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Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2015, 04:32:04 PM »

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Mickey obviously is making the team.

How mad will you be if he doesn't?


To answer the OP question -- they'll all go eventually.  Don't be surprised if the only one of them left three years from now is Smart.

I wont be mad bc it wont happen.

Mickey is ahead of pj3. Mickey contract/long term asset wise is ahead of Lee
keep that dream alive Triboy  ;D

What dream?

Its reality my friend

You really think pj3 is ahead?  Danny got him at a junkyard sale.  I hope he plays well though

Same goes for Lee. If anybody was sure he could do 18/9 or near it, it would take more than Gerald Wallace to grab him.

We will see who is still in Boston in 2-3 years.

What reality? Has Mickey played a game in the NBA yet?

And we got Lee for nothing because he's overpaid and didn't fit with the Warriors style, not because he's not good anymore. Not to mention Lee proved he clearly has some game left in the finals when the Warriors called his name.

Mickey has yet to actually prove anything outside of he can play with d-leaguers. Jones hasn't done much more but Mickey has proven nada.
just messing with you Triboy (because it's fun) but there's some valid points above.  Mickey's looked decent in summer league but not world class.  he's shown he's definitely worth a look in training camp and may be of interest to another team for a minor deal like a future first or as part of a larger deal to get a real center or SF that we need.  Also, he hasn't played against NBA-level competition yet but PJIII has. 

I think Mickey sticks with the team but even if he does, I seriously doubt he sees any court time this season with a minimum of Lee, Zeller, Sully, KO, Amir and Jerebko all in front of him -- nevermind PJIII.  A significant trade will have to happen where at least 2 of these players are moved, no other bigs come in and even with 2 of those players gone, Mickey is still #6 on the depth chart.

I believe Jones will be waived because of what the doctors said about him (I read an article from 3 years ago). Apparently, his knees has a 3 to 4 years life span. I don't know if there was another medical check up more recently but that could explain why OKC had to pay to get rid of him.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2015, 04:33:01 PM »

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I think Babb is part of the Lee Deal.   Young will go the D league, he deserves it after a weak summer league.   Mickey, might stick.   Hunter and Rozier may even go to the D-League but Hunter can shoot and Rozier will take Pressey's spot.

I still think a deal is coming in regards to some of our guys.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2015, 05:34:41 PM »

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Hopefully DA is waiting for the smoke to clear, so other GM's can see what their teams really look like, and what they may need.

The problem is, the longer you "need" to make a trade in the NBA the less you may receive, because you need the trade, and everyone knows it.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2015, 05:45:39 PM »

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Hopefully DA is waiting for the smoke to clear, so other GM's can see what their teams really look like, and what they may need.

The problem is, the longer you "need" to make a trade in the NBA the less you may receive, because you need the trade, and everyone knows it.

I actually think our position has improved slightly.  A couple weeks back when Cousins was being courted, LA was widely considered the main team that could best our offer. 

Since then, both BKL and DAL have taken steps back.  What once looked like a couple of late firsts, could very well be two lotto picks. 

And in LA, now that we've seen Russell get out-played in summer league -- how can any GM justify trading an all star for him?  His bust potential is through the roof now. 

Boy what a difference a couple of weeks can make. 

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2015, 06:09:03 PM »

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Hopefully DA is waiting for the smoke to clear, so other GM's can see what their teams really look like, and what they may need.

The problem is, the longer you "need" to make a trade in the NBA the less you may receive, because you need the trade, and everyone knows it.

I actually think our position has improved slightly.  A couple weeks back when Cousins was being courted, LA was widely considered the main team that could best our offer. 

Since then, both BKL and DAL have taken steps back. What once looked like a couple of late firsts, could very well be two lotto picks.

And in LA, now that we've seen Russell get out-played in summer league -- how can any GM justify trading an all star for him?  His bust potential is through the roof now. 

Boy what a difference a couple of weeks can make.

Late firsts? Who thought Brooklyn and Dallas were going to be contenders this season? Even with D-Will on the Nets and DJ on the Mavs, I didn't think those picks would go any higher than the mid 1st round to the late teens/early 20s.

Im going to repeat my sentiment earlier. Summer league means nothing. The real test begins on opening night.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2015, 06:35:14 PM »

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If there's no trade to be made, I'b bet that Mickey or Young wind up in the d-league. Of the two, I think Mickey is the more likely candidate since he's a rookie and there has to be a sink-or-swin moment with Young coming up.
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Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2015, 06:40:58 PM »

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Russell is not even CLOSE to a bust yet.  I'd trade Hunter for him and I am a huge RJ Hunter guy (I wanted the Celtics to trade up for him).  Russell's value is still almost exactly what it was on draft night.

As for roster cuts, I think we go into training camp with 16, possibly 17 if we give Holmes some money to keep him from signing with another team before camp.

I think the tiering of likely chops goes as follows:

1) Perry Jones
- Unless he really lights the world on fire my guess is he is the casualty.  Thanks for bringing a pick as a housewarming gift though, Perry.

