wasn't taking it seriously I could see them cutting him if they couldn't trade him. There's just no way that would happen with a 19 year old James Young. At the very least they could trade him for something.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I'm sure it will be a trade, but I think James Young and PJIII would be on the chopping block if we were going to cut someone.

Where is this idea that somehow James Young won't survive camp coming from? Don't mean to single you out, I've seen this said a few times around here lately.

He had a mediocre summer league. It's not the end of the world. He was a youngest dude on our SL team for the 2nd year in a row. You don't trade guys with his physical talents at 19 unless his work ethic is so poor and his attitude so distracting that your better off. People may question his motor, but that sure doesn't seem to be the case with Young.

PJ3, a Turner trade, some kind of two for one, heck I'd wager some TP's it's more likely Sully gets cut than Young. At least if Sully came into camp in terrible shape and clearly wasn't taking it seriously I could see them cutting him if they couldn't trade him. There's just no way that would happen with a 19 year old James Young. At the very least they could trade him for something.

I agree that Young isn't going to be cut but if Sully plays the SAME for the rest of his career he will have a job. We are all speculating but there is no way anyone should believe in a million years Sully would just be cut! That makes no sense! If DA can't trade him (haha yeah right, he could if he wanted to) then we would just keep him.