C's still have $4.8 million of cap space left

[ahonui06]

The next step must be dealing Olynyk or Sullinger to open minutes for an incoming player. Seems logical at this point in time.

[tenn_smoothie]

The next step must be dealing Olynyk or Sullinger to open minutes for an incoming player. Seems logical at this point in time.

And remember how excited everyone was about Sullinger and Olynyk when they were rookies and how they would help win future titles ......................

My question is - why do we need to spend the $5/$6 million at all ?

Just to add more mid-level talent to a team already log-jammed with such players to begin with ? Making moves just to say you are doing your job is destructive and is one of Danny's worst habits. Last year's group got better after the roster stabilized.

[saltlover]

The next step must be dealing Olynyk or Sullinger to open minutes for an incoming player. Seems logical at this point in time.

And remember how excited everyone was about Sullinger and Olynyk when they were rookies and how they would help win future titles ......................

My question is - why do we need to spend the $5/$6 million at all ?

Just to add more mid-level talent to a team already log-jammed with such players to begin with ? Making moves just to say you are doing your job is destructive and is one of Danny's worst habits. Last year's group got better after the roster stabilized.

There's no need to spend it.  But it's a resource, and if the owners let him spend it and he doesn't, it's an unused resource.  Maybe it's just to acquire some players that will be released to get an extra draft pick or two.  There's nothing wrong with that, since in the future we might be in the opposite situation, and then we'll have the pick already to ship out.

[GryphMinuteMan]

It seems like there has to be something big. Ok maybe not big like a star but big as in multiple players.

It's been discussed but I'd really like to see Ainge expand the Lee trade to include the Knicks. Send Lee to NY and whomever Phil wants out of Turner, Sully, Young, and KO and of course some picks. I realize a main problem with this (besides that Phil might really just want to keep Melo) is that the Knicks don't own their own pick next summer. My hope is that this won't matter. If for whatever reason Phil doesn't want Melo, he might think its no big deal to trade him because he will have money to spend on free agents and someone else will want to play for him because he is such a legend.

If Phil does look to trade Melo I would find it highly unlikely he trades him here. Phil doesn't like Boston and we're in the same division. My guess is that he wouldn't take the chance that Melo excels here and makes the team a contender.

[Celtics4ever]

And remember how excited everyone was about Sullinger and Olynyk when they were rookies and how they would help win future titles ......................

Only people who didn't watch NCAAs thought this really.   I know they were both limited athletically but skilled players.

[hpantazo]

Why not go the other way with NY and deal David Lee and Bradley to them along with a pick for Porzingis and whatever is needed to make salaries work?

[saltlover]

Why not go the other way with NY and deal David Lee and Bradley to them along with a pick for Porzingis and whatever is needed to make salaries work?

Because unless the Knicks trade Carmelo, they don't have salaries that work.  They have $11 million of salaries they can currently trade aside from Anthony, since the rest of their payroll is tied up in newly signed players.  Also, I don't think they'd value either Lee or Bradley enough to be willing to trade Porzingis.

To further prove the point, since they had cap room, if they wanted Lee, they could have gotten him for free.  Heck, they could have gotten at least a second round pick if they didn't send any salary back.

[notbillsimmons]

They can sign me, for 2 mill

[sawick48]

Don't want Gallo not a good enough defender and low fg%

Add to that he's chronically injured.

yes to all of this. why is everyone so quick to think adding gallo would be a good thing?  he's not a stretch 4.  and maybe even worse, he's an inefficient wing.  if this were the early 90s he's probably considered a top young player in the league but with all the stats and advance stat knowledge we all have, anyone can see he isn't worth the money he'd need to stick around.

unless you all think we'd sink lower by playing him, then im all for it

[sawick48]

It seems like there has to be something big. Ok maybe not big like a star but big as in multiple players.

It's been discussed but I'd really like to see Ainge expand the Lee trade to include the Knicks. Send Lee to NY and whomever Phil wants out of Turner, Sully, Young, and KO and of course some picks. I realize a main problem with this (besides that Phil might really just want to keep Melo) is that the Knicks don't own their own pick next summer. My hope is that this won't matter. If for whatever reason Phil doesn't want Melo, he might think its no big deal to trade him because he will have money to spend on free agents and someone else will want to play for him because he is such a legend.

If Phil does look to trade Melo I would find it highly unlikely he trades him here. Phil doesn't like Boston and we're in the same division. My guess is that he wouldn't take the chance that Melo excels here and makes the team a contender.

HATES* DESPISES* WISHES WE WERE DEAD*....you mis-spelled all those words as 'doesn't like'

[Robb]

The next step must be dealing Olynyk or Sullinger to open minutes for an incoming player. Seems logical at this point in time.

My question is - why do we need to spend the $5/$6 million at all ?

Just to add more mid-level talent to a team already log-jammed with such players to begin with ? Making moves just to say you are doing your job is destructive and is one of Danny's worst habits. Last year's group got better after the roster stabilized.

Because once the trades and signings are completed, the team won't have as much flexibility or room to do hardly anything else save resign the rookies. Once Danny goes over the cap he will want to be as far over it as possible and as close to the luxury tax as he can be without going over it. They have a huge expiring in Lee, and two huge non-guaranteeds with Johnson and Jerebko, and the cap will go up a ton next offseason so they'll have a lot of flexibility. But if right now they can spend the rest of the money and upgrade the roster they should because they won't have another chance once they do all of the other things they have planned this offseason.

[sawick48]

while we're here, i understand collecting assets and i know that's where we are as a team, but we're at our limit.  i HIGHLY doubt we make that big trade for a name prior to the season starting so we can only carry 15 players into the season as is, and of those, AT MOST what? maybe 11? guys, get playing time in a game.  guys aren't assets if they aren't playing (see Perry Jones) so the only tradeable pieces we have that carry value are the guys that actually get on the court for us.  already as i see it this is where we are (under the assumption that Thorton doesn't sign):

backcourt: Smart, Bradley, IT2, Young, Rozier

wings: Turner, Crawford, Hunter, Jonas

bigs: Sullinger, Amir, Zeller, Kelly O, Lee, Mickey

that's 15 bodies already.  and it isn't even counting Perry Jones III, Chris Babb, Holmes

i get the idea of "asset collection" but we can only keep so many guys, nevermind actually playing them.  i think (hope) DA is done obtaining new guys, save of course for a big move that brings in a big name to start the next phase of this rebuild

[SHAQATTACK]

I need a job


I'll work for half that....


Making sure Sully goes into the gym and not Poppa Johns

[LooseCannon]

Don't want Gallo not a good enough defender and low fg%

Add to that he's chronically injured.

yes to all of this. why is everyone so quick to think adding gallo would be a good thing?  he's not a stretch 4.  and maybe even worse, he's an inefficient wing.  if this were the early 90s he's probably considered a top young player in the league but with all the stats and advance stat knowledge we all have, anyone can see he isn't worth the money he'd need to stick around.

unless you all think we'd sink lower by playing him, then im all for it

Gallinari isn't an inefficient wing.  Someone like DeMar DeRozan would be an example of an inefficient wing.

[Big333223]

The best thing to do with the cap space would be to trade 2-3 of our guys for an expensive singular talent. We don't even have to do that during the summer. We can just hold onto the space until mid-season and take a look at the landscape. I like the patience Ainge has shown so far in not reaching for guys that aren't actually going to make a difference.