2a) Sully
2b) Olynyk

- If the C's want to keep Holmes I think one of these two get dumped even if its only for a 2nd rounder.  With Lee, Johnson, Jerebko, and Holmes there would be plenty of redundancy in for Sully/KO's skill set to be replaced.  In fact, I think Holmes is a bit of Sully insurance.  If he shows up to camp fat i think he's the guy who gets traded, or he might just get outright cut.

3) James Young
- Since he is so young, and can play a position we have less depth at i think James gets another year in green at least.  However, if he still looks completely lost in camp, and PJIII and Holmes are blowing up, I could see the C's possibly stepping away from James already.  I doubt it happens, but it is not an impossibility.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2015, 07:14:39 PM »

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If there's no trade to be made, I'b bet that Mickey or Young wind up in the d-league. Of the two, I think Mickey is the more likely candidate since he's a rookie and there has to be a sink-or-swin moment with Young coming up.

The thing is even if either are down in the D league they will count toward the NBA roster if on an NBA contract.

It may come down to Jones if he shows something in camp verses Mickey. Mickey could end up overseas so we don't lose an asset, and we already have a surplus of bigs.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2015, 07:16:23 PM »

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If there's no trade to be made, I'b bet that Mickey or Young wind up in the d-league. Of the two, I think Mickey is the more likely candidate since he's a rookie and there has to be a sink-or-swin moment with Young coming up.

The thing is even if either are down in the D league they will count toward the NBA roster if on an NBA contract.

It may come down to Jones if he shows something in camp verses Mickey. Mickey could end up overseas so we don't lose an asset, and we already have a surplus of bigs.

0% chance Mickey isn't part of our roster unless traded, count on it.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2015, 07:22:26 PM »

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If there's no trade to be made, I'b bet that Mickey or Young wind up in the d-league. Of the two, I think Mickey is the more likely candidate since he's a rookie and there has to be a sink-or-swin moment with Young coming up.

The thing is even if either are down in the D league they will count toward the NBA roster if on an NBA contract.

It may come down to Jones if he shows something in camp verses Mickey. Mickey could end up overseas so we don't lose an asset, and we already have a surplus of bigs.

0% chance Mickey isn't part of our roster unless traded, count on it.

This, the question with Mickey is what will his contract be, not will he sign with the Cs.
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Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2015, 07:29:58 PM »

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Hopefully DA is waiting for the smoke to clear, so other GM's can see what their teams really look like, and what they may need.

The problem is, the longer you "need" to make a trade in the NBA the less you may receive, because you need the trade, and everyone knows it.

I actually think our position has improved slightly.  A couple weeks back when Cousins was being courted, LA was widely considered the main team that could best our offer. 

Since then, both BKL and DAL have taken steps back. What once looked like a couple of late firsts, could very well be two lotto picks.

And in LA, now that we've seen Russell get out-played in summer league -- how can any GM justify trading an all star for him?  His bust potential is through the roof now. 

Boy what a difference a couple of weeks can make.

Late firsts? Who thought Brooklyn and Dallas were going to be contenders this season? Even with D-Will on the Nets and DJ on the Mavs, I didn't think those picks would go any higher than the mid 1st round to the late teens/early 20s.

Im going to repeat my sentiment earlier. Summer league means nothing. The real test begins on opening night.

At the time of the Brooklyn trade a fair number of people here were calling those BKN picks likely late first rounders.

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2015, 07:47:27 PM »

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If there's no trade to be made, I'b bet that Mickey or Young wind up in the d-league. Of the two, I think Mickey is the more likely candidate since he's a rookie and there has to be a sink-or-swin moment with Young coming up.

The thing is even if either are down in the D league they will count toward the NBA roster if on an NBA contract.

It may come down to Jones if he shows something in camp verses Mickey. Mickey could end up overseas so we don't lose an asset, and we already have a surplus of bigs.

0% chance Mickey isn't part of our roster unless traded, count on it.

This, the question with Mickey is what will his contract be, not will he sign with the Cs.
Why so much confidence for an under-sized 2nd round pick who played pretty well in meaningless summer league games?
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Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2015, 07:50:11 PM »

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Young and Bab

Maybe fat Sully ...if he don't impress the bosses the first half of season

Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2015, 07:55:25 PM »

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Young will never be a starter or a 2nd unit guy

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Re: Who Goes?
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2015, 08:06:38 PM »

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If there's no trade to be made, I'b bet that Mickey or Young wind up in the d-league. Of the two, I think Mickey is the more likely candidate since he's a rookie and there has to be a sink-or-swin moment with Young coming up.

The thing is even if either are down in the D league they will count toward the NBA roster if on an NBA contract.

It may come down to Jones if he shows something in camp verses Mickey. Mickey could end up overseas so we don't lose an asset, and we already have a surplus of bigs.

0% chance Mickey isn't part of our roster unless traded, count on it.

This, the question with Mickey is what will his contract be, not will he sign with the Cs.
Why so much confidence for an under-sized 2nd round pick who played pretty well in meaningless summer league games?

yup. That is leading the SL in block shots.   Avg a near double double  in Vegas

I thought people like you stated he was going to fail from day 1.