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Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2015, 01:56:45 AM »

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Like other posters have said, Dragic and PJIII are gone.

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2015, 07:45:26 AM »

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I think they'll keep PJ3 and Turner will probably go in a trade.

Ainge has to decide if he rolls the dice on PJ3 and sees if they've got a keeper or if he keeps Turner around and signs him to a longer bargain deal at the end of this year.

Ultimately, Turner probably isn't being considered as a piece of a potential championship Celtics team, so I think he's likely to go.
I actually said when Turner was signed that it was an upmarket version of us signing Jordan Crawford and then moving him for some 2nd round picks or similar.
Clippers sure could use a cheap deal like Turner to bolster their playoff run. A couple of future 2nd round picks for Turner would be a good move for them.
To toot my own horn, I said that the Clippers should go after Prigioni once the Rockets waived him- and they did :)

Turner would be a good piece next to Reddick/Stephenson as a ball handler with size- he'd be solid against some of those tough 2nd units in the West during the playoffs and could come in for Pierce as small forward or as CP3 as PG.
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Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2015, 03:47:23 PM »

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I think it's PJIII that will just be cut unless he blows them away in training camp.  if he shows he's worth keeping, I could see Danny dumping Turner or maybe Young on a team with cap room for a second rounder just to clear the spot. 

to be fair, Young would have to look absolutely horrid in camp to give up on him already and the rest of the  guards would have to up their ballhandling ability to make Turner that dispensible.

If anything, I think Danny swings a deal to move PJIII for a second rounder.

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2015, 04:04:58 PM »

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Dragic is as good as gone. PJIII is likely the next to go, though if Sully shows up to camp looking like a Christmas ham I could see him being a surprise cut.
are you honestly suggesting that ainge will cut a player who is on a rookie contract and put up per 36 numbers of 17.7 pts/g, 10.1 rbs/g, and 3.1 assists/g?

working out SOME sort of trade would occur first.
lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2015, 04:15:35 PM »

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I think they'll keep PJ3 and Turner will probably go in a trade.

Ainge has to decide if he rolls the dice on PJ3 and sees if they've got a keeper or if he keeps Turner around and signs him to a longer bargain deal at the end of this year.

Ultimately, Turner probably isn't being considered as a piece of a potential championship Celtics team, so I think he's likely to go.
I actually said when Turner was signed that it was an upmarket version of us signing Jordan Crawford and then moving him for some 2nd round picks or similar.
Clippers sure could use a cheap deal like Turner to bolster their playoff run. A couple of future 2nd round picks for Turner would be a good move for them.
To toot my own horn, I said that the Clippers should go after Prigioni once the Rockets waived him- and they did :)

Turner would be a good piece next to Reddick/Stephenson as a ball handler with size- he'd be solid against some of those tough 2nd units in the West during the playoffs and could come in for Pierce as small forward or as CP3 as PG.
I'm probably wearing my green goggles now, but if all we can squeeze out of the Clips for ET's expiring is two picks (probably in the 50s), I say keep him until the All Star Break.

My reasoning is this: ET has no chance of being (or even developing into) a starter for a contender. But what he brings on the table as a role player is quite unique (a ball handler with size and a good mid-range shot).

If the right suitor appears we get a good deal. If not, oh well, we'll just get one second rounder instead of two. (or lose him for nothing in the summer; again, we have picks running out of our ears.)

In the meantime, ET's presence will contribute to our winning record and might help us make a decent appearance in the playoffs.

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2015, 04:37:40 PM »

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Maybe Kevin Durant will tell Ainge if Young or Jones have a better future in the NBA?

I know Young is young but I don't think he should hold a roster spot.
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Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2015, 04:43:41 PM »

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I say Young, PJIII or Turner will be gone.

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2015, 05:07:04 PM »

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I think they'll keep PJ3 and Turner will probably go in a trade.

Ainge has to decide if he rolls the dice on PJ3 and sees if they've got a keeper or if he keeps Turner around and signs him to a longer bargain deal at the end of this year.

