Celtics Rank 4th in Top Young Cores

[Smitty77]

Doolittle did a nice write-up about the top young cores in the NBA according to the WARP.

http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/13284788/nba-ranking-young-cores-nba

He defines young players as anyone on the roster who won't be 26 by the end of next season, or 25 and younger.

The Bucks were first, but I think they probably moved into the lead with the signing of Monroe.
The Pelicans were second, completely carried by Davis.
The Jazz were third. They have drafted and developed a lot of young talent all over the first round over the past few years.
We were fourth, largely because of the sheer amount of young depth that we have at each position.

We were also ahead of Philly (5th), even though we have been in a rebuild as long as they have.

We were also ahead of the Blazers, even though they have a "superstar" and a lot of young prospects like us.

We were also ahead of the Magic and Pistons, even though most NBA fans generally believe they have a better young core than we do.

Could you please tell me where the Hornets are on this list??

Thanks,

Smitty77

Second.

You mean New Orleans, right?

No, Charlotte.

Smitty77

[littleteapot]

I'd take one Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, Kawhi Leonard, Andre Drummond, etc. over every single player on the Celtics.  Heck Wiggins, Towns, Rubio, Lavine, etc. is an incredible young core.  You see this is the problem with the methodology chosen.  Quantity outranks quality and just can't do that in the NBA.

OK this is taking it too far. Every young guy on our team for Zach Lavine or Kawhi Leonard? Are you kidding me?

It's better to have a dollar than 4 quarters in the NBA. But 4 quarters are better than a slightly shinier quarter.

um, reading comprehension is required to respond to posts.

Oh it is? I might have to find a new forum...

I misunderstood what you were saying about Minny and actually agree with you. But my point still stands with Kawhi Leonard and Drummond. They aren't superstar talents. They are extremely good players who have more potential than any player on our team. However they aren't guys that you want to tear your whole team down to build around.

[PhoSita]

I don't think it's not being anti-homer

[D.o.s.]

This is not my best thread. Don't post distracted.

[Celtics18]

It gets dreadfully tiresome reading comments about how anyone who ever posts an optimistic or hopeful thought about our Celtics is some kind of ignorant, naive boob who is guaranteeing that "Marcus Smart is destined for the Hall of Fame and that every other player on our team is going to be a multi-time All Star."

No one says that, but it becomes kind of difficult sometimes to ever post a positive observation about a current Celtic without being accused of calling that player the next Bill Russell or Larry Bird.

"But, we just want to crush any glimmer of hope, any positive spark that you see on your favorite basketball team with our realism.  It's all in your best interest, mind you.  We are just trying to stop you from jumping off a bridge when your Celtics haven't won the title by 2017."

Oh, then, thanks fellas. 

[D.o.s.]

I mean when you're telling someone that it's unrealistic to think that David Lee is going to lose out on playing time to Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk... it's akin to watching a child find out that Santa Claus isn't real. You can't control the child's reaction to what is a fairly uncontroversial thing overall.

[PhoSita]

[Celtics18]

I mean when you're telling someone that it's unrealistic to think that David Lee is going to lose out on playing time to Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk... it's akin to watching a child find out that Santa Claus isn't real. You can't control the child's reaction to what is a fairly uncontroversial thing overall.

Maybe I'll end up being wrong on that one. 

I still think that Olynyk and Sully will get their minutes if they are both still here. 

[Celtics18]

You two are so cute. 

One calls me a child, the other implies that I lack a brain.

All for having the audacity to question your infinitely wise realism.

Very cute, indeed. 

[D.o.s.]

Pho and I both post positive observations on current Celtics players. We have both done it for former Celtics players, too.

One thing neither of us do: lament the fact that people deign to disagree with us. Another thing: using hyperbole (and italics) in an attempt to inoculate our positions from critique.

[PhoSita]

You two are so cute. 

One calls me a child, the other implies that I lack a brain.

I am sure that you have a brain, and you've been posting here too long to be a child.

What this exchange demonstrates, though, is that you are very willing to read the worst into what other people post.


For what it's worth, the scarecrow I posted was meant to refer to the straw man argument you used a few posts back.  I apologize for not being clearer.


Anyway, I try to be positive when I feel it's appropriate given the conversation.  If things were generally more negative around here, I think I'd often find myself taking the positive tack.

It seems like you have a tendency to see only the negative things that others post and take exception to those.


Example -- Marcus Smart

Some people talk about him as if he's going to be the next Celtics star.

Some people say he's just a defensive role player, or even worse, that he's Marcus Banks 2.0.

I'd argue against both positions, but chances are I'd only get a response from you regarding the former.

[Celtics18]

Pho and I both post positive observations on current Celtics players. We have both done it for former Celtics players, too.

One thing neither of us do: lament the fact that people deign to disagree with us. Another thing: using hyperbole (and italics) in an attempt to inoculate our positions from critique.

You don't think comparing my position on the Celtics upcoming big man rotation to believing in Santa was hyperbole?

[D Dub]

One thing neither of us do: lament the fact that people deign to disagree with us. Another thing: using hyperbole (and italics) in an attempt to inoculate our positions from critique.

and why would you when your analogy and emoji skills are so strong?   

[Celtics18]

Pho and I both post positive observations on current Celtics players. We have both done it for former Celtics players, too.

One thing neither of us do: lament the fact that people deign to disagree with us. Another thing: using hyperbole (and italics) in an attempt to inoculate our positions from critique.

You may not lament it, you just like to ridicule it. 

To each his own. 

[PhoSita]

One thing neither of us do: lament the fact that people deign to disagree with us. Another thing: using hyperbole (and italics) in an attempt to inoculate our positions from critique.

and why would you when your analogy and emoji skills are so strong?

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