Can the C's take advantage of the Markieef Morris drama?

[Celtics4ever]

The same board that was ecstatic to acquire a 32 year old who doesn't play defense and has no future here beyond this year and who will take playing time away from guys who might.

Rather have a guy who can stay in shape and play no defense, than one that can't and play no defense.   I think Ainge going after Amir and Lee signals that the tenure of KO and Sully are going to be shorter than expected.   If he was excited about them, why get these guys.   They are going to eat into playing time and both are proven.

Morris turns 26 next month.
Per 36 stats last season - 17.5 pts, 7.1 rebs, 2.7 asts, 1.4 stls, .5 blks.

KO turned 24 this year.
Per 36 stats last season - 16.1 pts, 7.7 rebs, 2.8 asts, 1.6 stls, 1 blk.

Trouble is with these stats is that KO can't play 36 MPG.  He gets into foul trouble and no way would we use him this much.  You should use their actual production because they is what they actually produce, not a projection of what they could theoretically produce.  Morris played 31 MPG last year.  KO played 22.   A guy is fresher playing 22 but would not be if they played the full 36.  KO would foul out prior to the 36 minutes as he is projected at 5.4, this too, is not taken into account as people are not as effective with more fouls on them as they have to be careful.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morrima02.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/olynyke01.html


Do you really think KO averages those numbers in the loaded Western Conference?   Nope.   But Morris could theoretically average more in the weak east.

That being said, I am not overly fond of Morris.  I be all for getting rid of Sully and ET for him as I think he has more value in a trade than either of those guys as we found out this off season.   He is a better fit for CBS system than Sully.   But I think you have to roll the dice and see what you have in Sully.   I still think he will be slow and ponderous, that is his DNA.   The real question will be whether he tries more on D, and has more energy when he plays.  If he does he could be almost equal to Morris, except in shooting and a superior rebounder.    Morris is not a very good leaper either but he is a little faster than Jared.    I would be more interested if I could get Tristan Thompson than Morris.

[MBunge]

Trouble is with these stats is that KO can't play 36 MPG.  He gets into foul trouble and no way would we use him this much.  You should use their actual production because they is what they actually produce, not a projection of what they could theoretically produce.  Morris played 31 MPG last year.  KO played 22.   A guy is fresher playing 22 but would not be if they played the full 36.  KO would foul out prior to the 36 minutes as he is projected at 5.4, this too, is not taken into account as people are not as effective with more fouls on them as they have to be careful.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morrima02.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/olynyke01.html


Do you really think KO averages those numbers in the loaded Western Conference?   Nope.   But Morris could theoretically average more in the weak east.

In his second year in the league, KO was 23 and averaged 22.2 minutes and 3.3 fouls a game.

In his second year in the league, Morris was 23 and averaged 22.4 minutes and 2.5 fouls a game.

And Morris' stats his second year weren't really any better than KO's.

Mike

[Celtics18]

Trouble is with these stats is that KO can't play 36 MPG.  He gets into foul trouble and no way would we use him this much.  You should use their actual production because they is what they actually produce, not a projection of what they could theoretically produce.  Morris played 31 MPG last year.  KO played 22.   A guy is fresher playing 22 but would not be if they played the full 36.  KO would foul out prior to the 36 minutes as he is projected at 5.4, this too, is not taken into account as people are not as effective with more fouls on them as they have to be careful.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morrima02.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/olynyke01.html


Do you really think KO averages those numbers in the loaded Western Conference?   Nope.   But Morris could theoretically average more in the weak east.

In his second year in the league, KO was 23 and averaged 22.2 minutes and 3.3 fouls a game.

In his second year in the league, Morris was 23 and averaged 22.4 minutes and 2.5 fouls a game.

And Morris' stats his second year weren't really any better than KO's.

Mike

It seems fair to say that Kelly's second year stats were objectively considerably better than Markieff Morris' for their second years.

It should be noted that Markieff was only about four months younger than Olynyk was upon entering the league.

They are both "old" for their respective draft classes. 

Edit:

You already noted that, I just re-iterated it.