Ultimately, Turner probably isn't being considered as a piece of a potential championship Celtics team, so I think he's likely to go.
I actually said when Turner was signed that it was an upmarket version of us signing Jordan Crawford and then moving him for some 2nd round picks or similar.
Clippers sure could use a cheap deal like Turner to bolster their playoff run. A couple of future 2nd round picks for Turner would be a good move for them.
To toot my own horn, I said that the Clippers should go after Prigioni once the Rockets waived him- and they did :)

Turner would be a good piece next to Reddick/Stephenson as a ball handler with size- he'd be solid against some of those tough 2nd units in the West during the playoffs and could come in for Pierce as small forward or as CP3 as PG.

Remember the last time Stephenson and Turner were teammates?

http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2014/04/23/lance-stephenson-evan-turner-fight-indiana-pacers-practice-playoffs

I think the Clippers have enough guys who can play all the positions Turner does. Paul/Redick/Crawford/Stephenson/Rivers/Prigioni/Pierce/Johnson. I don't see where Turner would fit. If anything the Clips need another big.

If there's a team that could use Turner, it'd be the Jazz. He'd fill in reasonably for Exum.

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2015, 05:40:59 PM »

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lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

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NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2015, 06:05:09 PM »

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lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

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NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights
D league won't work because they still count against your roster.  Make no mistake, someone will be gone because the roster needs to get down to 15 one way or the other.

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2015, 06:25:39 PM »

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How about AB & Sully for Kaman, Mike Miller, and Portland's 2016 1st with light protection?

That trade could really turn fortunes around for Portland by adding the scoring punch their crowded frontcourt needs.  Also, Bradley is an ideal fit alongside Lillard, who is a subpar defender.  If they can live with top 3 protection on their upcoming pick, they might improve enough to keep the pick anyway--

Lillard
Bradley/Harkless
Henderson/Aminu
Sully/Davis
Plumblee/Vonleh/Leonard


I like it for the Celts because we add another pick instead of just cutting decent players.  Obviously we would cut Miller & Kaman, but really this is about moving on from players that, while good, are clogging up our rotation at the moment.  At some point we'll have to choose between Sully & Oly and, IMO, this offseason is as good of time as any.  Johnson and Lee should be fantastic for us up front anyways.  As much as I hate to say it, might be addition by subtraction because you'll never have to worry about the 5'9/6'1 backcourt of Avery & Isiaah. 

Thomas    Rozier
Smart      Turner    Hunter  Young
Crowder   Jerebko  PJ3
Johnson   Olynyk
Lee          Zeller     Mickey  Holmes

Leaves some room for Ainge to work with, not to mention giving us potentially four first round picks in the upcoming draft three of which with lotto potential.  That'd be a silly amount of cap space & picks for a 50 win team.




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Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2015, 06:37:09 PM »

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How about AB & Sully for Kaman, Mike Miller, and Portland's 2016 1st with light protection?
Fellow Celtic, why would a tanking team trade their 1st?

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2015, 06:41:44 PM »

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How about AB & Sully for Kaman, Mike Miller, and Portland's 2016 1st with light protection?
Fellow Celtic, why would a tanking team trade their 1st?

well, because Sully is just oozing with potential..             okay you're right. 

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2015, 06:56:44 PM »

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Well if Sully is on a starvation diet he could freakout in a hunger rage and eat another player.  ;D

Re: So what exactly are the options to trim the roster to 15
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2015, 07:04:59 PM »

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lolz cutting Sully is quite an idea.
He'll be picked up by another team in split seconds.

I don't think he would be picked up in seconds.   He is a poor athlete, on a contract year in other cities across the league, he is seen as a guy who let himself get so fat that he incurred a foot injury.   21 GMs passed on him for a reason.   I think Ainge shopped him around near the draft.   There was the twitter incident, where he unfollowed the Celtics for instance.   No one bit on the bait.   Though, I do not think we will cut him.  He deserves a shot to show he did work this offseason and whether it pans out or not.

 I think Ainge waits for a preseason injury and moves some guys to a team who needs them via trade or one of our guys will need "medical treatment".  Or they send a rookie to the DL.

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NBA teams can invite as many as 20 players to training camp, but are allowed just 15 roster spots—only 13 can be active—during the the regular season. The new training camp increase now essentially guarantees 95% of all players invited to camp will have a roster spot within the NBA umbrella.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/22/nba-training-camp-d-league-cuts-roster-rights

I thought it was that Sully started following the Hornets on twitter, not that he unfollowed the Cs?